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Has weed fucked you/anyone you know up?

Thanks for the couple replies. I know loneliness only makes sense from a low level biological perspective of thought, and girls arn't everything. Like, I know these things but I still struggle to be happy when I'm not really baked. I've gotten laid recently it didn't help. I want a girlfriend, or just constant sex cause of the hormones. When I'm stoned I'm chill, when I'm off weed I'm manic and depressed, and I'm unsure if I can go back to that. Actually I don't even think I'm manic, I'm just so used to being so darn chilled out all the time that I can't go back. This year I've cut back drastically and I am certainly seeing improvements though. I still scare myself when I haven't smoked for a bit, I tend to get so fucking depressed for a little bit. I doubtless have some kind of mood disorder, my emotions swing like crazy when I'm not baked. It's rediculous, I have way too much energy and I'm prone to rant without some weed in me. I am smarter in ways when I'm stoned, but dumber in other ways. If I was baked this might be a one line post that does better at getting a point across. I'm just way too intense for me to handle.
 
Floating Zebra said:
3 years and nothing but good. It causes anxiety if you allow it to; if you don't think negative and are happy and positive minded, weed is just the same. I'd think it quite a set and setting drug.
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I completely disagree, I've tried this and even when smoking in a good mood its even generated anxiety...its not always for everyone and sometimes its completely out of their control.
 
It's sad because most people can get away with smoking at least 2-3 times a week with minimal side effects for a long time. For me, once a week is my max, and even then I see horrible side effects especially anxiety/depression the following few days after getting high. Guess I have a little bitch brain or something.

I think I might need to cut down to once every two weeks. I am a big fan of old school hip hop music (Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Camp Lo, Tribe Called Quest, Nas etc.) and quitting completely would pretty much destroy the art and poetry form that I appreciate 10000x more when I'm high.
 
Also I might add that a lot of Weed's influence that came from Bob Marley, the Beatles, early 80-90's rappers was when weed had much lower thc levels.

Like the shit that Bob Marley was smoking was straight up schwag 5% THC *AT MOST*

I have seen pictures of Jamaican cannabis and hippie weed from the 60's-90's and the shit looked straight up dirt and was obviously less potent.

The drug we are dealing with now is completely different, swollen fat buds at 20% THC levels and kids at age 16-17 are taking down whole blunts of that, almost everyday.

I would imagine that if we were smoking the 5% shit from back in the day, and occasionally at most, we probably would not have this problem (anxiety, paranoia, depression etc.)
 
I wouldn't say it's had any adverse affects that should not have been expected.
The only affect that I can really pin on marijuana is that it made me rather lazy, after long periods of heavy daily use my room ended up a mess and my marks slipped. However, I was depressed at the time and I suppose marijuana does not deserve the full blame for this.
 
I introduced my friend Craig to weed about 2 years ago and feel really guilty about it. He was really smart and was good at programming computers and really had a lot of potential. Now he's so anxious and is unmotivated that he can't hold down a job and is always high, either on weed or whatever new variety of spice the local headshop has. He smokes instead of dealing with his problems, so he's lost a few jobs and his apartment and is kind of a drifter... He very well may be homeless very soon. For those that say weed is benign or harmless, I'd say for the most part you're right, but some people just aren't mentally stable enough to use it in a responsible way.

On another, more short term note, I'm currently dealing with a MONSTER of a headache from thc withdrawal. I've smoked heavily for about a year now and have had to go the past few days without it (I'm visiting the family, who think I don't smoke anymore, and couldn't/didn't want to bring any with me.) I don't remember the withdrawal being this bad the last time I had to quit, but then again I smoke way more heavily than I used to.
 
I dont know anyone that it has completely fucked up but i do know this. In my experience weed is a drug that can fuck with you like an addiction. I dont smoke no more cuz i just fuckin hate it. Its too overated. It made me lazy (not goin to gym), not give a shit about most things. Shit ive got a lot of pothead friends and i mean ya kno there not addicted cuz its weed but yoou see these motherfuckers up at like 3 in the mornin scrapin fuckin res off their peice to get a hit.

Now that some junky shit right there.
 
Yea, weed is extremely psychologically addictive. Whenever I go to the dispensaries here in California, in the smoking lounges its the same potheads there trying to bum hits from the other patients who are medicating.

Also, I noticed whenever me and my buddies walk around in a park or whatever, they always pick up or kick little zips or baggies they see on the grass to see if there is any bud in there. I also have a friend who would constantly look at the ground when we walked in this hippie park to see if he could spot any unfinished roaches.
 
I have a comment to leave here, definately..

Well i guess i have to write something here about my smoking history first. Well ended up smoking weed in year 2007 or 2006 ( not weekly, daily ). So now 5-6 years later, i still smoke almost daily but not fiending for it anymore like i used to..
Like someone here said it feels overrated, specially when you smoke from the point when you wake up to the end of the day. In my opinion it does kill my motivation allmost entirely and it feels bad man.
"yoou see these motherfuckers up at like 3 in the mornin scrapin fuckin res off their peice to get a hit." <-- well i was dat motherfucker like year ago.. Smoking dirty fucking tar from the bong if i didn't have nuggets to smoke on. Im an astmatic too so i have some really fucked-up health-issues from the daily bong-smoking-addiction (that i still have), When i toke now-a-days i get these terrible chest pains and spitting tar when i wake up.
Anxiety-attacks & anxiety disorders arent new to me either..
Well, i guess that the only way from this point is UP. : ) Used to give myself a too hard time for this everything.. but im more happy now than i used to.

Yours sincerely
Moe
 
Yo Chee$e. You PMed me, I tried to PM back but your box is full. I spend too much time writing you to let it go to waste, so Ima post the message here.

Well, here's the thing. When weed ruined my life, I was smoking it from the moment I woke up int the morning, to the moment I went to bed at night. Well, not literally, I mean I didn't have a joint in my hand that whole time. But what I mean is, I remained stoned throughout the day. I'd smoke up as soon as I woke up, then go back to bed. When I woke up again, I'd smoke up again. Then I'd smoke again after lunch, the before dinner, then after dinner, etc. I mean it was common for me to get high 6 times in one day. One day I got high fourteen times. That's all i did in those days. I'd either skip class or go to class stoned. When class ended, I'd smoke a joint. My brain just could not take that level of assault from cannabinoids and the way it reacted was devastating panic attacks. But I loved weed so much, I loved the high, I LOVED LOVED LOVED the way it made music sound just like you and I loved the way it allowed me to look at things differently. I mean, I am an IV heroin addict now and I must admit, that heroin has never been as fun or enjoyable to me as cannabis was. So I continued to smoke weed despite the horrible panic attacks that would befall me.

So anyway, because of the fact that you say you smoke once per week (thus giving body mind and soul time to recover) and I smoked multiple times every day (never giving myself time to recover) it's very hard to compare our situations. Generally speaking, I would not think that smoking once per week could do much harm. On the other hand, it is not normal to experience panicky/anxious symptoms for a week after a big session, especially if you only smoke once per week.

But here is the thing. All you have to do is listen to your body, or in this case, your mind. In order for weed to damage me, I had to ignore SO MANY warning signs that I was smoking too much. I mean, the panic attacks themselves were a huge red flag. But I was so addicted I just kept on smoking. So the point here, is that youre not going to be fine one day, smoke weed and then wake up the next day with your life ruined. No, you will KNOW that you are smoking too much and hurting yourself. The thing is, because I was told that weed was harmless by so many people, I ignored all the signs my body gave me about how harmful it was to smoke that much because I was convinced everything wou;d go back to nomral when I stopped. Since you have the warning that it may not all go back to normal, or at least, it may take a very long time (several years), you should be able to follow the signs that your body gives and avoid a catastrophe like I faced.

I dont know when i posted that, but I should tell you it has now been 6 and a half years since I smoked my last joint and I am MUCH MUCH better now. The anxiety did go away. It took about 4 and a half years. Unfortunately, I became addicted to alcohol, benzodiazepines and eventually heroin so my struggles are far from over. Ive kicked the alc and benz but am still hooked on the H. But thats another story.

Peace be with you.

Oh, byw, you might want to consider other ways to enjoy yourself than smoking drugs. Drugs are fun but they cause an imbalance i n the body.
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Chee$e said:
It's sad because most people can get away with smoking at least 2-3 times a week with minimal side effects for a long time. For me, once a week is my max, and even then I see horrible side effects especially anxiety/depression the following few days after getting high. Guess I have a little bitch brain or something.

I think I might need to cut down to once every two weeks. I am a big fan of old school hip hop music (Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Camp Lo, Tribe Called Quest, Nas etc.) and quitting completely would pretty much destroy the art and poetry form that I appreciate 10000x more when I'm high.
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Are you not anxious or depressed before getting stoned?

I had horrible anxiety and depression before starting cannabinoids. I'd never go off of them now. =D

BURN OUT: I loved your story man. I like IV heroin but sex is more enjoyable, therefore it's easy for me to go without heroin, and I don't really find it addictive anymore. I don't even mind being on IM buprenorphine most of the time.

I agree with what you said. Now that I look back at my life, I really see cannabis as a harmless drug for myself. But I can see how it can harm other people now.
 
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@burn out.

Good to read your story, after 7 years of multiple daily weed smoking then moving on to synthetics I must say cannaboinds fucked me up too, I ended up getting panic attacks and a great deal of depersonalization everytime I smoked spice/weed, but continued to smoke anyway because it's something I truely grown to love, I couldn't get my mind around the fact I had overdone it, weed couldn't harm me right? Yet I thought and felt like I was going to die everytime I smoked but continued to as it was something ingrained in my personality. I even continue to smoke now, but moderate my use to once a week-ish, and only smoke outdoor weed and only have a small amount. The panic attacks are subsiding, but it's something that can allways strike when I least expect it :(
 
Hey burn out, your old self sounds like me. I smoke it from morning til night, do everything baked, 2 joints in the morning as one doesn't do it anymore. I have experienced many warning signs as well, aka feeling like I'm going to die when I'm baked but I love it and can't stop. Even though it makes me a zombie I can't stop. I'm still active and do all sorts of stuff but I'm a zombie - invisible to girls, dazed in my own little world. My anxiety goes down to a comfortable level shortly after I quit though.

Chee$e I do the same when I'm out. I frequent common smoke spots for old roaches to smoke in my pipe, get so excited about it when I find them. My well trained eye does not miss the inspection of one cigarette butt, or empty sandwich baggie=D. Everywhere I go I do this. I will wander around for hours searching for them, cause my brain is too burnt to function without weed anyways.

It's just ingrained in my personality, and my social life as well. I associate it with good times, even though it just makes me retarded.

I only ever smile when I'm really stoned and I have more weed to smoke.

Here I am at 9am, having a nice stiff glass rum with my morning oats. Like 5 shots worth, getting drunk as fuck today, since yesterday I threw away my pipe, papers, and lighters. I now have none of those onerous weed related things that I feel the need to carry with me wherever I go, which is liberating in a way. That fucking pipe allows me to scrounge weed remnants to unheard of levels, keeping me addicted in periods of drought. Another thing I do is I smoke my empty resin filled pipe. I smoke the hell out of it, getting whatever i can and hoping I will at least exhale a small visible amount of smoke. I don't get high but I still do this.

I also get very depressed coming off the stuff, I have problems and if I didn't have them this might not be so much of an issue. It's gotta be receptor downregulation, burnout or something too though because I'm literally incapable of being my normal, energetic self. And I want to die, it's no mild depression. I've cut myself and shit. The one time I was successful in a 3 months break, I was drunk for the first week. I'm not sure when, but at some point I noticed I could be happy again, and other positive changes. There is no point in me being alive right now except to see the next day, my life is just a fight against this evil spirit I am possessed by that fiends weed and sucks the life out of me, so I shall be good and drunk for a while to make the transition smoother, and I'm not a regular alcohol abuser so this is cool. An occasional bender is cool in my books, anyway. Weed fucked me up maybe a million times worse mentally than a lot of alcohol. If there was ever a time for a bender, it is now.

This stuff turns me into such a bitch. The tone of my voice when I'm on it is so gentle, passive, faded. Girls can sense the weakness, I don't consider myself a man anymore. I'mclearly not much of a man because I am sexually inactive. I don't know what I am. Burnout is probably the best description, although I would say I am pretty much a junkie. I'm choosing not to live.

I abused Mdma in the past because of this, that's why I loved it so much Ican't communicate with people as a stoner unless I'm very drunk and/or on Mdma. I needed it to go out and have fun and for girls to notice me. I never would have done it so much otherwise, I took it for 4 days in a row, every weekend for ages etc. Even the damage that did to me is negligible compared to how weed has ruined my brain and I haven't used in a year so I've been through the repercussions. And trust me, I was very, very high on good Mdma. Flying. I know what I'm like when I'm off pot, I'm confident I don't require any hard chemicals

I am drunk and very enthusiastic tho this is the best way to get through these miserable days. Weed is the worst thing that ever happened to me Rant complete
 
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Captain.Heroin said:
Are you not anxious or depressed before getting stoned?

I had horrible anxiety and depression before starting cannabinoids. I'd never go off of them now. =D
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To answer your question, I was never anxious or even knew what the hell anxiety even was before I started weed. I was a basketball athlete in high school, swimmer, and never even drunk or smoked.

Then the whole Wiz Khalifa thing got big in my high school a few years ago and I started smoking because everyone (and I mean EVERYONE, like even freshman little white girls) were smoking it.

It took about a year or two for it to happen, smoking about once a week, but I would sometimes smoke up to 4 times a week on holiday vacations breaks with no school etc.

Anyways, its weird because weed caused my anxiety but also cures it. It makes me anxious when I'm sober off of it, even up to 4 months after not smoking it, but after I take a hit of a mellow indica strain, my anxiety does not exist anymore. This is why I think it is a dangerous drug, it is so fucking unpredictable, my anxiety shoots out of no where when I start smoking, then it starts to mask my anxiety when I am high again. Also, I live in California and I have never smoked laced or done any other drug, I only smoke outdoor/indoor California weed.
 
An occasional bender is cool in my books, anyway. Weed fucked me up maybe a million times worse mentally than a lot of alcohol. If there was ever a time for a bender, it is now.
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Me too. I used to be an alcoholic. When I quit drinking, the main thing was craving alcohol. But other than that, there weren't any major negative effects on me mentally, except m,aybe some anxiety, mild depression and insomnia. But nothing compared to what weed did to me mentally. Overall, alcohol kills a lot more people than weed, so I am not saying weed is worse. But it is definitely worse for your mind. You can mess up your mind so much more quickly from overdoing weed than you can overdoing alcohol.
 
I have always had social anxiety. If I go out for a social situation stoned... bad news. If I show up at the same social situation sober and then smoke an hour after I arrive... good to go. Very strange, but that is how it is for me. I have noticed, though, that I have LESS anxiety than I did when I was 10 years old when I am sober. I can talk to pretty girls with little problem like... "wow, I just said that poignantly instead of all jilted and non-linear like I would if I were stoned"
Eye contact is easier for me now that I have been a stoner... but only when sober. I have a hard time walking along a street alone just because of the people that are driving by me in cars being able to see me! But only when stoned. When stoned, my vocabulary isn't as good as it should be. When sober I constantly impress myself. I can't paint stoned at all. It doesn't even help for inspiration, when I go out to paint graffiti, it is a nerve racking experience anyway so I always make sure I do not smoke for at least 6 hours before I go out. If I go out stoned I go around all night looking at spots, feeling my heart bumping out my chest and not painting anything. When I am sober, it is actually kind of scary. I can climb high (I am scared of heights) and paint in very risky places. I also notice that my paintings always get done faster and look way better when I am sober.
It is great because I have dabbled in other hard drugs but nothing really stuck (got addicted to opiates after a broken shoulder for a while) but for years from the end of high school up until a few years ago I was searching for the right drug, the one that I was searching for was sobriety. I still smoke a lot of pot, but, I really embrace sobriety now.

All that being said... and this IS a chicken or egg situation. Just before christmas this year my sister was admitted to a psych ward. She has been smoking non stop since she was 13-14 and is now 27. She did take a lot of acid around 15-16 years. She has had 1 or 2 more psychotic fits since she was admitted to the hospital, but, it is not schizophrenia, we know that for sure now. Manic depression (bipolar) is what she has been diagnosed with. She has ALWAYS been a person that can do a 180 from happy to furious in a matter of seconds. I have heard of heavy cannabis use being linked to bringing out schizophrenia early in people but, I feel that is maybe a chicken or egg situation too. Of course that is hard to say. Do drugs cause illness, or do people with underlying illness gravitate towards drugs? That being said, my whole immediate family is about the weed and really nothing else. My mom, dad, sister and myself played around with drugs when we were teenagers but, nothing stuck for any of us but the weed. My mother and father have never been admitted to a psych ward. My grandmother has but she has been all good for more than 50 years. Since learning all of this I have renounced psychedelic use, but, that was over for me anyhow. Pot will stay. I do not think I know anyone who has been harmed by their pot use that they wouldnt have allowed to happen anyway.
 
Alcohol kills way more bodies, and is definately worse for society but in terms of my life, weed is killing my happiness and ability to function, booze isn't.

It find it relatively easy to recover from abusing the fuck out of weed, though abusing alcohol might fuck you up more long term. But smoking all this weed for so long makes it long term, cause I can't stop.

I'm sticking with the psychedelics personally, they do everything that weed does for me and more without the addiction and side effects. Honestly, mushrooms are like weed but they get me far higher and there is no anxiety, addiction or horrible comedown. I'm on a bender for a little bit til my fiending brain calms down.
 
I've got one mate who smokes weed every day and I can't remember the last time I saw him not high (except the once when he was drinking). It's hardly a crack addiction but he's definitely become a lot more paranoid since he started and his girlfriend left him because he kept getting high when/instead of seeing her. So i'd definitely say it has the ability to fuck someone up, in the same way any drug can if it changes from being a fun activity into an addiction.
 
Yeah people dont realize that when I argue that weed is worse. I dont mean that weed is ever going to kill you. Stoners tend to pull up the "weed never killed anyone! argument when I am trying to make my point. But that is not at all what I was trying to get at, I KNOW WEED IS PHYSICALLY LESS TOXIC TO THE BODY THAN ALCOHOL.

Even science agrees with this.

However, in terms of the mental effects THC does to the brain, in comparison to alcohol, it is like 10x WORSE. Weed is extremely insidious and alters the brain chemistry way more than alcohol does. I must agree though that alcohol tastes like shit and I dont enjoy the effects, a weed high is like 10x more enjoyable for me which is why I barely drink.

But I have to come to accept the sad fact that Cannabis is way more detrimental to your brain (not body) than alcohol is. I learned this through experience and observation. My memory is fried even from just using it 1-3 times a week for 6 months, and I am anxious and scared to sometimes smoke stronger strains now, my friends think I am pussy for it and I feel bad for not being able to enjoy stronger more awesome types of weed strains, but risking a panic attack or derealization is not something I want to risk right now. I never have this pre intoxication fear with alcohol, I just jump right into it.
 
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