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Heroin and diazepam question

jungo87

jungo87

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I have recently started to dabble with H and today i bought a 3 grams. I've no tools to jag and no foil so could i put some in rollup? Also has any heard of these msg valium doing the rounds msg little yellow pill ive had 20 odds and feeling good
 
Leave the H the hell alone and stay off the Diaz until you're not in the kind of place where you'd gamble YOUR LIFE on a query to a bunch of random internet people is my advice but I'm old fashioned like that. Aren't you that bloke who did loads of unfortunate shit on phenazepam a while back? Don't add actually dying to the list of silly things you did on benzos.
 
What Jan said. No. Really. That's as much as anybody should need.

But back in the real world... yes you can smoke scag in a rollie if you want to. It will work fine. Is just insanely wasteful is all. Also works fine inna bong if ya have plenty and don't mind wasting it. But really - seriously - think twice, thrice then think more whether you really wanna be a junky cos it ain't half as glamorous as it seems :\

As for your benzo question, just check the Benzo Discussion Thread for info on the knockoffs doing the round at the moment. From memory, MSJs are mostly okay at the moment. But check the thread for actual info from folks wot are currently using 'em rather than my hazy memory.
 
Seriously though, benzo + opiate = death far more often than any of us like. Even amongst experienced folk (have lost more friends to that combo than any other) let alone noobs. This is not me trying to patronise you. This is us trying to not kill you <3
 
Can I ask why you purchased 3 grams given you've never touched it?
Do you have any opiate experience at all?
And to echo the other posters, don't even think of touching skag until 48 hours after your last benzo dose.
 
I jagged it a few times and my friend warned it can kill you. i jagged because im useless tooting. I also had a few beers this milornibg. brown is far better thab drinj.b im on a valiyn script l. ib just had smk of the kit feel great
 
SproutOnSmack said:
Can I ask why you purchased 3 grams given you've never touched it?
Do you have any opiate experience at all?
And to echo the other posters, don't even think of touching skag until 48 hours after your last benzo dose.
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because i saved monuy upvand now ivlm on a major vlowout
 
Yes, kit does feel great. That's kinda its big selling point, dontcha know ;)

The big problem (aside from all that addiction, thieving, robbing, dealing, selling yer arse ferra bag stuffs) is that it stops feeling great a lot sooner than most of us would like. Unless you keep pushing and pushing the dose until you die. Or happen to be one of those lucky few that still get any effect whatsoever other than keeping the sickness at bay ferra coupla hours once you get a taste for it and can't stop no matter how much you want to.

Is not being hypocritical cos gear is godly when it does owt - believe me I (and several others in this thread) know all about that ;) - but is simply cos those that have been there and done that wouldn't wish it on our worst enemy is all.

EDIT: Tolerance means shit all. Absolutely nothing. Folks I've known had insane tolerance to both opies and benzos and had been heavily addicted to both for many, many years for the most part. They are still mostly dead though. It's just not predictable how it'll pan out. Well, do it enough and it totally is predictable. See The Shrine? I'd bet at least one of Spade's balls that 90% of 'em are in there from opiates and/ or benzos. Is not a joke. That combo will kill ya in a heartbeat with no warning and no interest in whatever tolerance you think you may have.
 
I have been stredssed recnfky and tgatv felt like an escape. ive giod contacts for any drg u want mepg, 2xbv. its nt jst kutv that intrests mev cweed drnkb pulis
 
We can all get any drug we want for the most part. Those that choose skag tend to forget and forgo all the others doublequick though cos once you have a taste for opies nothing else will ever matter. Except crack, of couse. And yes, gear really does feel fukkin amazing when you first try it - all your problems just vanish instantly. Until you notice the new one you've just created that's gonna fukkin dwarf any other problem you ever had in your life. The big problem is that it comes on so very damn gentle. Sweet, innocent and seductive. Couldn't harm a fly. You simply will not see the shitstorm coming until you're in the midst of it. Nobody does. Not even those weirdos like me who actuallly actively sought out a heroin addiction. Fuck me it gave me one and was nothing like I'd ever imagined. It's just a shit life with a very high risk of death for the most part. Plain and simple.

Ack. I fukkin hate that I can't help myself from trying to warn noobs about this shit. Every cunt and his dog did the same to me when I was a noob and I know what I thought about it and I know you think the same about the folk doing it here to you now. I know, we know, you know that you will ignore all warnings and end up a junky. It's more or less a done deal now. But in a year or two you'll see somebody post a thread exactly like this one and you will be saying the same. Such is life. Enjoy it while it's enjoyable and try not to die too quick <3
 
sorry got a gouch there, i might go the meph tomorrow not justcseeking out kit. i wouldnt try crack very addictive and leaves you feeling shit
 
i'm an alcoholic and that gets me in trouble other drugs don't. I lie depressed all the time until im on drugs
 
I love Shambles' optimism =D

jungo87, you've got suddenly a bit lucid and better on the keyboard, tell me you'll use this moment of clarity to put the drugs away and have a kip. Or watch a film or something. Please :)
 
jungo87 said:
i wouldnt try crack very addictive and leaves you feeling shit
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Ha! And didn't we all say that too :p:D;)

The reason junkies tend to only take opies and crack is cos crack is the only other drug most smack dealers usually sell and is one of the few that is always highly effective even when opiated. Other stims mostly did shit all for me when I was on the gear. Psyches were very hit and miss and massively reduced in effect even when they worked (and didn't freak me the fuck out due to the sudden clarity of knowing what I'd been doing to myself). Basically I - and I'd wager most junkies - had to rely on opies, crack, booze and benzos cos they were all I could easily get that worked. Almost never used any other drugs cos they either didn't work, barely worked or were simply an unnecessary expense cos crack 'n' smack are the only things that mattered to me.

Am absolutely not saying "Opies are just bad, mkay?" cos they ain't. They - including heroin - can definitely be used purely recreationally. But that is the key. They can only be used purely recreationally (if at all) or you will become a junky. If you stick to only using heroin/other strong opies from time to time then all is good (and enjoy =D) but if you catch yourself using several days in a row - or more than a coupla times a month at most frankly - you will become addicted sooner or later. This is simply a fact. Keep it very casual and stick with other drugs inbetween times (or maybe even no drugs at all now and then if that way inclined 8o) and you will continue to enjoy opies. Anything more than that and you will wish you'd never heard of poppies or the Goodies they provide and will remember this discussion with some considerable regret sometime in the future.

Also, "i wouldnt try crack very addictive and leaves you feeling shit"?!? Cos that definitely doesn't apply to heroin only times a gazillion :D
 
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I love Shambles' optimism =D
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Hahahahhaahaa! =D

Sadly it is simply observation and experience. If you can find anybody on BL or elsewhere that would say otherwise I'll happily call them a liar :D

jungo87 said:
i'm an alcoholic and that gets me in trouble other drugs don't. I lie depressed all the time until im on drugs
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Yes... so switching from alcoholism to heroin addiction will definitely be of benefit to you. Now I understand :sus:;)<3

Seriously, heroin is not the answer to 99.99% of any problems you ever will see. If you think alcoholism is rough... well... it is. But being a baghead ain't exactly a step up. May be less messy and may be easier to function day to day (at least it is when you have enough gear in you to not be climbing the walls, in unbelievable fukkin agony, sweating, shaking, puking, shitting yerself, seriously considering robbing grannies ferra bag and wishing you were dead) but it's a beast of an addiction. It will become your entire existence whether you like it or not. Your entire life reduced to scrabbling around for money to score, hanging around waiting to score, scoring, using, occasionally nodding, mostly not cos you need to be straight up and out to get money for the next one so you don't feel quite as shitty as you did when you woke up that morning... and every other morning.

Honestly, it's no kinda life at all. I doubt even the longterm users still using would argue with that for the most part. I may be one of those annoying ex-addicts but all I want is to try to stop others ending up fukking their entire life up as badly as I did. And as did all those I know who chose that path. Thankfully, I finally managed to quit after over a decade of enslavement and can now use opies recreationally again. If you can skip the years of horrible addiction and stick with the purely recreational use you win hands down :)
 
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