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Heroin and diazepam question

'taking heroin recreatonally'...... mmmmmm not in my life have I seen this, except at the start. If you take it and like it you will become a junkie. Im a junkie on a script so when the cash runs out im on the phy tabs its only been 30 years so i spose i could start recreational use.
 
For the size of this town, there is a shockingly high amount of addicts, and deaths :|. Over the years i've never participated after frequenting various open houses. I only had my two rolly epic adventure a few months ago, but christ, i can see the pull.

I remember years ago at a 'smackhouse', this bird would go into "their room", stumble about, sit down then spew into a bucket after administration. I assumed this was a one off, but it happened every time. It had to be said "why the fuck do you take this shit if all it does is make you spew?"

The reply was "yeah man, but it's a nice kind of spew". So there we have it, spewing can be pleasurable. :)
 
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Puking is great when you really need to puke. I generally don't. Never once on opies. First proper scag sesh I had every cunt around me was puking almost constantly. I elected (possibly due to iron stomach, most likely due to being a massive drugpig) to just get higher.

No drug makes me puke. Some drugs make me shit. In either case, is the quality of the high I'm interested in not the GI discomfort. Fukkin amateurs ;)<3
 
Shambles said:
The reason junkies tend to only take opies and crack is cos crack is the only other drug most smack dealers usually sell and is one of the few that is always highly effective even when opiated. Other stims mostly did shit all for me when I was on the gear. Psyches were very hit and miss and massively reduced in effect even when they worked (and didn't freak me the fuck out due to the sudden clarity of knowing what I'd been doing to myself). Basically I - and I'd wager most junkies - had to rely on opies, crack, booze and benzos cos they were all I could easily get that worked. Almost never used any other drugs cos they either didn't work, barely worked or were simply an unnecessary expense cos crack 'n' smack are the only things that mattered
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Hey Shambles, totally agree my two favourite drugs.. Only tend to smoke rocks occasionally though.. But funny you should say about the different stimulants and effects with gear - we had some REALLY kick ass meth last summer brought over from eastern Europe by a mate.. It was literally no more than 0.3 of a gram we share between four of us, it tool about 6 or 7 hours to get through 3 of the guys were snortin I smoked my pieces so cudnt have smoked more than 0.1 of this shit.. Anyway after the last of it we were still awake with absolutely no chance of sleep 72 hours later. Taking lots of benzos and drinking some liquid codiene shit did nothing to being us down, so bought 2 bags of average brown smoked them up pretty quick to myself and still it was hours before I could crash. The 0.1 of meth overpowered the benzos, brown everything. Now that was some crazy good meth and the brown wasnt top notch but still I don't think anythin can overpower that type of strong eastern European meth!
 
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you don't roll it In a spliff...

That's more wasteful, than stoners waste weed.

Read up on "chasing the dragon" technique.

If that's too hard, just put it on foil, heat it up, and suck the smoke up. Easy.

And make sure you resmoke the collected particles in the foil pipe... they're the most fun, concentrated bits...
 
Hmm....see these MSG valium. I'm very suspicious of them and I'm not even sure they are valium at all. They just don't behave like valium should. For a start they don't taste like valium, they're too crunchy and the buzz is more like amitriptyline or something equally nasty.

They might well be diazepam. I cannot say absolutely but I just don't trust them one bit AND they're also suspiciously cheap.

Just be careful what you munch.
 
stereo mic said:
I know this is off topic but I'm sure someone on here could answer me a quick question.

Is it safe to mix oxy and gbl?
Need to sleep got a busy day tomorrow.
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Are you still alive? :)

It's inherently risky to mix CNS depressants, but people do it. If you insist on doing it, make sure you know how you react to both drugs individually, and work out how you react to the drugs in combination in a series of trials, starting with lower doses of both and gradually increase them until you die ;)

I think this is a poor choice of sleeping medication, GBL will knock you out but first it'll drive you into an amnesiac mania. And you can knock yourself out on GBL alone, no need for oxy.

But passing out on GBL can be bad for you physically. It's not sleep. In sleep you move about to prevent tissue damage and circulation problems. You can also react to emergency situations. In GBL unconsciousness you do not move (I don't anyway). You can cut off your circulation, and you can compress nerves. I've come to from GBL with a numb tongue because I've clamped it between my teeth as I passed out. I've come to with numb arms several times and it's taken literally hours for normal service to resume. I'm not sure but I think it must be possible to cause serious damage to yourself in this way.

If you puke or your breathing is otherwise impeded you probably will not react to it in the normal way. So there is a risk of choking. And you may have problems responding to any other kind of life threatening emergency that arises while you're out for the count.

I've also found opiates and opioids can be effective on their own, but with similar problems to GBL. I've sent myself to sleep on AH7921 several times, and probably 50% of the time I've woken up with no feeling in my arms because I passed out lying on my back with my arms resting on my belly.

GBL, like most drugs, is definitely best used conscious :)

If you really need chemical assistance to sleep, my advice would be to stick to a benzo, or perhaps phenibut or similar.
 
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But passing out on GBL can be bad for you physically. It's not sleep. In sleep you move about to prevent tissue damage and circulation problems. You can also react to emergency situations. In GBL unconsciousness you do not move (I don't anyway). You can cut off your circulation, and you can compress nerves. I've come to from GBL with a numb tongue because I've clamped it between my teeth as I passed out. I've come to with numb arms several times and it's taken literally hours for normal service to resume. I'm not sure but I think it must be possible to cause serious damage to yourself in this way.

If you puke or your breathing is otherwise impeded you probably will not react to it in the normal way. So there is a risk of choking. And you may have problems responding to any other kind of life threatening emergency that arises while you're out for the count.

I've also found opiates and opioids can be effective on their own, but with similar problems to GBL. I've sent myself to sleep on AH7921 several times, and probably 50% of the time I've woken up with no feeling in my arms because I passed out lying on my back with my arms resting on my belly.

GBL, like most drugs, is definitely best used conscious :)
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That's interesting you say that... I know exactly what you mean. Woke up with dead arms, and legs, and whatever else. However, I've never had anything happen that didn't resolve itself, and I've passed out maybe 1,000 times, or even more. It depends what dose you take. You can take a moderate dose, and have a less deep sleep, so you'll move about a bit. You can have a ridiculous dose, and you probably wouldn't move much until it started to wear off. I'm not disagreeing with you, because it's possible to really hurt yourself on G. I once fell asleep, stood up, whilst frying sausages, and the smoke alarm woke me... I could have died, but I actually woke up. Then again, I've had absolutely no injuries from passing out, that I can remember, and a lot of that time was spent alone. It's an odd one. Anyway...

Jungo: Flush your smack, and stop doing drugs. You buy THREE GRAMMES of heroin, despite never using it before. Why? When you were posting earlier, you suddenly become very coherent, in about 20 minutes. That's pretty weird, to say you couldn't type. If you're not a massive troll, then just stop. You bought heroin, then ask if you can stick it in a roll-up. How many people have you heard of that does that? You also ask if you can take TWENTY valium, and take heroin. I don't ever say this to people, but you are too stupid to be using drugs. You will get fully dependant on heroin, and you'll be dead in a month, because you know nothing. You constantly start threads with questions you'd find on Yahoo! fucking answers. You should NOT take drugs. Maybe have a joint, or a couple of beers, but you're going to be next on the RIP list. If that seems harsh, I'm sorry, but I'd rather be honest with you. I thought I used to be wreckless, but I suddenly feel a lot better.
 
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