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Has anyone come across a psych that feels "evil"?

Not sure if it has already been said but...

DPT

Seriously! I only did it once and will never do it again. That stuff was so dark for me.
 
whataboutheforests said:
I think that for a psychedelic to feel "evil", you have to be in an "evil" state of mind. Maybe it's just me, but most psychedelics act as a "mirror" and I don't think it's fair to condemn a specific chemical as "evil", it's just your mind.
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Even chemicals that show me lots of love sometimes do what feels exactly like them forcing visual portrayals of crude sexual, violent, or nasty stuff. It is never stuff I like or entertain at any point either, I am not an angel but I would rather not think about bizzare "seducing" women or gays, decapitation, and /or literally dirty stuff.

I know that all sound weird as hell and I can't explain it either, 99% of the moments of my trips are unrealistically optimistic. Things like this only really pop up on high doses of dissociatives, and animated sequences usually include dissociatives and psychedelics combined. DMT has never thrown me into such a creepy and evil place, dxm and mxe sometimes do, but DPT has in fact given me hallucinations like this for a brief period that were of the vibe of the things I listed but much milder. 2C-I or 2C-E + K, MXE, or DXM have gotten me into the biggest moments of waiting for the weird shit to end. Nitrous is a catalyst to any of these for this even though it is usually more of a positive mind fuck.

I guess explicitly perverse is an equally fair word for what I am describing, thinking I am dying or feeling fear might be considered evil by some, but those never get gross.

abstrakt said:
Not sure if it has already been said but...

DPT

Seriously! I only did it once and will never do it again. That stuff was so dark for me.
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The time it got dark for me included a little animation of feds opening fire on peoples faces, then them running off followed by a beehive full of shit and shitty bees.... and then came the rest of my peak after I endured that.

DXM+ 2C-I has definitely given me way creepier hallucinations that actually freaked me out at the time, such as being in a passenger seat at night and watching the console panel roll around 180 degrees only to have another compartment on the other side, it slips open and a melting human head dripping brains is inside. Within a few seconds of staring at it is all gets sucked back in and the panel flips around.
 
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abstrakt said:
Not sure if it has already been said but...

DPT

Seriously! I only did it once and will never do it again. That stuff was so dark for me.
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The time it got dark for me included a little animation of feds opening fire on peoples faces, then them running off followed by a beehive full of shit and shitty bees.... and then came the rest of my peak after I endured that.

DXM+ 2C-I has definitely given me way creepier hallucinations that actually freaked me out at the time, such as being in a passenger seat at night and watching the console panel roll around 180 degrees only to have another compartment on the other side, it slips open and a melting human head dripping brains is inside. Within a few seconds of staring at it is all gets sucked back in and the panel flips around.

I don't know what to say, I am definitely not cheery all the time, not even when tripping, but I always tell these thoughts to gtfo and anything darker than the dpt experience actually can disturb for a little bit. I would maybe entertain the idea of fighting someone I don't like or killing somebody in a situation where it is basically needed for the survival of others, but I don't like feces or corpses and I naturally start frowning as these hallucinations and vibe start to on set.
 
ive experienced what your talking about. in my case the whole "evil/off" feeling, i think, had to do with what the pill was cut with, these days you e=never know whats in a thizzle
 
thedeadlywar said:
DOC at doses like ~10mg is really evil once it starts to get to the stronger part of the trip, often feels like the whole universe is going to explode and you are in total danger, and everything just feels like a great confusing fear bearing down upon you as existance is torn apart not only in your mind, but what feels like in all actuality
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YES. it's awful sometimes. the visuals are super dark feeling and make you sort of skeptical/uncomfortable
 
phantomcosmonaut said:
From what you're describing, I'd say it was a deliriant, probably diphenhydramine (Benadryl), it has a very "evil" feel to it. You're saying the trip was psychedelic though (?), are you sure it wasn't just hallucinogenic? Otherwise it may have been mixed with any sort of MDxx, most likely MDA, although it could have been any one. Could also have just been DXM, or mixed DXM with the others i mentioned, but I'm not sure DXM could be pressed into a pill.
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Nah there's definitely DXM pills about. I'm actually so lucky, being in Aus and having started using pills during the drought, I've only ever had MDxx, a single speed bomb (which sucked) and a bunk, and while bunks suck they beat a pipe any day of the year.

It's been said a million times but mushrooms can have a really weird evil tone to them. Even when nothing is really happening, I have a distinct memory of my windows breathing at me in a really menacing way, and yet I wasn't really tripping THAT hard but there was something about that night that was really bizarre and dark.
 
whynaught said:
I've taken psychedelics that make me feel evil
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LSD and one thing I've tried I'm pretty sure is 4-MEO-PCP, both have given me the "demented" personality at times. Where I laugh randomly, and take pleasure in how twisted my mind has become. Kind of feel similar to the how I'd think the Joker feels.
 
For me, salvia wasn't very evil, I just laughed for 2 minutes straight and annoyed my girlfriend. IME, it's LSD not mushrooms that has the evil overtone. Mushrooms can be a major mindfuck, but mostly just make me giggle and lunch out on lower doses. It's the forced grin and electrical body high on acid that makes me uncomfortable and think about dark things when I'm wired like that
 
imakickassninja said:
YES. it's awful sometimes. the visuals are super dark feeling and make you sort of skeptical/uncomfortable
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Even lower doses of DOC (~5mg) can be pretty dark. Especially when combining with smoking weed, all these angry faces will start popping out at me from all over. And in past experiences, I've been the only one out of my tripping compatriots to see these intense visuals. It makes for an interesting experience, for sure...
 
being an old hippie who has done acid/mesq,/and lots of others, I have found with these types of drugs, you are unable to continue use after so many times.
I've done it all. belive me. I came to the conculsion, that reaching a certain point, you do encourage "other" ways of thinking and infuence's.
I've seen people flip out and others be calm and enjoy. I came to the stop point after going thru what you did. It became a total unejoying thing. and I loved my mesq.
Today, you just do not know what is in your choice. years ago, we had to deal with all sorts of shit in our acid tabs. now it's like you just never know.
for me. I did that, now I'll try this, and then I eventually came to realize I had to stick with things I cantrol, and keep control of.
 
Aetherius Rimor said:
LSD and one thing I've tried I'm pretty sure is 4-MEO-PCP, both have given me the "demented" personality at times. Where I laugh randomly, and take pleasure in how twisted my mind has become. Kind of feel similar to the how I'd think the Joker feels.
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I've experienced the same thing combining MXE and 2c-t-2.
 
Rorthron said:
Ok, just read the whole thread, here's my 2cents

a) not trying to guess what the OP took, but if I was told it was Foxy, I would not be surprised, due to the duration of the trip and the auditory hallucinations (more common in DIPT, but occasionally in 5-MeO-DIPT). Although Foxy is one of my favorite substances ever, sometimes there is a very marked dark feeling to it

b) As for a dark substance, as of the present my vote would be 5-MeO-DMT. I've had marvelous experiences with it, but as of late it seems like the "evil brother of DMT". Darkness in full splendor, I would say.
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I've taken foxy, this was similar but definitely not foxy. Unless it was foxy + mdxx which just made it different.
 
for me salvia wasnt that evil at all. i had a V trip (visionary) on the salvia scale and i thought it was pretty fun.
 
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