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[heroin] first time; intranasal

Ondine

Ondine

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[heroin] 11mg first time; intranasal. The start of something?

Finally got a hold of some smack. I have some moderate experience with opiates; have done vics, oxys, codeine, morphine pills before.
This is with relatively zero tolerance.

I received 250mg of high quality #4 heroin from afghanistan.

At this point in my life I am completely opposed to using needles, so I'm going intranasal this time.
(So far today I ingested 30mg of aMT around 4 hours ago, 30mg of MXE about an hour ago and just smoked a spliff)
I weigh out 12mg of the gear, it colored like sand and seems a little chunky. Move the tiny amount of powder into a small line shape, and up it goes.

At first the sting is almost none existant. After about 2 minutes however, once I lie down, a throbbing sensation moves from the top of my nose, down to the root of my right front tooth. This is a very strange sensation that I have never experienced after snorting anything before. The pain isn't intense at all, but it is a little annoying. It lasts for about 5 minutes until I start to feel the effects of the H kicking in.

After 10 minutes, my body starts feeling like its 5 times its normal weight, and this wonderful warm, opiate feeling spreads throughout my body. As I'm writing this report, my mind begins to drift off and I have a hard time thinking about what I'm going to write next. Apparently this H is extremely pure.

This goes out to anyone who is planning on trying heroin for the first time, just like me.
I think heroin is an extremely enjoyable drug through the nasal route. At this time, I don't plan on ever using needles, so if you are thinking about using H, don't get it in your head that you'll eventually end up going down that path. I couldn't see myself wanting to change RoAs personally.

Since I have 250mg left, I'm wondering how quickly my tolerance will build up and how fast I'll go through it all.

Like I said earlier, I have virtually zero tolerance, so I was apprehensive about trying any of this at all. That being the case, it is essential to have a milligram scale for this sort of thing. 11mg could have easily looked the same as 33mg to my eyes.

I suppose I could turn this into a combo thread regarding aMT, MXE and H. At this point, the really isn't much to speak about in terms of synergy. The feeling of the heroin really overshadows the effects of the aMT and the MXE, though they are still there, in the background. Maybe higher doses of aMT would be more interesting.

[Edit] An added question: does anyone know how long I should expect it to last? I feel like I peaked very quickly.
 
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all im gonna say is a lot of people on here said they started out just like you and switched to IV eventually. Nobody is going to think "yeah I really cant wait to start needing this stuff just to be able to not feel like complete shit." Just look at your post "at this time, I dont plan on ever using needles". So what in like two years it may be different? Not trying to be a downer but dont fool yourself into thinking that you're too smart to get addicted. I did H intranasally for 6 months in 09-10, didnt do it at all for a year, and recently did it again this past new years and started doing it again. I can control myself from spending money I need for shit like bills and gas but the thought of it is always in the back of your head somewhere.
 
Fair, the only thing is that I don't hang out with anyone who does H. In fact if most of my friends knew I was doing it, they'd probably want to give me a talking to. To me, the task of actually going and seeking out heroin was heavy enough. If I have it on me, I don't see myself also going out and trying to find a needle+trying to figure out how to properly inject myself as well. That's not to say it won't happen.. I guess the biggest leap is actually getting a hold of the drug itself. It's just after trying it, I don't see any reason to go the extra mile and take the extra risk.
 
i started using needles when i started using by myself. no one to ask you what the fuck you are doing.
 
If the aMT comes up a little more tell me what H plus that is like? Especially if you re-dose the H while your tripping. Sounds like youve had a fun little night haha
 
I have to say that MXE + Heroin is one hell of a wonderful combo. 40mg of MXE and you only need 8-10mg of H to get to a real nice place. I only have 160mg left and I'm hoping I can make it last 3 weeks at least. My plan is to only use it wednesdays, fridayss, saturdays and sundays, if my will power is strong enough. Anyone have any tricks they use to keep themselves from indulging on days when they're planning not to?
 
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Hey, I get the whole "you won't be able to control how much you do heroin because it's too addicting" thing, but just posting cynical bullshit won't help anyone. I thought that this was supposed to be a forum where one could get advice from experienced users on how to safely and responsibly use drugs. Surely there has to be someone who has some advice on how to keep my use in check. I'm not asking for a miraculous cure for addiction, just wondering what other people do to help them use responsibly.

I've made my choice to start using heroin, I just want to try to be educated about it. Is there something wrong with that?
 
There is just as many wrong things with that as there is right in my opinion. SWIM started snorting dope and after 6 months lost control of use and landed himself in court ordered rehab. SWIM doesn't use anymore as he enjoys it too much for controlled use but if your one of the people that has little fear of prosecution and immense will power then more power too you man. Go do your thing! Remember that even the same stamped bags may have different potency though.

Don't wanna see anybody end up in a body bag. BL is harm prevention after all! There is only 1 universal coping tool for avoiding addiction and that is will power. Everything else is individual.

P.s I also hate people that waste a post on "get rid of your stash", go join a D.A.R.E forum if you want to dig at people in such an unintelligent way.
 
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Im sorry. My fault for seeming cynical. I was just trying to point out that planning out certain days that you will use opiates pretty much never works. Enjoyed the read and again I wish you the best on keeping your use under control. I know I cant.
 
From what I hear - three days in a row is a pretty deep routine to try and clamber out of.

How much have you got left now?
 
Yeah I felt pretty good when I woke up this morning, but I'm definitely feeling some slight withdrawal effects right now. Can't say that I really have a notable craving for it right now though. I've done approximately 60mg (at different intervals) since I got it on friday. Never really felt that I had to increase my dosage past more than 15mg at any point to get the effect I wanted at the time. That means I have about 190mg left. I'm going to try my best to refrain from using it again until friday or saturday.

Hopefully small doses of MXE will help to suffice if I'm feeling any stronger craving.
 
You can stick to snorting, the thing with a lot of these users on blue light is they are fiends. Sorry to be a prick but a lot of you guys can't enjoy a nice low dose relaxation, you need to go off and do extreme doses all the time where you end off needing to inject to get the same high. If you can stick to doing little lines here and there you can stay snorting it for how ever long you want, also with that dose it isn't thatt harmful. It's all up to you bro
 
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You can stick to snorting, the thing with a lot of these users on blue light is they are fiends. Sorry to be a prick but a lot of you guys can't enjoy a nice low dose relaxation, you need to go off and do extreme doses all the time where you end off needing to inject to get the same high. If you can stick to doing little lines here and there you can stay snorting it for how ever long you want, also with that dose it isn't thatt harmful. It's all up to you bro
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I dont IV and Im definitely not a fiend. Nobody is telling the OP to not do whatever they want just trting to get them to look at the positives and negatives.
 
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You can stick to snorting, the thing with a lot of these users on blue light is they are fiends. Sorry to be a prick but a lot of you guys can't enjoy a nice low dose relaxation, you need to go off and do extreme doses all the time where you end off needing to inject to get the same high. If you can stick to doing little lines here and there you can stay snorting it for how ever long you want, also with that dose it isn't thatt harmful. It's all up to you bro
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Fiends start somewhere; people don't wake up or start as fiends. They dabble, dabble some more, and increasingly allow heroin into their lives more. I'm not outright disqualifying the essence of your point (if I understand it): some people dabble, and dabble, and nothing more. My experience is it's rare people have that level of self-control.

And OP, your post broaches upon the subject of needle use (not your method atm), but the language used is provocative to people who've lost control to the needle, and they'll feel obligated to warn you. I myself will refrain b/c I can tell don't want to hear it and respect you not wanting to hear it. But the way you posted allows the interpretation you are not so confident you're going in a reasonable direction, whether that was your intent or no. Good luck in any case.
 
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I guess my thing with heroin is that I see it simply as a more economical way of getting an opiate high. I have a lot of friends that will do roxys and vics on a weekly basis, but they don't keep it a daily thing. My hope is that I can keep my nasal H use to the same level, where I'm just using it on a weekly basis in small amounts, enough to get me nodding on occasion. Successfully made it through today without doing any without any real cravings, only four more days to go.

Does anyone think that there's a more addictive aspect to heroin than there is to prescription opiates. From my perception, it seems that the danger of each is equal, if not more dangerous on the prescription side because they tend to be more available. At this point, I have a steady connect of very high quality H that I can get weekly-biweekly at a very reasonable price for 0.25g...

I guess what I'd like this thread to possibly turn into is a substitute for opiate craving discussion. I'm far more experienced with psychedelics and have a good amount on me at the moment (quite a bit of aMT, 2c-b, LSD, and Molly) as well as some MXE. Does anyone have any experience using these particular substances to curve a craving for opiates?
 
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Fiends start somewhere; people don't wake up or start as fiends. They dabble, dabble some more, and increasingly allow heroin into their lives more. I'm not outright disqualifying the essence of your point (if I understand it): some people dabble, and dabble, and nothing more. My experience is it's rare people have that level of self-control.

And OP, your post broaches upon the subject of needle use (not your method atm), but the language used is provocative to people who've lost control to the needle, and they'll feel obligated to warn you. I myself will refrain b/c I can tell don't want to hear it and respect you not wanting to hear it. But the way you posted allows the interpretation you are not so confident you're going in a reasonable direction, whether that was your intent or no. Good luck in any case.
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You're right that I don't want to hear about the possibility of me using needles in the future. Personally, I've never been opposed to IM'ing drugs (like K or 2c-b), but to me, the idea of injecting something into my veins just seems so outlandish. Then again, 2 years ago even the thought of trying H seemed incredibly outlandish as well. I guess I just feel that there's this stigma surrounding heroin as a drug, when there is much less of a stigma surrounding those using opiates like codeine, oxycodone and hydrocodone. I understand that they are weaker drugs per dosage, but to me it seems very easy to cross that threshold where they become as serious and damaging as a full blown heroin addiction.
 
I've considered buying Heroin before. But I know I should not, because I can't even manage to not go out and waste my money on packets of codeine.I couldn't imagine what I'd be like with smack.
 
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