Government and U.S. Armed Forces

[thursday]

The fact of the matter is... the only reason you have the RIGHT to bad mouth the government and get away with it is because the military, thats right the military, gives you that right.

sorry, but no. the military did not give me the right to free speech. i was born with it as one of my natural rights. free speech is not a privilege that is to be granted or denied, it is something that should necessarily be upheld by principle.

and being critical of certain military or government policies is not the same thing as saying all soldiers are idiots or that all aspects of government are wrong. your inability to make that distinction only makes yourself look more ignorant. think about why the colonies broke from the british empire. it was exactly because they were unhappy with the government being imposed on them. that is why we live in a representative democracy so that when people see corruption in government they can attempt to effect reforms.

blindly obeying orders is not necessarily the same thing as fighting for freedom or fighting for democracy. by your logic nazi soldiers in WWII were only being patriotic by upholding military orders and killing enemies of the state. but the government is not infalliable. government is made up of people and people can make mistakes or be corrupt. criticizing government policies which you see as corrupt is not unpatriotic. in fact it's more unpatriotic to sit idly by as corrupt government officials demonstrate unethical conduct. we live in a democratic society that supposedly values human rights, we should have higher expectations of our government officials.

and sorry, you may think that soldiers are the only ones improving the state by actively using violent coercion, but you fail to explain how the violence described by sgt changes the country for the better. the military may be able to defend the nation against physical external attacks, but it does not improve the nation's internal infrastructure. the military did not decrease racial tension. the military does not safe guard against government corruption. the military does not solve societal inequities. the military does not progressively improve our society. it is only useful for defending it against outside attackers. get over yourself. you are not saving us "pansies" from anyone. you do not give me my natural rights. you have demonstrated the exact opposite mindset of the revolutionaries who fought for the freedom of this nation. your sentiments directly undermine the attitude expressed in our constitution. and being unable to think critically for yourself does not make you more american, it just makes you a tool.

 

[camo]

So tell me Thursday... what makes YOU a true American? Is it because you disapprove of a few policies the government has? Just because you're going against the current government does not make you some sort of martyr or intellectual.

Sorry but YES, the military DID give you the right to free speech. Why don't you go ask an Iraqi citizen if he had the right to free speech under Saddam Hussein. Many tyrannical regimes liked to keep that 'right' suppressed.

How in the hell can you even compare anything that's happening today to Nazi Germany? Seriously. If American soldiers were murdering millions of innocent civilians, you can guarantee we wouldn't follow orders. You might argue that Iraqi civilians are dying but it isn't us that is killing them. It's their own people. The only Iraqis we are killing are the ones that fire RPGs at us. The ones that set up IEDs to blow up a passing humvee convoy. They want to fight... so we fight back. Keep in mind these are the same Iraqis that use hospitals and ambulances to stage attacks.

You're absolutely right. America was built upon the idea that the people have control. Yes, you do have the right to disagree and to attempt to do what you can to change it. I'm not refuting that.

It is your God-given right to freedom of speech, freedom of religion, to bear arms, etc etc etc. We all know these things. It was said earlier that we are attacked and hated because of what America stands for. They see our freedoms and our way of life and are jealous. If we have the power to give these freedoms to our own people we also have the power to give it to others. So we took down Saddam Hussein. Sure Iraq isn't as developed as the US but we helped millions of people to now live a free life. Damn America.. those bastards. Who do they think they are?

WE are the reason you sleep soundly at night. Do we give you your natural rights? No. We defend them. We insure them. We put our lives on the line so that you can keep your natural rights from being oppressed by our enemies.

 

[WhinnersAreLosers]

I hate to say it, but the vast majority of the world does not share the oh-so "enlightened" mindset that the majority of you carry. It appears to me that most of you are the type of people that would find Neville Chamberlain a hero. Sure, Europe avoided war for a few years while it appeased a tyrannt, but in the end it was men on the ground with rifles who defeated tyranny. Words are great and Ghandi was a great man, but didn't he get assasinated? That unfortunately is the real word. Words are loud, but a bullet going into your head is the loudest. I know you people live in the comfortable cushion of freedom that is provided by men stronger morally and physically than any of you ever hope to be.

 

[camo]

Oh and Thursday... take off your pro-mask. There's no NBC contamination. You look stupid wearing it.

Before you think you're smarter than everyone else I'd suggest laying off all the crack, meth, marijuana and whatever other chemicals you put into yourself to have a good time.

You're just a shitbag drug addict who has nothing better to do than trying to make yourself look good by quoting obscure books and unimportant phrases.

 

[Buckfutter]

perhaps some people are man enough not to pick up a weapon and fight for themselves?

If you walked in on a stranger about to run a knife into one of your family members chest, what would you do?

A. Call him a pantiewaist and let him go about his business.

or

B. Grab a weapon and defend your family.

And explain to me why you would pick whatever course of action.

and BTW, there is no "C. Blame the system"

 

[camo]

hahaha. you're a genius Buckfutter.

 

[Buckfutter]

8( Its all you, i'm just trying to get my jabs in.

 

[zorn]

The fact of the matter is... the only reason you have the RIGHT to bad mouth the government and get away with it is because the military, thats right the military, gives you that right. General Washington and the members of the Second Continental Congress didn't break free from Great Britain through non-violence. We pulled together all of our ragged minute men.. all of those people willing to follow an ideal of freedom... and fought the most powerful nation in the world.

^^^ good point. Just imagine if they hadn't, we'd still be run by Britain just like Canada & Australia. I bet all these anti-American cowards would be missing their freedom to badmouth their government then.

 

[Buckfutter]

Don't forget Sudan.

 

[Kul69]

Geez man, it's painfully obvious you're posting under all those names. Either you're a very disturbed person and you really believe there is an "us" to your side of the argument, or you're just pathetic and need to create people to side with you. Either way, get a grip.

Can't you just pretend that "everyone" is actually at your house so you can post under the same name? We'll play along.

oh and Kul... these new people don't play "GI Joe" in their bathtub. We are pieces of trash that will be thrown away? That's fine. You'll be wishing you could dig us out of the trash can when enemy forces march on your hometown streets because you no longer have a force to keep them at bay. Who's going to protect your pansy ass then?

People like Mysticalis, Tathra, and SgT.

If you walked in on a stranger about to run a knife into one of your family members chest, what would you do?

Are you suggesting it would be possible to do a back flip across the room to my trusty gun rack and whip out something, load it, and blow this guy away below he moves his arm another foot?

This is NOT GI JOE AMERICAN HERO!!! My course of action would be to watch my family member die, what other option would I have if I opened a door seconds before someone stabbed them? Even if this was a hostage situation, I sure as hell wouldn't try to grab a weapon and go after them risking my family members life. Would you do that and scream, "Don't worry hunny! We'll all die if anyone is going to die!" as you ran towards him?

What was the point of this question?

Here is a question for you, a bomb is on a bus, if the bus goes below 55mph it will explode. If anyone gets on or off the bus, it will explode. What do you do?!

Is that what "you guys" do all day? Sit around quizzing each other on what kind of elite military tactics you would employ if you wern't a janitor in the Navy?

Written from the safety and security of an overseas military installation in eastern Europe.

I'd feel safer in an overseas military installation than I would in Los Angeles in the middle of the day, who the fuck are you kidding? That is, as long as I didn't express my views openly around military personnel.

Words are great and Ghandi was a great man, but didn't he get assasinated? That unfortunately is the real word.

It's the real world because people like you throw a fit when you can't have everything your way, and you are quick to result to violence to change it. Without you, it wouldn't be that way.

You think that because you you've gone through some classes in college that you're above the rest of us? Please.

A 5 year old could tell you that your pro-death and war and boom, big guns, wow! Rockets and napalm! BOOM! Bam bam bam! GI Joe.. AMERICAN HERRO!!... is seated in fantasy, I didn't need college to teach me that. It's a sort of intelligence you get by.. Well, I think most people are born with it.. why don't you tell me what happened with you?

 

[camo]

Actually we're not the same person. I just happened to run into this thread by a person claiming "RLTW" and I informed my colleagues on another bb to read it. They chose to come visit.

I hate to tell you but your buddy Mysticalis isn't going to be doing much of anything. He's getting the boot! Oh well.

I think in the scenario given you probably wouldn't do any of those things. You'd have chosen D. "Piss my pants, stand frozen in fear and watch my family get murdered and then after I got stabbed, watch the assailant take the 5 dollars I made at McDonalds that day from my wallet and walk out the door."

It was a simple question with a simple answer but since you're "all brain" and not enough cock and balls you're going to get walked all over and then complain about it after it happens. You're pathetic.

I would suggest not questioning my intelligence simply because I do not share your point of view about the military or the government. You classify intelligence as critical thinking against the government. Is that the only way? You think that only people who view the US the same way you do are the only smart ones? Think again.

You say people are born with that sort of intelligence. Everything else is gained by life experiences. My bet is that you have done nothing but drugs and sit around in your bean bag chair hitting the bong, working at a Blockbuster a few streets down from your dorm room or your house that you rent with a few of your other hippy friends.

Lay off the blotters and let me know when you've done something productive with your life.

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

-Ronald Reagan

 

[Kul69]

Rather Mysticalis than you, just because someone isn't officially in the military means they couldn't protect this country?

What option would you choose? The question, was retarded. There was no anwser.

No, I classified intelligence in this one thread as common sense. Something you're lacking. I don't even know where you're getting what you say I said from, cause I sure don't know.

The first job I got was $12 an hour in a computer lab, more than you've ever made in your life probably. I'm not going to sit here and give you my resume though, you wouldn't believe it if you saw it. I've also never worked at a chain store in my entire life. Bean bag chairs suck as well.

You couldn't even get one thing right while throwing out those wild accusations, pretty sad. I also don't smoke out of a bong.

What would be productive? Joining the military? No thanks. I enjoy my life very much and I'll continue to enjoy doing whatever I want without needing someone to approve of my choices.

If you want to throw out quotes, at least pick someone better than Ronald Regan.

Like maybe George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and Theodore Roosevelt, as well as verious American generals, if you only want to see it from the viewpoint of "good honest Americans".

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.

~George Washington

Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official...

~Theodore Roosevelt

War creates peace like hate creates love.

~David L. Wilson

Military glory--that attractive rainbow, that rises in showers of blood--that serpent's eye, that charms to destroy...

~Abraham Lincoln

I'm fed up to the ears with old men dreaming up wars for young men to die in.

~George McGovern

War is fear cloaked in courage.

~General William Westmoreland

Because I do it with one small ship, I am called a terrorist. You do it with a whole fleet and are called an emperor.

~A pirate, from St. Augustine's "City of God"

I am not blaming those who are resolved to rule, only those who show an even greater readiness to submit.

~Thucydides

Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it.

~Noam Chomsky

Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

~Benjamin Franklin

Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other.

~James Madison

War doesn't make boys men, it makes men dead.

~Ken Gillespie

It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.

~Albert Camus

We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it.

~Edward R. Murrow

The opinion of 10,000 men is of no value if none of them know anything about the subject.

~Marcus Aurelius

The dangerous patriot...drifts into chauvinism and exhibits blind enthusiasm for military actions.

~Colonel James A. Donovan, Marine Corps

Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent.

~Issac Asimov

Liberty and democracy become unholy when their hands are dyed red with innocent blood.

~Mahatma Gandhi

A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.

~Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Any man who has once proclaimed violence as his method is inevitably forced to take the lie as his principle.

~Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act.

~George Orwell

It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood...War is hell.

~General William Tecumseh Sherman

It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.

~Voltaire

In order to rally people, governments need enemies. They want us to be afraid, to hate, so we will rally behind them.

~Thich Nhat Hanh, Vietnamese Buddhist monk

Look at you in war...There has never been a just one, never an honorable one, on the part of the instigator of the war.

~Mark Twain

I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use our power the greater it will be.

~Thomas Jefferson

Is that enough for you? Would you like a few more? I could throw out thousands of these quotes all from men grater than Ronald McDonald ever was. Why don't you read a few of them? Get back to me..

Hey, maybe you could give me a few pro-war quotes? Even the balance? Oh wait..

Crawl back to where you came from, your thoughts are what make the world a bad place for everyone.

 

[camo]

You're right. I probably wouldn't believe your resume if I saw it.

January to February - McDonalds
February to February - Wendy's
February to March - Burger King
March to December - Unemployed
December to December - JC Penny's

Doing something productive would mean doing something for the betterment of your fellow American. Flipping burgers for them doesn't do anything but make them fatter than they already are. You're probably one of those fat-asses too. Better yet, go do some PT. That would also be productive.

Did you even read half of your quotes?? A good majority of them have quotes with opposite meanings.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power.
-George Orwell

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
-George Orwell

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
-George Washington

If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known, that we are at all times ready for War.
-George Washington


It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a Free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even of his personal services to the defense of it.
-George Washington

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
-Thomas Jefferson

Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.
-Thomas Jefferson

For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security.
-Thomas Jefferson


Now I want you to think REALLLLL HARD about this one without giving yourself a nosebleed.

It is our duty still to endeavor to avoid war; but if it shall actually take place, no matter by whom brought on, we must defend ourselves. If our house be on fire, without inquiring whether it was fired from within or without, we must try to extinguish it.
-Thomas Jefferson

I'll just crawl back into the hole I came from, where my rifle is lying to make sure you and your loved ones can live under the blanket of freedom that my comrads and I provide.... while you endeavor only to work hard to benefit yourself.

 

[Raw Evil]

Wow camo, what a diverse range of quotes you have give. From all of THREE PEOPLE! I f I tried to get away with that for an assignment at uni, heck at high school, I would have been readily delivered an "F". You know why? Because three sources is nowhere near enough for what we consider a "verifiable" opinion.

Best example I ever heard was this:

__

Imagine, hypothetically, that your argument is that the world is flat and not round.

For this assignment, you have referenced three sources: the Flat Earth Society (www.flatearth.com, a site owned by Ed Planar), "Why The Ancient Ones Had It Right" by Tom B. Flatt, who in his book mentions his close work with Mr. Planar, and a transcript from an interview with Mr. Flatt himself.

FAIL. Why? Because your sources all derive their information from a single main source. There is little indication of any 'independent' research by any two sources.
__

All that aside, however, you still have nothing on the amount of people on this board that think you are an asshat. Personally, I think you have to step away from your oh-so-arrogant attitude towards life and actually consider what people have to say.

Maybe violence can get you somewhere. Arrogance, on the other hand, cannot.

And one more thing:

It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a Free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even of his personal services to the defense of it.

Sure. I can understand why this makes sense, and somewhat agree, but there is a line between DEFENDING YOUR COUNTRY, and TAKING OVER EVERYONE ELSE'S. It's a thick line, but it has been painted-over. Unfortunately, it has been painted-over with that shiny black stuff they cover old road lines with, and is still visible to the people who actually look where they are heading.


*EDIT: www.flatearth.com actually exists but it's actually about some role-playing game. Ignore.

 

[camo]

Well then it's a good thing I'm not trying to compose the perfect term paper now am I? That loser Kul didn't post a worked cited page and neither shall I. My point was that several of the people he quoted were also quoted saying things quite contrary to whichever he listed.

I'm glad a bunch of acid eating pill poppers think I'm an asshat. I would have voiced my opinions much differently had I actually given a fuck. Do I listen to what others have to say? Sure I do. I also have to call people out on bullshit like 'sgtairborne'. I also have no problem calling people out who think they're better than everyone else like Mr. Gas Mask.

I'm not a warmonger. I don't LIKE violence. The fact of the matter is and apparently this idea seems to escape most of you here, is that this is the REAL WORLD and all the brain power put together won't stop a bullet. The simple fact is... myself along with the rest of the military, save a few, would kill any amount of people if it meant that America remains free and safe from harm. Unfortunately, this sometimes means we have to go places and do bad things. Perhaps this seems a bit imperialistic... but we're not in Iraq to put in a McDonalds right next to Saddam Husseins' old palace. We took the fight to the terrorists and personally I'd like to keep in there.

What do you think we should do? Pull back from the rest of the world and go into an isolationist state like we did back in the 20s? Look what happened when we did that. Hitler came to power.

I'm not arrogant. I am confident. I am proud of what I do for the United States of America. You assume that I blindly follow my orders. I have defended our nation before 9/11 and I will continue until I choose not to. What you people need to realize is that the folks in the Armed Forces are not stupid. We are not ignorant. We know what we are doing and why.

It has been my experience that every last person who is against the military has this thing in their mind that the members of the military are in some way stupid and have no clue. That we're blindly being led to the slaughter. That's not the case, I'm afraid. I certainly wouldn't put my life on the line if I "wasn't looking where I was going," as you put it.

Face reality. You can't reason with terrorists. They're barbarians. They behead innocent, unarmed civilians that have absolutely nothing to do with the war. They behead their own countrymen simply because they support the US-led coalition and want to do their own part to give freedom to their families.

The only thing these terrorists understand is death... and that is what they shall receive.

 

[WhinnersAreLosers]

Thursday wrote the following:

sorry, but no. the military did not give me the right to free speech. i was born with it as one of my natural rights. free speech is not a privilege that is to be granted or denied, it is something that should necessarily be upheld by principle.

Hey retard, besides quoting a bunch of other people because you have no original thoughts of your own, take a close look at what you wrote. I could concede that no, the military did not give you the right to free speech. However, let me point this out. The vast majority of governing bodies in the world go to no lengths to protect the rights of it's citizens. Rather, they will do just about anything to stop basic rights. People in the world hate you and all other Americans because they envy us. They envy our potential, our opportunities and our freedoms. Since they live in places where these are denied to them, they feel the only way to equalize the difference is by tearing us down. How many hostile, foreign countries have you been to? Probably none, since you've already stated that your a coward and will preserve your little existence rather than your own rights. SO how do your rights get preserved? By rough men ready to do violence on your behalf. They don't know you, probably would hate you if they met you, but are willing to lay their life to protect your cowardly existence. Here's an another quote, from someone you might consider a great revolutionary:
"It is better to die on your feet, than live on your knees."

You really are an arrogant, ignorant person.

 

[WhinnersAreLosers]

Wow camo, what a diverse range of quotes you have give. From all of THREE PEOPLE! I f I tried to get away with that for an assignment at uni, heck at high school, I would have been readily delivered an "F". You know why? Because three sources is nowhere near enough for what we consider a "verifiable" opinion.

Best example I ever heard was this:

__

Imagine, hypothetically, that your argument is that the world is flat and not round.

For this assignment, you have referenced three sources: the Flat Earth Society (www.flatearth.com, a site owned by Ed Planar), "Why The Ancient Ones Had It Right" by Tom B. Flatt, who in his book mentions his close work with Mr. Planar, and a transcript from an interview with Mr. Flatt himself.

FAIL. Why? Because your sources all derive their information from a single main source. There is little indication of any 'independent' research by any two sources.
__

All that aside, however, you still have nothing on the amount of people on this board that think you are an asshat. Personally, I think you have to step away from your oh-so-arrogant attitude towards life and actually consider what people have to say.

Maybe violence can get you somewhere. Arrogance, on the other hand, cannot.

And one more thing:


Sure. I can understand why this makes sense, and somewhat agree, but there is a line between DEFENDING YOUR COUNTRY, and TAKING OVER EVERYONE ELSE'S. It's a thick line, but it has been painted-over. Unfortunately, it has been painted-over with that shiny black stuff they cover old road lines with, and is still visible to the people who actually look where they are heading.


*EDIT: www.flatearth.com actually exists but it's actually about some role-playing game. Ignore.

Hey, how did you get to work this morning? Well, assuming you have a job. You probably drove. You think that auto or motorcycle was powered by sunshine, you dolt?

 

[Raw Evil]

Now, what the fuck does that have to do with my post?

 

[dr seuss]

camo/butterfuck/whinners or whatever your names are,

you need to quit with the personal insults. not only does it detract from your point, but it's against the bluelight user agreement. i'm sure as a military man (!!!) you realise the importance of operating within a set of rules, don't you?

http://www.bluelight.ru/about/agreement/

yes?

in that case, be a real 'man' and post properly instead of devoting half your sentences to ill-founded personal attacks

The vast majority of governing bodies in the world go to no lengths to protect the rights of it's citizens. Rather, they will do just about anything to stop basic rights.

i don't know what you're saying here. do you mean that the 'vast majority' of governments do not act to protect their citizens? or do you mean external or non-profit organisations, or macro-legislative bodies, or what?

if you're comparing governments i'm afraid you're not doing terribly well. there are plenty of places in the world with progressive social policies - and plenty of places with higher UN development indexes than the countries you or i inhabit.

People in the world hate you and all other Americans because they envy us. They envy our potential, our opportunities and our freedoms.

some people may well desire freedom.

i think you are overstating the importance of your nation as an ideological candle which burns brightly for the dispossessed. people do not hate america because it is 'free' and wealthy - because there are plenty of free and wealthy countries.

you need to forget the notion of america as some gentle giant which everyone picks on because they want to be big and strong too. it's misguided, and it won't help you to understand the motivations of those who wish to harm america. and if you really cared about your security, this understanding ought to be at the top of your list of priorities.

SO how do your rights get preserved? By rough men ready to do violence on your behalf. They don't know you, probably would hate you if they met you, but are willing to lay their life to protect your cowardly existence.

are you saying that military service automatically gives one status as establisher-cum-defender of democracy?

 

[Raw Evil]

I'm glad a bunch of acid eating pill poppers think I'm an asshat. I would have voiced my opinions much differently had I actually given a fuck.

1: I'm not an "acid-eating pill-popper". Heck, I rarely even smoke pot. And even that has little to do with the argument at hand, which is the corruption in the government/armed forces chain of command that SgT brought up.
2: Just participating in this argument proves that you DO in fact, "give a fuck". If you didn't, you would have left ages ago.

I'm not a warmonger. I don't LIKE violence. The fact of the matter is and apparently this idea seems to escape most of you here, is that this is the REAL WORLD and all the brain power put together won't stop a bullet.

Of course you don't like violence. It's just a necessary evil. You don't have a choice in the matter, it's just going to happen anyway. Do you feel better that you don't have any control of the world around you? It's the people that don't BELIEVE that change can happen, that stop it from happening in the first place.

The simple fact is... myself along with the rest of the military, save a few, would kill any amount of people if it meant that America remains free and safe from harm.

Wait, I thought you were AGAINST violence? Looks like we got ourselves a clear case of hypocrisy here, folks.

I'm not arrogant. I am confident. I am proud of what I do for the United States of America. You assume that I blindly follow my orders. I have defended our nation before 9/11 and I will continue until I choose not to. What you people need to realize is that the folks in the Armed Forces are not stupid. We are not ignorant. We know what we are doing and why.

Are you sure that you understand every effect your actions will have on the rest of the world? You can't be; nobody can. Your arrogance here is what blinds you so that you can follow your orders. This is a very complacent thing to say, and overconfidence has only ever led to demise. My advice is to take a lesson from history and don't let it repeat itself, but nobody ever does that because they think they're somehow better than the last generation, and won't make the same mistakes.

Face reality. You can't reason with terrorists. They're barbarians. They behead innocent, unarmed civilians that have absolutely nothing to do with the war. They behead their own countrymen simply because they support the US-led coalition and want to do their own part to give freedom to their families.

Two things wrong here: First, you said they are barbarians, then you say they are "doing their own part to give freedom to their families"? Someone's beginning to sound a little confused if you ask me.

Secondly, why are they barbarians? Because you think so? Because the media, the government, the armed forces and old Mrs Mitchell across the street all say so?

The only thing these terrorists understand is death... and that is what they shall receive.

Vengeful words. From a vengeful being. I sincerely hope that your attitude brings with it the punishment it deserves, in whatever personal hell you are granted after this life is over.