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Hawaiian Baby Woodrose - Frst Time - The Sublingual Test

freqsoft

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LSA: The Sublingual Test

Chemical: LSA (d-lysergic acid amide)
Source: HBWR Seeds (argreia nervosa)
Body Weight: ~110kg
Age: ~25
Experience: Mescaline, 2C-B, Cannabis, LSD, Psilocybin Mushrooms, DXM, Heroin, Cocaine, Various Smart Drugs/Pharms, okay you get the idea...
Mood: Content, Willing

Summary: Well SWIM found some HBWR Seeds and decided to read up. He found that nausea was a common side-effect when (and often a deterrent from) using. He had read that LSA was readily absorbed sublingually, effectively avoiding the nausea associated with swallowing it. For some background on SWIM's demeanor during the day, SWIM had just finished up a good amount of work and was ready to sit back, relax, and increase his Shamanic Portfolio by another notch. SWIM has been to the depths and back, a true Urban Shaman if there ever was one. SWIM wasn't expecting miracles or much at all, to be completely honest, (and the nausea bit had him concerned as well) but SWIM was ready to give LSA a good run. SWIM figured he'd start off slow with 3 seeds. Sublingual absorption, as apposed to actually swallowing them, (SWIM reads) requires 1.5x more dosage-wise than what would be required if you had swallowed them. So this was the equivalent of ~1.5 seeds. Now let's begin.

T+0: Around 11pm SWIM tossed 3 seeds into his mouth and let the seeds soak in his saliva. After a brief soak they softened up a bit and he got a good chew on. Soaked for a minute or so they were easily chewed and mashed in his teeth, eagerly grinding away at a slow pace. They had a very light flavor, not unlike that of corn chips + peanuts. It wasn't unpleasant nor was it tasty. SWIM gladly let them soak in his mouth, swirling the mixture around his cheeks and tongue. After 30 minutes of complete exposure to his favorite oral orifice (haha) SWIM spat the relatively clear mixture, omit the presence of small seed grit, into a cup for examination and disposal. He then laid back on his mattress, clicking away on his laptop, ready for a new experience. He settled on a few episodes of The Office and happily began waiting.

T+45 Minutes: We're definitely above baseline. SWIM didn't know exactly what to expect right away, but there's definitely a body-load feeling that resembles LSD. Not the full 'metallic' feeling of Lucy, but "LiSA" definitely was taking a grip. SWIM likes it so far.

T+1 Hour: SWIM is getting pretty high. Definitely relaxed, stretched-out on his mattress, laughing away at The Office playing on his laptop. Enjoying himself, he decides to pop 3 more HBWR seeds into his mouth. He chews them up as before and 20 minutes later spits the mixture into a cup. It has the same properties as the last mush.

T+1.5 Hours: Wow, SWIM is very pleased. +2 on the Shulgin scale. SWIM couldn't get up if he wanted to (well if he really had to) and he doesn't care one bit. What an excellent body buzz! Definitely the 'metallic' body-load of LSD but lighter. There's light halos around certain objects, colors are softer, and the lines patterning the fake woodgrain paneling in his room are changing slightly and shifting direction. Man, what a great body buzz! The episodes of The Office playing on his laptop are freaking hilarious! Not like "omfg why is this so funny??" but just simply "very funny." SWIM has been in laughing fits on 2-CB that absolutely defied reason, but this is just funny. Funnier than normal he must say. In any case things have a "light" aspect to them. SWIM isn't completely careless, but he's definitely uninhibited and enjoying every minute of it.

T+2 Hours: Still going at around a +2 on the Shulgin Scale. Cannabis rolled in a cigarillo is very nice. SWIM gets a phone call from a pretty girl and now sees why everyone says LSA has a mild "MDMA-like" lovey feeling. It's true. SWIM is truly intoxicated but his judgment remains intact. The conversation is slow and low-toned in SWIM's voice. It's just a relaxed, happy conversation where SWIM is elaborating about the same content as read above. She makes him smile as she nicknames the LSA "Lisa." Seems very fitting and the new nomenclature is adopted proudly. What a girl! SWIM jokes a bit with the girl on the phone and has a general feeling a well-being, coupled with light to very-light visuals. SWIM hangs up promising to talk to her the next day and explain further his experience. What a great conversation. It lifted SWIM's mood even further. He happily chomps on 2 more HBWR seeds for a grand total of 8. Buy the ticket, take the ride.

T+3 Hours: The last hour was filled with nice body-buzz and some intricate patterns emerging translucently upon SWIM's ceiling and walls. Halos are increasing and there's some interesting foreplay between his eyes and the open-air filling the gap between himself and objects around the room. Didn't get much passed a +2 but SWIM definitely was not in Kansas anymore.

T+4 Hours: SWIM has drifted off to sleep, "straight blown" if he can coin a phrase, happily impressed by his first experience with LSA. No dreams that SWIM remembers. What a great little ride. Definitely worth it.

The Morning After: SWIM woke up around 10:30am and feels pretty good. A bit of cannabis cures his usual morning nausea and he feels good about his experience in total. He'd like to try more and see how deep this rabbit hole goes. There was absolutely no nausea during the trip or abnormal nausea the morning after. No headaches, body aches, or depression. Recommended so far, we'll have to see what higher doses have to say. These could prove quite useful to an Urban Shaman such as SWIM. He's going to be taking 8 seeds all at once sublingually and see where he goes. He'll be reporting later.

Thanks for reading! <3<3=D

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Nice report, freqsoft :).

That's the way I do HBWR - chew for half an hour or so and sup the juice. Produces a far more enjoyable and comfortable trip for sure. At least I find it that way. Also, the way you describe the experience itself resonates with me - very familiar. I've always chewed quite a few more seeds than that cos I loves 'em and have managed to extend it to a good 24 hours with judicious redosing. Tis a lovely thing :).

Not that I would advise others to do so, naturally :).

PS: I would imagine that a post like this would be more suited to Trip Reports - I enjoyed reading it and can relate :).
 
Thanks Shambles :)

Is there any information on how intense the effects get exponentially which each seed after 9? (used sublingually). It sounds like SWIM had eventually developed into a sublingual ~9 seed trip gradually instead of all at once. It was very enjoyable but pressing ones luck has never been a problem before. Why stop now? :D SWIM would like to see the next plateau of this substance. What would be the next stepping stone seed-wise if you could comment hypothetically?
 
great report, ive been wanting to try this for a long time, maybe now ill finally push myself to do so...
 
Hey bro, gonna shft this to the Trip Reports forum ;) You will want to remove the references to SWIM; its not needed on BL, and is discouraged. Anyway, nice read man- shfting across...
 
nice report.
only 2 more days before i down some hbwr myself.
gaaaaah, i cant wait
 
Thanks NeuroDr, swilow, and Mr. White! Is anonymity implied with every post? Not sure why using terminology like SWIM is discouraged but rules are rules.

Additional reseach: LSA/HBWR is definitely recommended. At least in the dosages specified. 9 seeds were administered sublingually last night and the effects were very pronounced merely 45 minutes after swilling the mush in one's mouth. 9 seeds all at once was no mistake at all, however one was a bit concerned since he had tried 8 seeds gradually over a few hours the day before. But without much hesitation the 9 seeds were soon working their magic inside one's mouth. The body-load/buzz came on strong and was very enjoyable. This lethargic, intoxicated, yet very comforting feeling was nice. After 3 more hours the visuals started to get more intense. A frame-by-frame animation was very entertaining on one's ceiling. The visuals were at about 5% opacity and definitely were occurring a bit stronger than the night before. This chemical is fantastic! About an hour later one noticed that there was this 'feeling' that had come about. It was a feeling that was creeping up the sides of one's temporal lobes and settled inside 2 centers. These centers we're positioned in what one would assume is the center of each hemisphere of one's brain. This is of course just an interpretation. The 'feeling' was waving. It would get more intense then subside. Then it would return, then ebb out of one's head. It was almost the feeling anxiety. You know that 'coming-up' jitters that is more excitement than anxiousness, but still fun to experience? Yeah that's the one. Quickly realizing that there is more to this substance, one enjoyed the flow of this new 'feeling' that had arisen and easily relaxed into a deep sleep about a half hour later.

The next morning one felt a bit lethargic still but after finally getting the strength to get out of bed, the energy finally returned. Overall, this definitely worth the time of every psychonaut. Start low and increase slowly until the effects are at the desired level. This could DEFINITELY be used as sleep-aid, aphrodisiac, mood elevator, and intoxicant. Once again, there was NO NAUSEA with sublingual administration! This is ideal!

Now, wondering what effects 15 seeds at once would produce, one has the feeling there will soon be another addendum to this thread soon enough. Summation: LSA ftw! <3

Thanks again for reading!
 
a question for the OP: did you swallow the saliva that accumulated while you had the seeds in your mouth? or did you just swish it around?

i'm very interested in a nausea-minimizing method of using HBWR since i like the effects but find the body load close to intolerable (when i chew and swallow that is).

thanks for the report!
 
Snailman you just swish it around dude. You need like 30-50% more seeds but it does help with some of the tummy upset.
 
a question for the OP: did you swallow the saliva that accumulated while you had the seeds in your mouth? or did you just swish it around?

i'm very interested in a nausea-minimizing method of using HBWR since i like the effects but find the body load close to intolerable (when i chew and swallow that is).

thanks for the report!

Do not swallow the saliva. Let it accumulate even if you have to purse your lips closed to keep all the saliva in. 30 mins of swishing will do just fine. :) Cheers!
 
Yeah, sublingual HBWR is fantastic, isn't it? :) That reminds me, it's now next up in my list of future trips. There's been discussion in PD recently about the acetaldehyde in peppermint extract, when comnbined with the LSAs, changes into LAH, which is different/superior. Then againb, the experience is beautiful as-is. :)

SWIM is discouraged because it makes posts annoying and awkward to read, and it doesn't actually do anything to protect anyone. If the police are checking out your Internet communication they're going to figure out that you're not talking about "someone who isn't me". I mean, really, the idea that using SWIM would protect you at all is kind of silly, when you think about it. Or at least that's how we see it here. :)

Finally, great report! I really enjoyed it, and clearly it has inspired me to experiment further in the near future!
 
Just reading about you chewing the seeds gives me nausea, haha. Bad Throw up session last time I did LSA. :(
 
Yeah, sublingual HBWR is fantastic, isn't it? :) That reminds me, it's now next up in my list of future trips. There's been discussion in PD recently about the acetaldehyde in peppermint extract, when comnbined with the LSAs, changes into LAH, which is different/superior. Then againb, the experience is beautiful as-is. :)

SWIM is discouraged because it makes posts annoying and awkward to read, and it doesn't actually do anything to protect anyone. If the police are checking out your Internet communication they're going to figure out that you're not talking about "someone who isn't me". I mean, really, the idea that using SWIM would protect you at all is kind of silly, when you think about it. Or at least that's how we see it here. :)

Finally, great report! I really enjoyed it, and clearly it has inspired me to experiment further in the near future!

Thanks Xorkoth! Thanks also for elaborating on the SWIM issue. I understand and will comply. I was just curious as to exactly why and you've made it crystal clear. LSA is definitely a prize on it's own, however thanks to your post we may have to check out some peppermint extract in the near future. :D
 
I always ate the damn seeds. I stopped because I hated the sickness associated with eating them.

I wonder if there are some ways we could increase the efficiency of sublingual usage? Like perhaps grinding the seeds to a powder and putting them in ones mouth, or soaking the seed powder in alcohol (but not too much to burn the hell out of your mouth)? What do you guys think?
 
Nice report! LSA for me would be a vastly superior drug if I could sleep 4 hours after consumption...so jealous, effects usually last 8 hours and its at least another 4 hours after the effects wear off before I can sleep - even then its a very restless sleep.

I'm not game to try to the sublingual method, HBWR would honestly be the worst tasting thing I have ever tasted.
 
I'm not game to try to the sublingual method, HBWR would honestly be the worst tasting thing I have ever tasted.

Really? Some people say that... to me it barely tastes like anything. It's not good but it's definitely not bad... it's a bit nutty and planty. It's not bitter or anything.
 
Nice report man :)

Makes me want to get back into Psychedelics and LSA sounds really enjoyable. Much more relaxing and much less head-fudging.
Thanks for the sublingual tip too :)
 
Really? Some people say that... to me it barely tastes like anything. It's not good but it's definitely not bad... it's a bit nutty and planty. It's not bitter or anything.
Different strains perhaps? I've never seen anyone able to chew on the ones I have for more than 30 seconds.
 
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