The other night a couple of my friends decided to roll at my house, on some rolls that tested positive for mdma in marquis, mecke, and mandelin tests. I didn't roll at all, but instead had an 8 hour pretty strange trip. It was one of the strangest trips ive ever had, not super intense though. Everyone had completely different trips, but we all agreed it had an evil intent behind it. It almost felt like the it was malicious like it played evil tricks, really hard to explain, but we all said the same thing when we discussed the trip the next day. No one mentioned it during the trip, so it wasnt just because someone said it. Didnt feel like any psych iver ever had (lsd, shrooms, 5-meo-dipt, 4-aco-dmt). Idk what it was, and im not asking what I took because I know its impossible for anyone to know, but i am wondering if anyone has ever felt psychedelics to be "evil".
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Has anyone come across a psych that feels "evil"?
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What's more baffling is a psychedelic that would test positive for MDxx on three seperate tests :S
I've never taken a psych that felt evil, but I've had experiences that certainly bring evil imagery to the experience. It's uncommon for me to trip without coming across vicious scorpions, rotting bodies, demons trapped in floor tiles or some sort of bizarre dark imagery.
But imagery is all it ever is. The only time I've ever FELT evil with psychs, was when I smoked DMT and felt a dark presence in my house and also decided my computer was evil when I came back to reality.
I've never taken a psych that felt evil, but I've had experiences that certainly bring evil imagery to the experience. It's uncommon for me to trip without coming across vicious scorpions, rotting bodies, demons trapped in floor tiles or some sort of bizarre dark imagery.
But imagery is all it ever is. The only time I've ever FELT evil with psychs, was when I smoked DMT and felt a dark presence in my house and also decided my computer was evil when I came back to reality.
foolsgold
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of late the after glow of mxe has felt very evil till my last gram which was so insane i think the evil entity had to smile , lsd can feel very evil the devil its self when it goes bad , like making you believe you are dying then dead then see your dead gran pushing things up n down the corridor of hospital before fighting for your soul with devils n angels lol that was a very mad night
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I think that for a psychedelic to feel "evil", you have to be in an "evil" state of mind. Maybe it's just me, but most psychedelics act as a "mirror" and I don't think it's fair to condemn a specific chemical as "evil", it's just your mind.
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plusfourpirate
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did you send them in/ test them yourself? is it possible they could have been a different batch?
also just bd they tested positive for mdma doesnt mean thats all that was in them..right?
idk man theres just no such thing as mdma that lasts for 8hrs and feels evil.. there had to be something else in those pills..
got any left by chance? maybe you could send one in to get more extensively tested
i dont wanna speculate too much on what was in them as its against the rules and counterproductive nonetheless, but its possible that there are pierazines present in them. ive had rolls that were copycats of pure ones that were mainly bzp and some other pipes, and that stuff does have an unfriendly, eerie feel to me..esp when youre expecting a lovey dovey warm feeling..just a thought.
shpongle1987
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DXM if you do it too much.
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Mushrooms has produced some of the darkest imagery i've ever seen, but as with all psychedelics the general feeling of the experience is usually a direct result of your state of mind in conjunction with your environment. For example in my situation i was out in the forest at psychedelic party and every now and then someone decides it'll be a great idea to play dubstep; now for me this music on mushrooms sounded very fucked up so my imagination created the nastiest filthiest imagery you could imagine and drenched it in extreme gore.. it was the visual representation of how i imagined the music to look like. I was more in awe that i was capable of producing such vile imagery then i was afraid of what was happening..
On the flipside, good music, good environment and comfortable mindstate and your literally bathing in white light and bliss..
On the flipside, good music, good environment and comfortable mindstate and your literally bathing in white light and bliss..
i have felt alot of substances evil at times but i think it has to do mainly with set&setting not the substance itself... but maybe the purely evil one is chloroform 3 out of the 4 times i have tried it its like satan puts you in his pinball machine and goes beserk :D
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Sounds something akin to piperazines? Not sure how they fair on marquis, but people get pretty strange trips off them. I remember my friend having to leave a party because it looked like she was in a dolls house.
I think the most unnerving part was that several of the people were hearing voices. I didn't get this, but some of my friends said it was like someone talking right in their ears. Also a lot of weird sound distortions like people's voices were drowned out to the point of not hearing them.
I tested them and yeah obviously wasn't MDMA. The dealer guessed that it was MDMA/2ci but I've never heard of that in a roll. I've never had pipes so idk what those actually feel like, this seemed a bit more trippy than what I've read about pipes. It felt a little but like that dirty 5-memo-dipt, but with none of the euphoria. I probably will end up sending them in cause I'm extremely curious.
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Not sure if they would count as psy's; Deliriants always feel hostile and dark to me. ie. Dimenhydrinate, Diphenhydramine, Datura etc.
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Surprised no one has mentioned Salvia yet.
All psychedelics I love the they have for me, and all but one are usually a mixture of bliss, extreme confidence boost, and outside the box thinking coupled with some intriguing visuals. Different "personalities" though to each.
Salvia however, has the personality of a manipulative yet alluring woman who solely desires to fuck with your mind.
Only had two opportunities to use it. Only the first was worth remembering.
I took my hits... and at the 3rd hit, all of a sudden the pipe kept filling with smoke constantly and I kept breathing in and breathing it out and it wouldn't end.
After doing this for several times at least (gold fish memory had kicked in) I finally realized what was going on... the smoke was a hallucination of sorts, and I got the overwhelming sensation that the a female entity representing the universe was just outside my peripheral vision laughing silently. A feeling like the whole universe was playing a practical joke on me.
I definitely want to try Salvia again, but no opportunities have presented yet when the time was right.
However if a psychedelic could have an "evil" personality... Salvia is as close as I know of personally.
Edit: Of course deliriants probably fit the bill too if you consider them along side classic (or atypical in Salvia's case) psychedelics. If you've read Don Juan books, Datura is represented as a scary power female.
All psychedelics I love the they have for me, and all but one are usually a mixture of bliss, extreme confidence boost, and outside the box thinking coupled with some intriguing visuals. Different "personalities" though to each.
Salvia however, has the personality of a manipulative yet alluring woman who solely desires to fuck with your mind.
Only had two opportunities to use it. Only the first was worth remembering.
I took my hits... and at the 3rd hit, all of a sudden the pipe kept filling with smoke constantly and I kept breathing in and breathing it out and it wouldn't end.
After doing this for several times at least (gold fish memory had kicked in) I finally realized what was going on... the smoke was a hallucination of sorts, and I got the overwhelming sensation that the a female entity representing the universe was just outside my peripheral vision laughing silently. A feeling like the whole universe was playing a practical joke on me.
I definitely want to try Salvia again, but no opportunities have presented yet when the time was right.
However if a psychedelic could have an "evil" personality... Salvia is as close as I know of personally.
Edit: Of course deliriants probably fit the bill too if you consider them along side classic (or atypical in Salvia's case) psychedelics. If you've read Don Juan books, Datura is represented as a scary power female.
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I partially agree, though I think that certain psychedelics have greater tendencies to put the user in a "evil" state of mind. For me, 2C-E would accomplish this. MXE also has this effect to some degree, although I wouldn't consider it a traditional psychedelic. Salvia I don't find know if I'd classify as evil. It's definately serious and not fun, but I'm getting more neutral vibes than evil vibes, like umm... a super strict school principal who only wants your best, not to harm you. LSD, DMT and shrooms are more on the "good" side for me, LSD leaning a bit more to the neutral than shrooms and DMT. Though that does not mean LSD or mushies can't produce a dark and evil trip, they're just less likely to do that than certain other substances.
Not all dubstep gives me dark vibes but I watched this on 2C-E the other day and I was really not in a good place! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeWXGy8Uack
Jakeperson
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The general consensus among DOI users here in the DOI capital is that it is quite dark or evil.
rocknroll702
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ive gotten a evil sense on mushrooms ate some once and these kids starting reading bible verses -- then i got bailed out by some friends that were all twacked out unfortunately and on the way to dennys i thought i had a choice of going home or with them and home is live them is die - anyways long story short all the lights on the way to eat were flashing red/--out very bizarre but most likely just a coincidence.. then there was 4 k9 cops at dennys at like 4-am then i tried to dine and dash in front of them when i had eaten/ordered nothing so i was trying to run out for no reason and the emergency exit owuldnt open i walked back to my seat feeling like i had no control over anything it was super sketchy