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Hardcore morality of todays society, will be our downfall.

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moonyham said:
No its not a wonderful evolutionary adaption if its going to wipe us out :\

I dont have anything personal against someone just because they have AIDS, but really, as sad as it is, they have a disease which needs to be eradicated just as epidemic diseases before it, there is really only one way to get rid of it, and thats kill its hosts or let them die.
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Untrue, I think that at the current rate of progress science should be able to root it out in our lifetime.

And mass genocide on the infirm, the mentally impaired, the casualties of this world . . . well why not kill anybody who does not have pure Ayarn blood while you are at it:|
 
Thats pretty damn wishful thinking of you.. risking millions of lives in the hope that there will be a cure for them later... you better hope you are right because you really are playing with fire.

Oh and i was just thinking how funny it is that someone mentioned how darwin actually renounced his 'Survival of the fittest' when it came to applying it to society. Thing about that is, society is made up of animals too, i mean so what if those animals happen to be human we are still animals. I really dont care if darwin renounced anything... you cant make an awesome movie and then tell everyone 'Umm actually i dont like the movie i made, its shit and it doesnt make sense' to all its fan's... they are still gonna watch the movie whether or not the director is proud of it or whether he advocates it or not.
 
Why?

There´s too many of us anyhow. We are like a virus on the face of this planet. It would be no harm for the worlds population to be devestated.

It just is not our place to do the culling.

Now, if somebody with a horrid disease or handicap wants to die, then help should be provided. But that is an entirely different propositiion.
 
Link me to some of these medical technology breakthroughs as a result of HIV, because they must be numerous no? ;)
 
moonyham said:
Link me to some of these medical technology breakthroughs as a result of HIV, because they must be numerous no? ;)
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A vaccine was developed that strengthens the bodys immune system - http://www.news-medical.net/?id=7057

There have also been many other breakthroughs but I'm sure you're capable of using google to enlighten yourself.

Obviously the major breakthrough some of us would like to see hasn't happened yet, but when it does it could change everything.
Who knows what the future holds?
A miracle medicine that cures all disease could be developed all thanks to aids research.
At the end of the day you dont know, and neither do I.
The Nazi's lost the war. Get over it and enjoy the ride.....
 
You sure care a lot for the future generations of humanity for someone who doesn't want to have children :\

Anyway, you obviously aren't reading (or comprehending) other posts, as people have proposed to you a thousand and one ways to go about it besides yours.


It seems to me you think you've achieved whatever it is you want to achieve by apparently pissing off as many people as possible. Like I told you, this tactic may work in Highschool, but as you can see anywhere a bit a more mature and you'll notice that you're simply not going through to people.

You will simply never get people to agree with you or even see your point of view by striving to annoy them. They will simply swat you off like a fly.

You need to step away from the computer, give whatever drugs you're taking a break, and take a long look in the mirror, because I think you've got a lot to fix about yourself before you start going public with your brilliant eugenics ideas.
 
yeah but your just being overly optimistic... you are hoping that we find a cure, its not a definite thing which for some reason people have got into there heads that 'its just a matter of time'. Its all just 'a matter of time' before we see the majority of our population infected with AIDS.

oh and how about something that is actually a working medical advancement, not some study that 'could' work. Something that has actually been fully developed that helps society and has a positive influence on it that has HIV solely to thank.
 
Yea and suprise suprise jamshyd you avoid any questions i ask but will happily put forward your own. Im not out to annoy or pester, if i wanted to do that i would have gone about it far differently. You just keep avoiding the subject when it boils down to what youd actually do, so why dont you grow some balls and answer the questions? We arent on a stage to be boo'd off, so drop the wall of political correctness BS.
 
moonyham said:
yeah but your just being overly optimistic... you are hoping that we find a cure, its not a definite thing which for some reason people have got into there heads that 'its just a matter of time'. Its all just 'a matter of time' before we see the majority of our population infected with AIDS.
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Yeah but your just being overly pessimistic... you are presuming that everyone will die of AIDS. Its not a definite thing which for some reason people have got into there heads that 'its just a matter of time'. Its all just 'a matter of time' before we see the majority of our population cured of AIDS.
 
Realist, not pessimist.

And again, you guys avoid answering questions. Atleast i give an answer when you guys ask me a Q, i dont just ignore it and pick on a little piece of information from the rest of your post like i could very well do. Whos being ignorant sorry? Whos not 'comprehending what people say'? 8)
 
Um, I already told you what I'd do:

Jamshyd said:
That said, I see no need to annihilate those who are counterproductive. All I know is that I feel pain, and so do they. The only thing each of us can do about it is help each other out, the future of humanity be fucked. Now is more important than tomorrow when it comes to empathy.
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p.s. Assuming everyone on earth will die of AIDS is hardly what I call "realism" 8).
 
Ok so your all for the spread of a disease that causes nothing but suffering and death. I really wish i could be as nice and loving as you! 8)

You say 'it wont happen' and such about AIDS becoming a huge problem.. well thats the exact mentality that got us to where we are, with 32million people infected with it or some outrageously high number. Thanks man, for contributing that to society. You are a real positive influence, quite clearly.

Like i said before, which magic date is it gonna be that everyone on this planet just turns around and says 'ok thats enough, no more spreading of aids now!'??
 
Listen to what you're saying.

You want to stop the death of many by killing many.

Do you see the logical problem here? (no morals involved).
 
No i want to stop the death of MANY for the deaths of a FEW.

huge fucking difference, and no i dont see a logical problem with that, i see a logical solution.

If you have 2 options, 1 is to have 10 people die, the other 30 million, and youve got to pick one or else its left to the flip of a coin - which do you choose? It seems pretty logical to choose the 10 dont you think? Unless of course you like to see more people die than is necessary?
 
ha, good response, but i still think your damn stupid if you believe all the shit you wrote, however, i get the feeling you just want to bring anger out in people and dont even necessarily believe what you write ;)
 
Point out whats stupid, prove why its stupid, and then provide a better 'less stupid' solution to the problems im addressing.

Oh im sure youll have some excuse for not being able to though, probably 'your stupid' or something along those lines amiright? haha
 
The deaths of a "few" by reason of your own judgement? How humble of you.

For me, it boils down to this:

You (mooneyham), like me and everyone else, are just an insignificant little piece of human trash. You are simply NOT big enough to give yourself authority on who lives or dies. If you decide to imagine that you DO have said authority, you turn yourself into a fool as you have done in this thread.

Learn to be humble.

Learn to empathize.

These are not moral things.

And most importantly, take it easy on the coke or whatever you're snorting.
 
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