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Health risks and problems associated with smoking Oxycodone in the form of OC

Jabberwocky

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i think it's time we could reopen this. let's keep it on topic this time:

hydroazuanacaine said:
Hey,

i have been going through the material safety data sheets for oxycontin itself as well as trying to find them for the each individual non-medical component in the pill. the purdue msds for oxycontin (all doses) does not list any toxic or carcinogenic products of combustion. neither do any of the msds's (that i have been able to find, and that comment on the products of combustion) for the individual non-medical ingredients. the only health hazard i have been able to find is with talc, and it is not any problem with the products of its combustion, but inhaling it as dust. unburned talc certainly poses more of the threat with snorting and shooting then with smoking, so that can hardly be used as a reason not to smoke it. surely breathing anything but air isnt great for the lungs, but i would like to determine if their is evidence that it is truly horrible for you, or this got started because of the negative health effects of inhaling talc.

i would really like to hear of any confirmed health problems resulting from smoked oxycontin (other than those with other ROAs) or find real scientific reports of toxic or carcinogenic fumes. plus, i really wanna see if delta 9 or anyone else can find anything besides the melting point of oxycodone, cause i can't.

Thanks
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thanks leftwing.

alright, lets say you rub the coating off, then the non-medical ingredients you are left with are:lactose, magnesium stearate, polymethyl acrylate, povidone, stearyl alcohol, talc and triacetin.

I was able to find the msds's for everything but polymethyl acrylate. lactose, magnesium stearate, povidone, talc, and triacetin are are harmful to the lungs when inhaled, but as dust particles, not vapors--which means that doesn't mean anything specific to smoking. none of the msds list any toxic or carcinogenic products of combustion, a few release carbon oxids, one even releases nitrous, but nothing toxic. but, polymethyl acrylate, one that i was not able to find and msds for, is an acrylic plastic. plastics are kind of known for being no good when burned and inhaled, but before jumping to any conclusions id like to know what percent of the pills is polymethyl acrylate and what reports there are, if any, of its combustion resulting is toxic vapors. that is what i have been able to find, and i wouldt really say any of it suggest smoking oxycontin has any super serious ROA specific dangers. im sure it leaves some sort of unhealthy residue, but so does all the other shit people smoke.

btw, i have no interest in smoking any pills, i just like to know.

Edit: alright, gonna include my sources. i gotta admit, they really are not considering drug users trying to inhale these burnt materials. unfortunately, they are still the most reliable info i am yet to see on the subject.

first off, this is purdue's msds for oxycontin. talc was the only other material they even bothered including

this is where i found the ingredient list

this is non-coating ingredient list i used

this is where i got the msds's for those inactive ingredients. not gonna list em all, just search
 
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Pills containing talc are dangerous to snort and smoke...Believe it or not, when you snort pills some fine particles make it into the lungs.

I don't believe many polymers completely combust, so its quite difficult to predict what you would be inhaling. However, you should know that the polymer isnt 100% of the pill and you aren't actually smoking that much material when you consider the size of most pills.. I don't believe its as dangerous as everyone makes it out to be (hype), but I don't deny adverse effects.

You could always trap the gas and run some qualitative tests :P

I just can't believe people have been recommending IV over smoking pills.
 
Well he was determined to know, so people told him.

We reccomend it cause

-there both bad for you, and could have serious risks, but honestly most people believe here smoking pills is a waste, so he might as well get high if hes determined.

To hydro; there will be people with a huge knowledge of chemistry on later, they can most definetly break down everything you said and answer it with science.
 
Panacea said:
I just can't believe people have been recommending IV over smoking pills.
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When I read that it seemed logical given hydroazuanacine's post is accurate (sounds like hydro did some research) but I wanted to ask this...

if you think its so clear smoking pills would be safer than IVing are you figuring for sterile technique and proper filtration? If not, would that impact your statement?
 
All I considered was what I would rather my little brother do.

Ex:

I find out my brother just started using oxycodone and decided to smoke it for the first time.

vs

I found out my brother just started usign oxycodone and decided to inject it for the first time.


No amount of safe technique in my mind justifies recommending someone bust their IV cherry instead of inhaling pill smoke
 
^i agree with you, but that's not this thread. this really shouldn't have anything to do with other ROAs, besides ignoring their shared health risks. comparisons like this will just lead to a bunch of opinion. let all that die with the old thread
 
Agreed to the last 2 posters. I respect what you're saying Panacea but after your first statement I thought you had empirical evidence that IVing was more physically harmful.
 
^ IV'ing is just another route of administration. A more effective one at that. Someone catch me up to date, does "smoking" OxyContin even produce effects?
 
PureLife said:
^ IV'ing is just another route of administration. A more effective one at that. Someone catch me up to date, does "smoking" OxyContin even produce effects?
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IME yes smoking oxycontin is an effective ROA. I've been smoking them for about a year now. I've done most of the other ROA, except plugging, IV, IM, and SC, and prefer it over the rest. I can smoke an 80 and get equally or more high than snorting or eating 160mgs, but the high is not as long. Definitely more intense tho with quicker onset.
 
People who 'smoke oc' that I've asked say it gets them 'high' for 30-60 minutes. Do you really think that's you getting 'high?' Or maybe you're just compounding some tiny amount of physical/emotive fluctuation and calling it a 'high?' You see that crusty glossy black and yellow carbonized shit that remains in the foil after you smoke your oc? That's letting you know that what you're doing is not effective or efficient, sorry.
 
IME yes smoking oxycontin is an effective ROA. I've been smoking them for about a year now. I've done most of the other ROA, except plugging, IV, IM, and SC, and prefer it over the rest. I can smoke an 80 and get equally or more high than snorting or eating 160mgs, but the high is not as long. Definitely more intense tho with quicker onset.
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Yeah, that didn't win me over to "smoking" OxyContin at all. Esp. since you don't have any experience with other routes of administration besides oral and nasal. Although you say smoking it is 2x more potent than oral administration. Can any other "smokers" of the OxyContin verify such tall tales?
 
Can we try to keep this thread on topic? So far no one has touched the original subject which is "If you were to smoke OxyContin, what would the health risks be?"

Keep it on topic.
 
^ Does anyone actually really know the answer? Considering the subject isn't really touched upon because it appears to be a completely ineffective route of administration.
 
report away.

unless someone has the enthalpy of vaporization of oxy hcl and the point at which oxy hcl decomposes (and can interpret that info for us), there really isn't any point in debating whether or not it works.

i feel like this may get more informative and focused responses in adv.
 
Before you guys continue bashing smoking oxycontin can you at least support your claims? Obviously none of you have smoked it before! But dont keep talking it down when you havent even tried it firsthand. I'm telling you from my personal firsthand experience it gets you high. I'm not advocating you try it but at least know what your talking about. Provide FACTS!!! not this "you know you only get 10% when you smoke it" horseshit without sourcing please.
 
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