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'Healthiest' stimulant for repeated use

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xTheArsonist

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I just got swapped over to night shifts at work and I was wondering if anyone had any advice on the 'healthiest' stimulant I can use repeatedly along with proper diet and suppliments. I know extended use of any drug is not healthy but I'm hoping to get to the point where I only have to dose on the days where I'm dead tired.

Currently I'm going through some alpha-pvp and I've yet to have any negative effects (Although its only been 2 days since I got it). I have previous experience with perscription stims and illicit ones. So far I quite enjoy the clear headedness of alpha but I'm not finding very much in terms of conclusive information on extended use of it which is kinda off putting.

Any advice at all on either decreasing the impact of alpha-pvp on your body or a 'healther' alternative would be much appriciated!
 
Dexamphetamine. Seriously. It causes less side effects than caffeine for me and a lot of people I know who aren't habitual coffee drinkers. Dexedrine is almost devoid of peripheral stimulation and taken in normal doses for the kind of effect you look for....it's really not that difficult to get a script, and no, Adderall isn't the same at all. I went through the trouble of bringing back all my primary and secondary school history at 27 year old to get a ADD:PI diagnostic and get the Dexedrine 10mg spansules x2 in the morning and Dexedrine 5mg x2 at 4 pm and even that could be considered a high dose.

20mg of dexedrine a day is very little and functional, look into it.
 
Cool, Ill look into dexedrine probably. I dont have a doctor at the moment but my friend gets them for his ADHD or something like that and he doesn't take them at all. He hates the feeling it gives him.
 
Everyone sometimes starts to hate their stimulants....I have a stockpile of my scripted 10mg spansules and 5mg IR pills because i was a good 8 month not wanting to take them.....blame it on ridiculous binge with my girlfriend we'd call sexathons...;) But really the physical and mental effects of the extended days comedown, nevermind the benzo...(i'm addicted to that though) would make black market meth pills seem like an easy ride, probably of what I know ends up in these typical eastern canadian meth pills, they often have anti hypertension meds thrown in...a chemist friend of mine performed GC/MS on several prints we get here in meth pill central (Quebec) and the cleanest and best of them was the Clocks, which had 23mg of meth and 315mg of caffeine (I wondered why they made me take so many shits..lol).

So if you manage to put your hands on dexedrine, hopefully the 5mg IR's...it's my understanding the 10mg IR's aren't available in Canada, or maybe its just my province, be wise with them. Like I said in my previous post, 20mg a day is a medecinal dose without much downsides.

I don't know about Nova Scotia, but my province is very weird with it's not methylphenidate stimulants. Adderal XR(only, no IR's here) are special medication for the over 18 and if you didn't have them for free before being 18 and only had marginal registered use of ritalin with your doctors (I can't endure MPH, makes me so shaky it could as well be giving me seizures that do not knock me down but are really scary, so back then when i was 17 or 18 I said I don't want no more of that and never went back to the doc, although I really should have pursued to cure my ADD back then, I got my college degrees(i got one without the meds i really hate and only did because i wanted to have something to do and not fall on welfare) at 29 years old (4 years after I discovered dex). Vyvanse is a special medication for ALL age groups so obtaining it is a process of trying everything before it and then the doctor has to send documents to the ministry of health and the doctors there review your history etc., just like the goddamn adderal XR past 18 years old....so our best option here is Dexedrine...free for all groups, no generics, only the brand name and it is paid for, lol. I don't see the logic there at all, but there you go, if I find the site where I had printed all the ADD meds available in my province (there were pdf's for each province) I will link you to it for NS.

By the way I'm planning to take 2 weeks off my vacations and going to NS, I think seeing the ocean will be good on the mind in these fucked up days...
 
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i would recommend coca tea but for obvious reasons thats prbly not an option

otherwise i would recommend you try out herbal cognitive enhancers and nootropics and certain stacks including magnesium, fish oil, bacopa, ashwgandha etc

there were times when i was taking the right combination of supplements for the right period of time that i felt, while sober, as if i was on a low dose of suboxone with the motivational qualities of stimulants plus their mental clarity, i was exercising and eating high amounts of raw fruit/veg and getting plenty of sun during those sweet spots as well

i cant think of any chemical stims which i can call "healthy"
 
Dextroamphetamine or methamphetmine, why bother with anything else when there are the tried and true drugs?
 
I've tried every brand of every amphetamine on the market; Adderall (Barr, Sandoz, Corepharma and Shire); Adderall XR (Shire, Teva, Global, Actavis), Dexedrine (Barr, Malincrockd); Dexedrine Spansules (Barr, Malincrockd, Corepharma, GSK); Vyvanse (Shire); and Desoxyn (Mylan, Abbott)... Geez, am I forgetting any?!

I prefer Dexedrine, especially GSK or Corepharma Spansules, but Adderall (Barr generic, specifically) actually treats my symptoms better and I feel less burnout from it than I do from Dexedrine.

Desoxyn is vastly overrated. Yeah, methamphetamine is a great chemical, but at prescribed doses it feels quite a bit weaker than Dexedrine or Adderall.

Anyway, I guess I sort of treat amphetamine the way a wine enthusiast treats vino. Let me know if you have any specific questions.
 
Non-amphetamine: Armodafinil, Modafinil is easier to find. Adrafinil is unscheduled and very easy to find on the cheap.

Phenylpiracetam is also worth mentioning here. Very similar to d-amp in effects, except shorter acting and lacks side effects.

And for amphetamines, I'd say either d-amp or 2-FMA. Stack with neuroprotectants, eg PQQ, Sodium Butyrate for more than occasional use.
 
i dont want to derail this thread but what is someones thoughts on long term modafinil use? ive heard conflicting ideas on that
 
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Cornishman said:
Fixd. ;)

And +1
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This. Levomethamphetamine is going to do nothing but give you a headache if you use a lot. You're not going to get high. It's terrible at crossing the blood-brain border.

Dextromethamphetamine works for me. Desoxyn.
 
DexyDevil said:
I've tried every brand of every amphetamine on the market; Adderall (Barr, Sandoz, Corepharma and Shire); Adderall XR (Shire, Teva, Global, Actavis), Dexedrine (Barr, Malincrockd); Dexedrine Spansules (Barr, Malincrockd, Corepharma, GSK); Vyvanse (Shire); and Desoxyn (Mylan, Abbott)... Geez, am I forgetting any?!

I prefer Dexedrine, especially GSK or Corepharma Spansules, but Adderall (Barr generic, specifically) actually treats my symptoms better and I feel less burnout from it than I do from Dexedrine.

Desoxyn is vastly overrated. Yeah, methamphetamine is a great chemical, but at prescribed doses it feels quite a bit weaker than Dexedrine or Adderall.

Anyway, I guess I sort of treat amphetamine the way a wine enthusiast treats vino. Let me know if you have any specific questions.
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Seems like you didn't have the GSK IR Dexies! Gotcha ;p
 
No ? I thought the states still even had 10mg IR's which really only gsk makes. My canadian province has no generics only the brand name and it is covered by the government's pharm insurance...bizarre eh ? I've mentioned this before, it's bizarre...but it could be because it is pretty rarely scripted here, you really have to have horrible side effects to MPH for doctors to consider amphetamines of any kind ( also yeahhealth is a provincial "right", no a responsability, I suggest americans who have wet dreams about their states about having rights call them responsibilities instead, might make it more palatable to people from the 2 sides..anyway it could be different in other provinces but I doubt it very much)...I'd really love for the 10mg yellow IR ones were still here...spansules have a kind of uneven feeling where one second you think you are crashing but then it creeps back up....I hear Vyvanse is a lot like that too, so I feel blessed to be getting 60 10mg spans and 60 5mg IR's....I would ask for them to be all IR's but I'd rather not push my luck...also I'd end up with less amphetamine amount so..

These days since I'm done with college I still need em for when it's time to work, i'm on temp disability right now due to what methadone did to me (totally fuck up my endocrine system...can happen....bupe will be what i'll use in 10 days or so). So they are mostly used for sex.....yes getting super horny for porn never happens to me anymore while on speed but for actual sex....the gf is very pleased and we share....I know it's bad in theory but before she knew me she would eat typical canadian meth pills that often contain random things other than meth so it's harm reduction to have her be using these....the results are great too...lol.
 
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