This makes so much sense. Despite trying not to, I did a 5 day run with Odt, as I found it impossible to resist, and that left me in w/ds, and I didnt want to get in any deeper than that. I found ODT immediately very enjoyable.
With heroin, I think I bought 1g amounts on 2 or 3 occasions, but I didnt use it for more than 2 days in a row.
IIRC.
The warnings on those OTC cocodamols containing 8mg codeine and 500mg of paractemol not to use for more than 3 days in a row are laughable though. Surely anyone who thinks that anyone is going to get addicted from using 8-16 mg of codeine every 4 hours for 4 days is very much mistaken.
Is Odt O-desmethyltramadol?
I'v'e been wanting to try that. I think I'd like it since it's tramadol's full agonist metabolite.
I use to love tramadol. But I found even without a tolerance, I had to take at least 300-400mg in a day for a "high", one that would get me nodding & such.
I actually came across some tramadol after not having any for a long time. And I tried to take 300mg & holy fuck the SNRI effects were waaay too prominent.
Gave me a weird light headed feeling, dizziness, nausea, twitchy-ness, anxiety, etc...
Which is really odd because I was a tramadol addict for 11 years & I was able to handle 300-400mg easily, without any sort of SNRI effects at all.
Maybe my liver enzymes have changed since I was in my 20's? I dunno, but all through out my 20's and early 30's, tramadol was just like any other opioid to me (better even, because it was more stimulating & lasted longer than some shitty hydrocodone), but now it seems like mostly SNRI effects, although weak, are more prominent than the opioid effects.
So ODSMT is probably a ton more enjoyable.
But yeah as much as I love heroin/opioids, there are times when I'll get them & the first few days of using it are actually pretty boring. And I bet a lot of people also try them & don't understand the hype at first.