Heroin/Opioid Thread - Serious Discussion Only

[Miss Hollywood]

Drug Wench- Thanks for the great advice babe Yeah, I was feelin sorry for myself after my diagnosis but as each day goes on I'm feeling better and more optimistic. They are still running a bunch of tests on me, because they think there is also something else that might be wrong with me. They are now having me piss in a jug for the next 24 hours for them to test. So, I hope everything turns out ok with that.

I'm getting a tiny bit less yellow (jaundiced) everyday which is a good sign. The nausea is starting to get a lil better too! Maybe my body can fight this off on its own after all! Treatment isn't something I really want to have to go through...it's really scary for me. But I hope everything turns out alright!

I hope you are doing better girl! And I'm glad your back around, we all missed ya! Love ya to pieces! You are such a sweetheart!


Hollywood

 

[Miss Hollywood]

for me I always wanted to quit while I was high and Fuck quiting when I was sick. Messed up thinking

This is actually more common than you think, man. You're not alone. *hugs*

 

[Georgie25]

Drug Wench- Thanks for the great advice babe Yeah, I was feelin sorry for myself after my diagnosis but as each day goes on I'm feeling better and more optimistic. They are still running a bunch of tests on me, because they think there is also something else that might be wrong with me. They are now having me piss in a jug for the next 24 hours for them to test. So, I hope everything turns out ok with that.

I'm getting a tiny bit less yellow (jaundiced) everyday which is a good sign. The nausea is starting to get a lil better too! Maybe my body can fight this off on its own after all! Treatment isn't something I really want to have to go through...it's really scary for me. But I hope everything turns out alright!

I hope you are doing better girl! And I'm glad your back around, we all missed ya! Love ya to pieces! You are such a sweetheart!


Hollywood

Glad you're copeing well at least with it. If you don't mind me asking, how do you think you got Hep C in the first place?

 

[Miss Hollywood]

Glad you're copeing well at least with it. If you don't mind me asking, how do you think you got Hep C in the first place?

I'm a recovering heroin addict...I got it from sharing needles. That's how most people get it.

Bleach apparently doesn't kill Hepatitis...just HIV. But I'd rather have this than the other, ya know?

It still sucks ass tho. But, all I can do is deal with it.

How you been doin man?

 

[will66]

This is actually more common than you think, man. You're not alone. *hugs*

thanks glad to know With the Hep C, my brother has it and I have shared rigs with him. I know its messed up to say but I am scared as hell to get tested but I think I have it. Now I am afraid to have a relationship with a girl. Does having it really affect one's life. So much to deal with on top of trying to stay clean....

 

[Georgie25]

I'm a recovering heroin addict...I got it from sharing needles. That's how most people get it.

Bleach apparently doesn't kill Hepatitis...just HIV. But I'd rather have this than the other, ya know?

It still sucks ass tho. But, all I can do is deal with it.

How you been doin man?

Aww, damn. Yeah at least you don't have AIDS.

I been doing good then getting some clean time under my belt with the help of suboxone then end up getting large sums of money and going on long binges and blowing it all all over again and again...I dont even see money as money I see it as how many bags of dope i can buy now...sigh. And i barely even get high nemore, I just use to take the sick away..

But yeah I actually smoked some weed for the first time in like 6 months tonight and am feeling pretty good and am not sure i can make much sense right now lol.

On dope I always said weed sucks compared to this! Im never smoking again! Maybe by smoking I can get this addictive life destroying drug out of my life easier (w/ the help of subs for the detox)!

 

[Carl Landrover]

If I ever say anything about doing better, just stop me. Anytime I say I'm doing good, I just mess up shortly after. It's like if I put any recognition into doing good I end up just going out and sabotaging it.

What does that mean? Means I bought heroin. Oh well, I'll just try to not let this relapse bring me down and try not to buy anymore. There are final hits and there are final hits. Which will this be?


I was feeling better sober, never should have gotten that coke Friday night. I don't move on emotionally on opiates. The same problems contine to plague me and I can't move on in my head. I don't develop. I know I need sobriety and I know it's better for me, but I can't seem to go more than a few days without suboxone or now dope.

I hope to be strong one day. For today, one step backwards.

I'm sorry everyone.

 

[paranoid android]

When i look back on all the shit i did im damn lucky i never caught hep c or worse HIV. Ive never shared needles or even shot up though ive had plenty loaded rigs put in front of me. Ive shared crack pipes made outta cans with people and thankfully i never used a glass one with someone. I don't think ive ever shared a straw for snorting gear with anyone either and back in the day i prefered rocking up to snorting anyway.

During my alcoholic black out years where id take any powder or pill put in front of me id pretty much shag everything in sight. Thankfully i always used a condom to the best of my knowledge.

How ive made it this far and still be alive and much less healthy is a major fucking mistery to me. Sometimes i think there really is someone watching out for me (though i don't believe in god) or maybe it's the luck of the irish . Though most of my friends where irish and they wherent too lucky .

Though sometimes im a total miserable twat who would like nothing more then to have no reason to live overall im very greatful that im still alive. As far as im concerned ive beaten the odds on that and most people thought i would be dead or doing serious time by now. But no im alive and breathing fresh air. For that im happy. Atleast today .

To all those still struggling hang in there. What doesent kill you makes you a fuck of alot stronger. Thats one thing ive learned over the years if nothing else.

 

[theartofwar]

I bought the most fucked up bags of my life the other day - the rush was great and then I felt like I had a 10 ton weight on my chest for like 12 hours after - I'm glad I didn't go under but it was a massive reminder that people will risk your ass to cut a few corners and make money - be safe guys

 

[Carl Landrover]

I really hope this was last relapse.

Even doing a few bags makes my breathing HORRIBLE!


I can't breathe through my nose, and everytime I inhale it sounds filtered. Every exhale comes with this annoying wheeze noise. 8) I sound like an 80 year old man with lung problems. I feel out of breath and I'm just sitting. When I actually have to do something that would make me a little out of breath or breathe harder, it gets me soo winded and it's so uncomfortable.

Once this bit of dope wears down, I get to look forward to a few intense days of coughing up chunks of mucus/sputum.

I really hope this was the last time. I don't know how many more times I can do this to myself. This wheezing noise!!!!

 

[xxkcxx]

^ Hey Carl. Sorry to hear you are feeling so sick and I really wish you the best of luck.

I don't know if you saw but I've been clean 7 months now, so it can be done.

Also, some people in OD social were looking to see what had become of you earlier today. Idk if you want to pop by and say hi or something.

 

[Georgie25]

On day 3 right now. Been taking around 4mg of subs when I wake up and am able to go to work and function fine. I'm hoping this time will be different. I don't have any money until friday when I get my check so using isn't even an option if I wanted to. But I want to stay clean for myself this time so Im hoping it works.

 

[Carl Landrover]

^ Hey Carl. Sorry to hear you are feeling so sick and I really wish you the best of luck.

I don't know if you saw but I've been clean 7 months now, so it can be done.

Also, some people in OD social were looking to see what had become of you earlier today. Idk if you want to pop by and say hi or something.

Wow that's awesome KC! Congratulations on that!!! Big change from some of your posts a whiles back. Great to hear you're doing well! How's everything else been going?

I haven't had that long away in a looong time. I really want this to be my last time though. I've had a bunch of days with no dope and no suboxone lately so that's a start, but I keep slipping with hard drugs in general.

I know you'd be able to relate with how my lungs are feeling now. Only thing that helps is my inhaler and I only have a few puffs left. Hope I can get a refill without having to go to the doctor.


Thanks for the head up on the social board. Feels pretty good when people remember you, since I usually feel like I don't make a memorable impression.

 

[xxkcxx]

Thanks I've never had this long either. I went to a 30 day treatment and then did almost 6 months in a recovery home that was very strict. I just moved home, but I'm still going to meetings (AA) and working the steps with my sponsor.

I know it all seems really lame, but it's helping me so I don't really care what other people think.

I will tell you that it wasn't easy and I really don't think I could have done it without being in a structured environment because for the first roughly 4 months, all I thought about was going to get high. Then, after the 4 month mark, everything got easier. I sill think about dope in passing, but it's not the same as it used to be where I wanted to jump out of my skin.

Everything is just going to well--my parents are happy, my PO is happy, and I'm happy. I actually was rereading some posts from pre-rehab, and I can't believe how depressed I was about the most insignificant things. It is really the dope that does that. I know that know. If anything I know I am serious this time because I am very afraid of the idea of relapse, not excited.

So yeah, I guess I'm doing well :D

 

[TippyCup4Life]

Does anyone know anything about gallbladder attacks and opiates.
I have a feeling that my lil' pod problem may have finally run up against it's wall.
I've kept it pretty damn minimum(2-3 powderized once a day) and been slowly weaning, but given that I've just had my third attack I'm afraid that it seems my jump off may have to come more quickly than I'd hoped.
I have not yet seen a Dr., but have scheduled and appt. to come in a couple days.
I'm not positive about gallbladder attack 100%, but I have all the exact symptoms.
Chronic constipation may be to blame I fear.
I've read that slow digestion allows estrogen and testosterone to reformulate after the liver destroys it, throwing off the balance needed by these delicate organs. I've also been somewhat regularly taking mineral oil for quite a while now, though I've stopped the past week.
Whatever, i've clearly messed up my natural balance, and the piper always demands you pay in whatever way he can.
I'm also faced with probably having to tell the Dr. the truth as well....very hard for me to do...
I've never heard of this connection, but it makes sense.
Does this ring a bell with anyone?
Mods, feel free to move to the pod thread. I just felt like there may be more experience here.

 

[panic in paradise]

here is some opiate & gallbladder interaction info.

These results show that opiates can cause presynaptic inhibition of excitatory neurotransmission at 2 sites within the wall of the gallbladder: vagal preganglionic terminals in ganglia and neuromuscular nerve terminals. These findings support the concept that opiates can contribute to gallbladder stasis by inhibiting ganglionic activity and neurogenic contractions.

Source:
Revue / Journal Title
Gastroenterology ISSN 0016-5085 CODEN GASTAB

i couldnt find much else except for info about Cholecystitis and most of what i did find was random physiology abstracts in med terms... if you want to keep a trusting relationship with your doctor which is a goood idea, be honest, say you made some light tea a few times with pods, and why.

i hope you get some good news, or some solid factual news like a diagnosis and a treatment plan, dont leave until you feel like you have some answers, another appointment or a referral to a specialist. write a list up and take that, i forget little details sometimes and they can turn out to be large indicators, because they are unique, they often are the best clue to whats really goin on.

 

[theartofwar]

Does anyone know anything about gallbladder attacks and opiates.
I have a feeling that my lil' pod problem may have finally run up against it's wall.
I've kept it pretty damn minimum(2-3 powderized once a day) and been slowly weaning, but given that I've just had my third attack I'm afraid that it seems my jump off may have to come more quickly than I'd hoped.
I have not yet seen a Dr., but have scheduled and appt. to come in a couple days.
I'm not positive about gallbladder attack 100%, but I have all the exact symptoms.
Chronic constipation may be to blame I fear.
I've read that slow digestion allows estrogen and testosterone to reformulate after the liver destroys it, throwing off the balance needed by these delicate organs. I've also been somewhat regularly taking mineral oil for quite a while now, though I've stopped the past week.
Whatever, i've clearly messed up my natural balance, and the piper always demands you pay in whatever way he can.
I'm also faced with probably having to tell the Dr. the truth as well....very hard for me to do...
I've never heard of this connection, but it makes sense.
Does this ring a bell with anyone?
Mods, feel free to move to the pod thread. I just felt like there may be more experience here.

hey bud - I've had to get laxative scripted when I've been on some bad roads - it's really no joke at all. I had so much stuffing that I had extreme pain on the right side of my stomach - nothing would get rid of that pain but a few days of heavy laxatives and changing my diet up.

 

[TippyCup4Life]

Thanks. Pretty certain that pods are the cause- long term use- because the incredible fiber intake(powder), + the opposite digestive slowdown, chronic constipation, overuse of laxatives, high sugar diet, hormonal mixup....all these things on their own can cause impairment of the bile system.
And with pods you are doing all of that stuff at once.
Furthermore, bile duct blockage stresses the liver, can cause infection/stones.
Awww fuck.
I just went to a chinese herbalist and picked up some tablets, I'm going to cut my pod use in half and go on a very simple diet until next monday when I see the Dr.
This WAS NOT something I anticipated happening, never even heard of it regarding opiates.
Maybe I'll start a new pod scare like that cadmium, or whatever that was heavy metal pod thread.
Hopefully, like that person It will turn out ok.
...I'm still pretty sure i'm immortal!!!

 

[placid space]

I really hope this was last relapse.

Even doing a few bags makes my breathing HORRIBLE!


I can't breathe through my nose, and everytime I inhale it sounds filtered. Every exhale comes with this annoying wheeze noise. 8) I sound like an 80 year old man with lung problems. I feel out of breath and I'm just sitting. When I actually have to do something that would make me a little out of breath or breathe harder, it gets me soo winded and it's so uncomfortable.

Once this bit of dope wears down, I get to look forward to a few intense days of coughing up chunks of mucus/sputum.

I really hope this was the last time. I don't know how many more times I can do this to myself. This wheezing noise!!!!

Im also one of those with the wheezing problem. What Ive discovered is that it, at least partly, depends on the quality of the dope. Some is a lot worse and gets me to wheeze a lot faster. With some type I can manage. Anyway in general, try to get the best/expensive.

And try using the least open nostril, if perhaps you, like I do, have one a bit bigger and the other a bit more constricted. But that does not really help that much.
What also helps for me is this. Out of paper you make a paper roll, like for sniffing (the same as youd with a banknote). Then I open it up, (watch that it doesnt jump back together and you spill everything, and make sure the paper is slick enough so the powder will slide on it) and put the powder for the line on it (a bit more). I make the roll again (but roll it very little,if any even, just enough to close, so the powder stays in the same place, nicely spread alongside in a line) . Anyhow you have now the powder inside the paperoll instead on the table. Tilt your head, get the paperoll a bit up your nose (by now you should know where it should point and go inside the nose) and make the powder come out by shaking or something the roll, so its nicely deep enough inside the nose. Be very careful not to breathe during and close the nostril after taking the roll out. I keep the head tilted. Now I usually use a little bit of warm water (best if you have something that you can drip it ) and slowly let it up your nose with head tilted (so that the powder get slightly moist, just be careful the fluid does not end up in your ears-..youll see), and begin gently snorting the water (drops,all in all use little water). Close the nostrils a bit with fingers so that you build more pressure for snorting. Just be careful there is no powder getting down into your lungs. I find this better that snorting it mixed with water. that never worked for me.

 

[eon_blue]

Thanks. Pretty certain that pods are the cause- long term use- because the incredible fiber intake(powder), + the opposite digestive slowdown, chronic constipation, overuse of laxatives, high sugar diet, hormonal mixup....all these things on their own can cause impairment of the bile system.
And with pods you are doing all of that stuff at once.
Furthermore, bile duct blockage stresses the liver, can cause infection/stones.
Awww fuck.
I just went to a chinese herbalist and picked up some tablets, I'm going to cut my pod use in half and go on a very simple diet until next monday when I see the Dr.
This WAS NOT something I anticipated happening, never even heard of it regarding opiates.
Maybe I'll start a new pod scare like that cadmium, or whatever that was heavy metal pod thread.
Hopefully, like that person It will turn out ok.
...I'm still pretty sure i'm immortal!!!

The best way to rid yourself of opiate constipation is to every now and then just put off taking your dose for a few hours and let yourself start to withdrawal. Usually one of the first symptoms to hit is diarreah. Take your dose afterwards.

Back when I was using, I would wake up a little sick every morning, but on the days when I new I needed to drop the cosbys off at the pool, I would prep my shot and do it while on the toilet immediately following the deed, lol. Usually, the whole process was so painful that I needed that shot anyway just to make it bearable Thank god those days are no more...

But yeah, that tended to work best for me. Of course, getting clean altogether is the best way but we all (myself included) know how that tends to go...