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Graffiti

I know right? That's how I feel about art galleries. Art galleries are awesome and have all kinds of crazy art. Those pre-raphaelites sure had some crazy ideas!

I couldn't care less what people say about art galleries. If you don't like that kind of thing though you will never understand and appreciate it and the people that do won't care if the ones that don't don't like it because, well lets be honest, they are ignorant so.... \o0/
 
I like graffiti use to do a fair bit of it myself when I was younger but not no more.... Anyways most if it is crap you need to have real skill to be able to do a good piece, the only people in Brisbane who can really write in my personal opinion is sofles (gesht), Celes, fusion and most of DBM they have real skill they do it for the art not the thrill to paint a panel to fuel their ego -- Brad Strut lol.
 
most of the time, i reckon any type of graff is good graff but the one thing about it that i hate with a passion, are those little kids who don't understand the unwritten rules about graffiti. these little kids who are trying to be hard-nuts and go ahead and tag on churches and cemeteries and those sorts of places. these kids are one of the main reasons graffiti has such a bad name. i personally (along with most people) reckon that a good peice on the side of an urban building is never bad, all that it does is masks the ugliness of todays buildings.

take melbourne for example:

one of its major tourist attractions are guided walks through melbourne city alleyways admiring street art in all its forms.
 
MazDan said:
Graffitti and art can only go hand in hand when it is done on something the graffitiest owns him or her self.

anything else is vandalism.

There is NO grey area in this.

If I ever see these scum vandalising anything then expect to end up behind bars.
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actually, you would be suprised. very few if any people get locked up for graffiti alone, it is not considered a very serious offence even if the offender is a repeat offender. people often go to jail for graffiti amongst other more serious crimes, but very rarely will one go to jail over it. a perfect example occured in melbourne a couple of years back. the police organised a squad to take down "vosko" who at the time was considered melbournes most "up" by most people, meaning he had more graffiti in more places than anybody else. so they followed him around for about 3 months collecting evidence n then they got him. the amount of damage was in the millions yet he did not go to jail. upon release he broke curfew and got caught again, and it wasnt until he was caught with drugs that he finally went to jail.

Who are you to decide what is art and what isn't? I can assure the people painting consider what they do an art. Perhaps if you attempted to do some graffiti and realised how hard it is not only to create a large design with graphic merit off the top of your head in the dark, but also to not get caught doing so, maybe then would you consider it an art. Either way, writers do what they do without any regard for anything, especially people like you. It is the largest and longest-running swinging art movement in the history of the world, and there are thousands of writers around the world who make a comfortable living with nothing but their craft.

Banksy who was posted a few comments ago makes a lot of money from his artwork, his works sell in the $500,000 range, however, he is not a graffiti writer. He is a street artist. There is a massive difference between the street art and graffiti crowds, and generally speaking the 2 do not get along. They are 2 completely different bodies doing different things.
 
I certainly don't think people should go to jail for graffiti! That's hardly going to turn them into better behaved members of society.
 
Police hand out spray cans - to curb graffiti

While most shop keepers have been locking up their spray cans, police in Adelaide's northern suburbs are giving them away to graffiti artists.

It is part of an initiative by police and the Salisbury Council that aims to reduce the amount of graffiti tagging in the area.

Mick Schooley from SA Police has told ABC's Stateline program, the program also gives youths an outlet for their creativity without defacing public property.

"I think they've come leaps and bounds in terms of respecting each other for their talent, and also respecting those people who work within those boundaries with authorities and policies, and I think they've done a fantastic job," he said.

Council spokeswoman Linda Weiss says there has already been a significant reduction in the amount of tagging in the area.

"Sometimes council can be a little bit funny about aerosol art, it's not widely accepted as a legitimate art form, but slowly they're beginning to recognise that it's a way to reduce tagging in certain areas and overall they've been pretty supportive," she said.
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I tried to find an article about the figures that graffiti costs the government to clean up but no luck. I heard on the news the other night that graffiti costs NSW a heap. I wish I could quote it but it was Millions and Millions of dollars...
 
Perhaps I have a part of my brain missing, but what exactly does that program involve? It doesn't really say anything besides that they're giving spray paint cans away, which is surely not the extent? Also I wonder if you can be fined $500 for having this can of spray paint?
 
it probably includes getting proffessional street artists to paint over the so-called scribble on public property with their awesome peices. this will not only make the whole area look better but also stop taggers from going over the street artist's work (as doing so is greatly frowned upon in the graffiti community)
 
i think the harsh new graffiti laws are so stupid it's funny. i mean, how are you supposed to know where you cross the line. if a builder is walking from a paint store to his car would he get fined? i rekon it's more just a shitty scare campaign by the government than anything:|
 
Well I would think particle physicists and classical musicians are more vocations than sub cultures. Sub cultures would involve behavioural patterns and beliefs.
 
heres some fresh graff from some alleys and lanes in melb city.

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^^^ actually saw this one being done

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check out some more aussie graff here
www.thisisvandalism.com
 
DoctorShop said:
Yeah no worries 8)
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I'm just saying that you're basically bitching about something you don't understand nor care to understand and there's more to graff then just painting walls and trains and "wrecking" peoples property. (As i said before a TRUE graff ARTIST will not write on peoples buisnesses and houses - thats usually the young kids that don't get what the scene is about either that do that - theres alot of respect for each others work in the scene itself) I'm sure there are plenty of sub cultures that do alot worse to society than what graff writers do. It's just paint... just art... just some rebellion. Whatever... it's not a big deal *shrugs*
 
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