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man i just quit a 200-300 mg a day oxy habit... ive already gone through 20mgs of Sub in my first 1 1/2 days to feel "normal"... thats a shitload of sub.. i didnt expect to have to take that much....

I'm sure after 2-3 days i could tape my sub down to below 4mgs
 
Carl Landrover said:
DUDE! HELL YEAH! =D

That's awesome man! Congrats! KEEP IT UP! You should feel proud! :)

Tapering is soo important, especially with sub. It's more powerful than people think. Getting down to those specks (I've been there....it seems like it's so small that it's not going to do anything) is tough with eyeballing them and the dose being so small, but it is crucial!

Seems like a lot of people start getting low and then try to jump off at something like 0.5mg and still struggle for a week.

I finally kicked late October 2010, so it's only been a few months, but things are soo much better and manageable in my life. I feel so much happier! :D <3 I don't have crazy up and downs every day anymore either.




The next part is really important. Don't feel obligated to jump into anything too serious, but it's really crucial to start having fun and/or healthy activities to do. I'd say that exercise is an absolute must, as is eating/drinking well.

Keep us updated and keep going man! You made it this far, you're almost there! Be patient and you'll soon have days where you don't NEED any opiate and you'll feel fine! =D
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Man, your post really made my day. I needed that encouragement after today. Dealing with a Bupe taper, college courses and an asshole roommate really wears me down. I really appreciate the kind words.

I'm starting to force myself to exercise, and it really is its own kind of medicine.

I estimate in about 2 weeks I'll be bupe/opiate free. I'm scared, yes, but really excited.

Congrats to you man on your successful taper! I'm hoping I eventually get to where you're at.

EDIT: Today, Feb. 14th I didn't take my dose, and I feel pretty ok, this is encouraging. Granted my day is only 9 hours in.
 
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detox help!

hi - first want to thank everyone for sharing their strength and stories - reading both encouraging words and how other people are struggling is extremely helpful- i otherwise feel so incredibly alone...

okay: i really need to get clean - but the only option for me is a 21 day methadone detox... i've kicked meth (@15 yr ago) and it was the worst, most painful kick ever! i have an H and coke habit - a huge habit - for about a year - but from what i remember, kicking H is less violent and is over fast than meth.. tho, it's been a very long time...

my question: does anyone know of anyone who has been successful w/a 21 day methadone detox???

i have a lot of pills, dilaudid and very low dose methadone, that i can try to ween myself with...tho those aren't the best choices - they scare me less than a 21 day methadone detox - but i'd much rather be in some kind of program where i don't have to dose myself.... errr.!!

suggestions???

thanks for any help!
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call me crazy but i actually think SUB is so much better to take long term if your going to take opiates... i hate this bull shit up and downs with oxy.. I regret going back to my regular dr and getting oxy's i cannot fill when i should've gotten a sub script..... ughhh
 
To the above poster congradulations on 22 days off opiates!

I would agree that suboxene fluctuates moods greatly. My advice would be to taper off if you

can.
 
bow-viper1 said:
Sorry to hear about your day, DW. I have had a couple of those in the past two weeks when I haven't been able to come up with the money to get my Suboxone filled.

Right now, at 2:30 A.M., I'm rolling pennies trying to come up with the USD $12.39 it is going to cost me to buy my one 8mg tablet. I have about $12 right now, but I also need to put $3-4 in for gas to get to my pharmacy and back.

It is so pathetic that I'm at a point in my life where another $5 would really mean I had no problem, and I am having a hard time coming up with it :(

I'm thinking of pawning my TI-89 calculator tomorrow, which is worth $100+, but I'll probably only get like $25 for it.
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ask pep at the gas station for 3 or 4 dollars. tell em u left ur debit card at home and ur out of gas. it works. ive made $80 a day doing it when i wasnt working. u hang in there. i take roxy 15mg everyday several times. i have a script but it was always that way. i wish i had the will power to get clean.
 
60 hrs into withdrawals....god why did i do this again. i had a chance to quit with suboxone but blew it the second i ran out. i just want to use sooooooooooooooooo bad

FUCK
 
I haven't used Heroin for 26 days and actually feel quite good .
I am on a small meth script and benzo's butstill this is a major acheivement for me and probably the longest i have gone without using H on top for 8/9 years.
:):)
 
Way to go!

brimz said:
I haven't used Heroin for 26 days and actually feel quite good .
I am on a small meth script and benzo's butstill this is a major acheivement for me and probably the longest i have gone without using H on top for 8/9 years.
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That is so awesome!!
I can remember one time I was about at that point and that was when the sun really started to shine. Keep it up!
 
Basically been dipping the tip of my finger in the dust from my script bottle and then plugging, keeps me pretty well enough for the whole day. This is by far the most progress I've made. Could anyone estimate here what amount that would be equivalent to in MG? It seems like just about 10 tiny specs or so.
 
<unintelligible - OverDone> the couple thing, It may look sweet for a bit, but you can guarantee they will be back on it within time. Two junkies in a relationship really is a time bomb waiting to go off. That's all it takes is for one of them to give the other the eye and any will power is gone; take it from me.
 
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johnny pants down said:
Hi, just new to the forum and still checking things out..

I was on methadone for a while and it was pointless, worse for me than doing the gear. Getting on a script was a mistake. I managed to reduce my dosages and switch over to subutex. Wow it was like a new lease of life. I know loads of people who swear by the meth and hate subbies but suppose everyone is different and is effected by things in different ways.

All I suggest is that if you are taking methadone and feel it's not doing much for you, you're still using too much and getting sick. Try the subbies. I didn't realise how bad I was until I changed over. Soo much better, my usage is way down (drought partially responsible I guess) but generally feel loads more normal.

The misconception of health is that it is just the absence of sickness.. We will normally be satisfied as long as we're not rattling to fuck. But chances are you could be feeling a whole lot better.
Give 'em a go... Also like I said before maybe you are on subbies or something buy they may not be working out for you, give something else a go.. Try different things until you get it right for yourself!
Blahblahblah ramble over
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Johnny Pants Down - must be from Britain, I can't believe how long this drought is lasting; it started well before Christmas.

I completely agree with you about the Subs, people need to remember what a proper cluck feels like and then they will realise how good they are. Tried a stint on Meth, but after seeing some of the people in rehab who were there because of meth and not gear, I realised that it is a far worse drug to do your cluck off.

I have managed to get off loads of times, but its always when I am not staying in my area. I only need 3-5days of subs when I am away, and as long as I know I have no means of getting home or scoring it is mainly mind over matter, but as soon as I know when I am due to go back home I will start thinking about just getting the 'one bag' and I will leave it. This happens every time, even though I know that is never the case.
 
I had a 3 year addiction to heroin, and stopped without subs or methadone as i dont have insurance or live near a clinic (about the millionth time i tried to quit)

Its almost been a year now 10 1/2 months and I do not know if quiting was worth it as far as mental health goes, I have snorted coke about 3x not a lot, and did meth once last week, and it scares me because I feel a little of relief but I feel were if I got more I would start the cycle so I never buy more in fear of returning to what I use to be.

Its such a fucking struggle because I am so depressed and feel hopeless but cant treat it in fear of returning to my addiction (i promised myself i wouldnt return and a very special person) I feel stuck because im afraid im going to fuck up my relationship even though Im doing so good because im so unhappy (i try my best to act not depressed in fear of her leaving me)
 
shazdae said:
Johnny Pants Down - must be from Britain, I can't believe how long this drought is lasting; it started well before Christmas.

I completely agree with you about the Subs, people need to remember what a proper cluck feels like and then they will realise how good they are. Tried a stint on Meth, but after seeing some of the people in rehab who were there because of meth and not gear, I realised that it is a far worse drug to do your cluck off.

I have managed to get off loads of times, but its always when I am not staying in my area. I only need 3-5days of subs when I am away, and as long as I know I have no means of getting home or scoring it is mainly mind over matter, but as soon as I know when I am due to go back home I will start thinking about just getting the 'one bag' and I will leave it. This happens every time, even though I know that is never the case.
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Heh exactly my crack!! Yeah I'm from the north east but been living in london and trying to stay clean/find work.. currently no gear good gear connections in london.. I'm back home now and stupidly managed to make some new "friends" so pretty much habbited up!! Gear drought seems like it's clearing up a bit as managing to score ok gear but bit more expensive. Need to hit the road desperately and get clean!!
 
Hey all. Let me start off by telling yo ua little about my addiction...

I lived and work in phoenix a couple years back and got involved with a girl that had a scipt of roxies.Iggnorant to the seriousness of opiates I started taking them on a regular basis. Then moved on to snorting them. Come to find out the reason she wasnt taking them was because she used heroin and sold her rx to fuel her habit. My forst expirience with wd had me freaked out and panicked. I was desperately trying to find some opaite and a mutual friend of our offered me some "opium" which obviously turned out to be tar. I began smokoing that on a regular basis. 8 months later and a full blown heroin addict i decided enough was enough. I got my hands on some subs, packed my shit up, and moved back to rural michigan thinking thats the last place i would be able to find opiates. I was clean for nearly a year before I started takin with the pills. First hydro then oxy then before I knew it was was on the hunt for dope once again. As it turns out a childhood friend of mine knew right where to go. At first i managed to drive to the city and only use occasionaly. Still smoking my dope I had realized that since it wasnt tar i was pretty much wasting ,ost of it. So i did something I told myself I never would. I became an IV heroin user. I loved it. But what I dont love is now some months down the road I need heroin everyday. I spend all my money on it. Im a full blown addict. Im at nearly 36 hours clean right now and cant manage. Im gettin a pack from a friend that has one.

My biggest question is how do I get help? I have tried methadone clinics but without insurance that would be more expensive than the dope itself. which I cant afford. I have tried bupe doctors in my area but they only can have 100 patients at a time and are full. Or i would have to go to the office everyday to get my pill and none of them are close to where I live, they are nearly all and hour out of town. Not to mention if I did get a rx for subs without insurance I know it runs about 8 dollars a pill. I have tried local rehabs and hospitals to try and find somewhere to detox. Rehab wont take me without insurance and most hospitals dont offer detox services. Someone told me to go to the er and tell then i am in wd and they will admit me that way but i dunno. Reaching my wits end unhealthy thoughts enter my mind which scares the shit out of me.

Anyone with advice I would greatly appreciate it. THANKS!

welp i caved and did that pack. I feel so much better but desperateky wanna get off this shit. Its ruining my life. Affecting work, Relationships with friends, And worst of ak rekationships with family.
 
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^try to get subs off the streets. most places arent much more than the doctor that you said. do a taper with them, not maintenance. i am doing that and it is working for me. instead of spending my money on dope i bought subs from a friend of a friend. i have worked myself from 6mg a day to 1mg a day within 3 weeks and it was pretty easy so far, the last few mgs are the hardest.

try it out. its relatively cheap, you can do it privately and without disturbing your life, and its not too painful. its easier than you think. personally i think smoking weed totally takes your mind off cravings during the taper.
 
Day 6 off opiates

Hey, its 830am here and I figured I'd just write this for anyone coming off of opiates right now, or thinking about it. I'm on day 6 of withdrawal from a 120mg/day+ oc habit, and I feel a lot better; comfortable and well if I smoke pot actually.

Anyways, it does get easier, and there's a lot to be found in everyday life that I'd forgotten about.
 
Congrats Knarf :) I'm going to move this to The Dark Side, the Bluelight forum that is the most focused on recovery related issues.

Homeless------------------------------------> TDS
 
ErikTheRed said:
Basically been dipping the tip of my finger in the dust from my script bottle and then plugging, keeps me pretty well enough for the whole day. This is by far the most progress I've made. Could anyone estimate here what amount that would be equivalent to in MG? It seems like just about 10 tiny specs or so.
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How you been doing man? Hope everything is going alright! :)



Just wanted to give a quick update on myself as I just realized that this is the longest I've gone without taking something opiate/opioid related since summer 2006. If I go another week it'll be the longest since summer 2005. That makes me a little sad writing that since 2005 was so long ago now, but I'm pretty pumped with how things have been going.

I last used 6 weeks ago when I was really drunk and split an OP 80 with someone. So I chewed half a 40 of those crappy OCs. If I hadn't been with this one friend I wouldn't have used, so that bugged me. Other than that I last used on Jan. 2, so I've used once in close to 10 weeks, which is really awesome for me! :)
 
Carl Landrover said:
DUDE! HELL YEAH! =D

That's awesome man! Congrats! KEEP IT UP! You should feel proud! :)

Tapering is soo important, especially with sub. It's more powerful than people think. Getting down to those specks (I've been there....it seems like it's so small that it's not going to do anything) is tough with eyeballing them and the dose being so small, but it is crucial!

Seems like a lot of people start getting low and then try to jump off at something like 0.5mg and still struggle for a week.

I finally kicked late October 2010, so it's only been a few months, but things are soo much better and manageable in my life. I feel so much happier! :D <3 I don't have crazy up and downs every day anymore either.


The next part is really important. Don't feel obligated to jump into anything too serious, but it's really crucial to start having fun and/or healthy activities to do. I'd say that exercise is an absolute must, as is eating/drinking well.

Keep us updated and keep going man! You made it this far, you're almost there! Be patient and you'll soon have days where you don't NEED any opiate and you'll feel fine! =D
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hey there need some advice, been on a detox now from meth for a week should have been 2ml but me being me i fucked it up and lied so was on bout 10 ml and using a bag of gear a day, so now i got to go through it, i got britlofex , valium, buscupan, loperamide, and i just found a 8ml subbie, so as from tomorrow i must start wat do you think the best way to do it will be/ its the morning thats the problem cos i wake up about 5,
then my fucking head starts, do you think if i have a small bit of the sub first it will be the best way, then the britlofex and so on, just after some advice, been at it for years and can talk the talk just cant waqlk the walk {yet} cheers
 
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