Guys - do you find it a turn off when girls are catty?

[drugfukkdrockstar]

I mean seriously, it can't at all attractive right? In my opinion, there is no greater turn off than when a female is acting like a complete bitch to another female because they are jealous. Well envious is more the word - women strike for the kill towards other females if they are feeling inferior.

I know a few girls who are incredibly horrid to other girls when they feel they are being out done, so to speak. Well in their minds they are, whether it is the case or not. And it seems as i am getting older, the women i have come across in my time have gotten worse and worse. To the point where they will set out to try in ruin someones life all because they are envious.

I also don't understand how guys will still associate with women like this. Because not all women are actually like this, but it seems the ones that are are just classed as 'typical females' where in my book, that's a cop out. They're insecure bitches and need to be brought to justice!

There is one particular girl who is the younger sister of my boyfriends best mate - i have had to tolerate her rudeness for the last two years and have recently had enough, and told her exactly what i have thought about her recently. I am in a 3 year relationship and very happy and loyal, but as far as she is concerned i apparently would dump my tall dark and handsome boyfriend for her short over weight and bald boyfriend in a flash. This in my opinion is also just as much an insult to my boyfriend, as it is to me. But due to her twisted mentality and insecurities she has almost driven me to insanity. But regardless of how retarded she is, her boyfriend and everyone else just lets her get away with it because she's just a 'typical female' so no one has ever told her off for her nastiness. And now that i have, they're all freaking out that this will tear the whole group apart. WTF? Why do people allow this behavior?

I really wish more guys in this world would tell girls to chill the fuck out when their acting like cows to other females, because it's way too common. I have got to a stage where i don't even wanna be friends with girls anymore because it's just not worth it. They're too touch and go. When you think they're your friend, they're really your worse enemy.

Anyone else relate to this or have anything to contribute?

If not, all good. I still feel better after the rant so thanks for reading if you got this far.

 

[recons]

jealousy is a sin for a reason.

My rule is: fuck drama. If it involves drama, stay away.

 

[quiet roar]

You forget how shallow most guys are.

 

[supertrav77]

Well, here's the damned if you do and damned if you don't situation.

Girls who have no female friends.
I can't trust a girl with no female friends. It's a huge sign of insecurity. They need male acceptance and in general, the acceptance of just one male will never be enough for them in the long run.

Girls who have a lot of female friends.
The problem with dating a girl with a lot of female friends is that you inevitably end up like feeling like you're dating all of her friends. If you're dating a girl with a lot of female friends and said friends don't approve of you, they WILL sabotage your relationship.
And every attractive female has that one less-attractive friend who tries to live vicariously through her hot friend. She can't get the Brad Pitt types. But being best friends with someone who can is as close as she will ever get so she sees to it that her friend date nothing other than Brad Pitt types. Now, you might be a swell guy who's really nice. But fat friend thinks "What a waste that would be! Hell, even I could get a nice guy. My friend needs to be dating all the Brad Pitt types who are hopelessly unobtainable to me!"

But to answer your question DFRS... Between the two, I would take my chances with the girl with female friends.
But when all things are equal, I would go for which ever one is thinner and blonder.

 

[Pillthrill]

Well, here's the damned if you do and damned if you don't situation.

Girls who have no female friends.
I can't trust a girl with no female friends. It's a huge sign of insecurity. They need male acceptance and in general, the acceptance of just one male will never be enough for them in the long run.

Girls who have a lot of female friends.
The problem with dating a girl with a lot of female friends is that you inevitably end up like feeling like you're dating all of her friends. If you're dating a girl with a lot of female friends and said friends don't approve of you, they WILL sabotage your relationship.
And every attractive female has that one less-attractive friend who tries to live vicariously through her hot friend. She can't get the Brad Pitt types. But being best friends with someone who can is as close as she will ever get so she sees to it that her friend date nothing other than Brad Pitt types. Now, you might be a swell guy who
's really nice. But fat friend thinks "What a waste that would be! Hell, even I could get a nice guy. My friend needs to be dating all the Brad Pitt types who are hopelessly unobtainable to me!"

But to answer your question DFRS... Between the two, I would take my chances with the girl with female friends.
But when all things are equal, I would go for which ever one is thinner and blonder.

Can't trust a girl without female friends? what the hell? Could it be that she just understands guys better and hates all the drama that comes with girls?

 

[supertrav77]

Can't trust a girl without female friends? what the hell? Could it be that she just understands guys better and hates all the drama that comes with girls?

What? With every girl? Without exception? She can't find ONE girl to be friends with? Out of the 3+ billion in the world?
C'mon now. Sorry, but I don't buy it.
AT BEST she is sexist and bigoted.
But more likely she is just extremely insecure. And guys are more willing to put up with her bullshit and be less judgemental towards her. But only because they are trying to get into her pants whether she agknowledges it or not.
Either way, no. Can't be trusted.

 

[Pillthrill]

What? With every girl? Without exception? She can't find ONE girl to be friends with?
Sorry, AT BEST she is sexist and bigoted.
Either way, no. Can't be trusted.

I have girls that I CAN get along with, I'm just not really close to them anymore, so I currently don't have any female freinds, I don't think that would mean that I'm completely untrustworthy though.

 

[supertrav77]

I have girls that I CAN get along with, I'm just not really close to them anymore, so I currently don't have any female freinds, I don't think that would mean that I'm completely untrustworthy though.

Answer me this then.
Of all your male friends.
How many of them have unattractiuve female friends?

 

[Pillthrill]

IDK I don't really keep track of their friends.
Are you saying I don't have girl friends because I'm ugly or something?

 

[supertrav77]

Not at all. Just that you get something more than mere "mutual understanding" from one another.
Lemme tell you something, you will never ever ever ever ever ever ever understand guys better than girls.
Ever.
Unless, maybe, you just hang around really shallow guys.

 

[Doppelganger]

There's a few girls that openly acknowledge that they're bitches - these chicks are proud of their reputation, therefore are the most lethal. They're basically applauded for their efforts both by guys and many other women. The only people that don't find them humorous tend to be their victims, and the occasional mature person who finds their behavior idiotic.

Then there's far too many other girl who thinks they're the exception to the rule - they have a "I'm not one of those catty chicks" attitude. "I'm one of the boys."

They're never as unique as they seem to think they are. Ignorant chicks like this are everywhere.

Generally they're just normal girls. They don't have many female friends, not because they're one of the boys, but because they're typical girls who can't take other women casually and build healthy bonds with them. That is vastly different from the male attitude which is constantly trying to build positive relationships with new women . Oh.. and who can also get along effectively with members of their own sex.

 

[Pillthrill]

Not at all. Just that you get something more than mere "mutual understanding" from one another.
Lemme tell you something, you will never ever ever ever ever ever ever understand guys better than girls.
Ever.
Unless, maybe, you just hang around really shallow guys.

idk, I don't understand most women in a lot of ways. Guys I tend to be a little more simple, if they have an issue, they tell you...ya know. There tends to be far less drama in a group of guys, not to say that it can't be there from time to time. But thats all just my opinion, sorry to go off topic.

 

[supertrav77]

idk, I don't understand most women in a lot of ways. Guys I tend to be a little more simple, if they have an issue, they tell you...ya know. There tends to be far less drama in a group of guys, not to say that it can't be there from time to time. But thats all just my opinion, sorry to go off topic.

OK then.
What does it day about someone who prefers the company of simple people? Certainly not flattering to you much less the people whose company you keep.
Does it mean that girls are endlessly complex or that you merely lack the faculties to comprehend them?

 

[Pillthrill]

Not simple as in stupid, hardly. Its just that the relationship is easier. I don't know, perhaps there is something related to my past experiences with women and my own personal behavior (I tend to act a little more male in some ways) that has made it difficult for me. But I don't think that calls for rejection on the part of others....

 

[Doppelganger]

^ I assume by easier you mean less intimidating?

I don't know who said it, but it was someone on the board:

"People like people who like them..."

It's a sad world when we're too afraid to like each other.

 

[Beatlebot]

I can see both sides of the argument. I know exactly what Trav is talking about with certain girls who tend to proclaim that they get along better with the guys. I feel the same, and have tried to be friends with other girls like that, you know what I have found? Usually when I hang around with them and "the guys" they act in ways that uh, how should I say, - platonic friends - don't act like with eachother.

And I get sick of seeing my friends get led around by their dicks. especially if I'm not the one doing it. Watching another girl twist everyone around her finger is usually not as fun as doing it yourself.

On the other hand, there are plenty of girls out there who really just are feet firmly on the ground, chilled out types. You can distinguish them because they keep all their "OMG best male friend guys!" for years as opposed to months. And they usually have a few girlfriends and gay friends as well.

 

[not_broken_420]

I agree with you 100%. I have a boyfriend whom I love dearly. I live with two guys, and I hooked up with one of them a while back. We're friends now, my boyfriend is aware and doesn't care at all, and there is no tension between us. However, the guy's ex, who still loves him and is a drama queen, completely hates me and asked him 'what the hell he was thinking' when I moved in the house. She seems to devote a lot of time to talking about me/glaring at me. Apparently she feels threatened by me living with him, especially now that he has told her to fuck off and stop being a bitch.

It never ceases to confuse me why some people act this way.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

I don't like it when anyone is catty.

It's amusing when femme black gay men are catty though; but not when the cattiness is directed towards you.

 

[Pillthrill]

I agree with you 100%. I have a boyfriend whom I love dearly. I live with two guys, and I hooked up with one of them a while back. We're friends now, my boyfriend is aware and doesn't care at all, and there is no tension between us. However, the guy's ex, who still loves him and is a drama queen, completely hates me and asked him 'what the hell he was thinking' when I moved in the house. She seems to devote a lot of time to talking about me/glaring at me. Apparently she feels threatened by me living with him, especially now that he has told her to fuck off and stop being a bitch.

It never ceases to confuse me why some people act this way.

You know what kinda strange, my ex fiance and I are best friends, its like nothing changed other than the romantic part of it and he and my current bf talk and are friends, strange huh.

 

[SorbetCitron]

I really wish more guys in this world would tell girls to chill the fuck out when their acting like cows to other females, because it's way too common.

I know where you're coming from on this one. I'm a girl who grew up with 3 brothers and I would always(and still do) hang out with them and their friends, in fact my older brother and I share a mutual closest friend (a guy). There were crushes etc when puberty struck but we got that all out of the way by the time we were about 16. Some are now even married but we're all still friends.

I have 3 close female friends, but they all seperate, and two live far away. I don't like being part of a big group of girls - it's too fraught.

So as a girl amongst a group of guys, I've seen plenty of girls come and go, some as girlfriends of these guys and some have just been hanging around wannabe girlfriends. Some have been sweet, friendly and open but they are the minority, others have been complete bitches, and being one of the only girls in our group it was often directed at me.

At times I've felt a bit let down the guys tolerating these girls but I didn't often say much for fear of coming across as bad as them (the girls). I think most of the time guys don't even realise what's going on - sometimes the bitchiness/rudeness can be quite subtle, and obviously it's all charm for the boys (and often sex) so we can't really blame them for not getting as hung up about it as we do! It can be horrible to experience but sounds so trivial and petty when you try to describe what some one was doing! Often it seems guys are too busy having a laugh to worry about shit like this, which isn't a bad approach to life.

And these girls don't really get away with it - what goes around comes around. Their presence may be tolerated (for various reasons!) but deep down I have faith that men can tell the grounded secure girls from the insecure bitchy ones. Your way of being is infinitely more attractive (to any person regardless of sex) and she knows this and it will annoy her even more so hang on to your values & dignity and don't let her get to you

Ha - talking of bitchy does it make me a hypocrite that I act all cool in front of these girls and laugh them off but then I call one of my girlfriends and have a good old bitch. That's why i need my female friends!