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Did anyone watch that documentary about mind control last night on beeb 2? And more importantly does anyone know how to get involved with Professor Nutt and his great looking experiments with psilocybin?

Yeah mate, saw those on BBC4 a few months back. Interesting stuff, though dark in places. If you find out about the great Mr Nutt, let me know =D
 
Everything and Nothing presented by Prof. Jim Al-Khalili - It's a wonderful, insightful and brain-tingling 2 part documentary about where everything came from and, it turns out, that it came from nothing... Even though "nothing" doesn't actually exist :)
It was really, really fantastic ^_^

Watched 'em last night - good stuff. Preferred the Nothing one cos the Everything one has slightly been done to death. He does do it well though and was good to see him mention some of the less well-known people involved who never usually get a mention. Well worth a watch the both of 'em :)

In related news, I recently watched another of his recent ones - The Big Bang. Again it's been done to death but again he manages to keep it interesting. Uses a lot of footage from old episodes of Horizon and stuff cos it's part of that "50 Years of Science on the BBC" season.

Another one of his that I enjoyed recently was Science and Islam. Not a topic that's been done to death and it's done well again here. It's easy to forget quite how much modern science owes to the Islamic world for the work they did in assimilating, translating and spreading the knowledge from ancient times and also the huge contributions they made themselves whilst the West was still fighting off Vikings and stuff. Well worth a watch :)

And in other news, I recently really enjoyed - God on the Brain about Temporal Lobe Epilepsy. There's another good doc on similar subject by that Indian neurologist with the ubereyes I forget the name of (Ramachandran? or similar?) but I can't find it at the moment. Got some stuff on Phantom Limb Syndrome that our very own Bulby Baby might be interested in (but almost certainly knows already). Was a good doc so will post if I rediscover it.
 
Aye I preferred the "Nothing" one also, because as you said - The things covered in "Everything" HAVE been covered many times in many different docs, but "Nothing" sprung up some extremely interesting things I had no idea about :) I mean... The "Big Bang" being caused by a quantum fluctuation?? It's a mental concept but makes so much sense! :)

I saw the "Science and Islam" adverts but didn't get round to watching it, so I'll take yer word for it and check it out ;) Same goes for that "God on the Brain".
 
^^ Yeah, I love all things to do with the cosmos and our place in it etc. There's been loads of recent eye candy docs over on Discovery and National Geographic, together with recent BBC offerings. Too many really as I can't remember the specifics of them as they overlap a lot obviously. But I've been trying to locate an animation from one of them that blew me away recently. Very much like the one in 'Everything' where they showed the cosmic web of galaxies visualised from outside the universe. Impossible of course, but a great visual representation of what we are part of. This particular animation showed a whole section of the universe and it's connecting filaments of galaxies tied together with dark energy (or matter, I can't remember which!). The animation had a name, some russian ruler or something, but the one thing that struck me was how it resembled neurons and how they were connected in the brain.

I've always been drawn to the thought that our own galaxy is just a single neuron in a brain and that we are just some quantum particles within it, winking in and out of exhistance just like the quantom world. Crazy stuff I know, and possibly the result of far too many drugs over far too many years. But I love the idea of infinity in and infinity out. So maybe there are countless galaxies within our own brains :)

Also, I love stats that put things into perspective. You can talk about the universe being 13.7 billion years old, but numbers start to loose meaning at those levels. Especially when you talk of distances and time. Like....how old will the universe be when it finally dies. As in not even any photons left. Turns out that if we were to count all the atoms in our bodies, carry on counting to include the atoms in the planet, then onto the solar system and our own galaxy even. That wouldn't be enough. Even if we counted all the atoms in the entire universe, the number we counted to would still come nowhere near the number needed to show the final age of the universe. That leaves me more shocked than any digit followed by thousands of zeros would.

Then there's this one that I love that shows distances within the universe. Saying that Andromeda is our closest galaxy at 2.5 million light years away makes it sound almost close compared to the 13 billion or so light years distance that we can detect objects and so looses meaning. So to put it into perspective it comes as a shock to learn that since our own galaxy and Andromeda will collide in the future, and we getting closer by around 6 million miles every day, it will still take 3 billion years until we do so. Wow.

Then there's the fact that most of what we see is simply nothing. 99. something % of each atom is made up of nothing. Food for the brain innit?

Sorry to go on, off to watch some cookery programs now to wind down =D
 
Yea it really does blow the mind, especially when you can sort of put the numbers into a metaphorically understandable notion :) And no sorry needed! It's all really, really interesting to me so I love to see others who are just as passionate about it ^_^
Have fun with yer cooker progs :P =D
 
^^ Yeah, I love all things to do with the cosmos and our place in it etc. There's been loads of recent eye candy docs over on Discovery and National Geographic, together with recent BBC offerings. Too many really as I can't remember the specifics of them as they overlap a lot obviously. But I've been trying to locate an animation from one of them that blew me away recently. Very much like the one in 'Everything' where they showed the cosmic web of galaxies visualised from outside the universe. Impossible of course, but a great visual representation of what we are part of. This particular animation showed a whole section of the universe and it's connecting filaments of galaxies tied together with dark energy (or matter, I can't remember which!). The animation had a name, some russian ruler or something, but the one thing that struck me was how it resembled neurons and how they were connected in the brain.

I've always been drawn to the thought that our own galaxy is just a single neuron in a brain and that we are just some quantum particles within it, winking in and out of exhistance just like the quantom world. Crazy stuff I know, and possibly the result of far too many drugs over far too many years. But I love the idea of infinity in and infinity out. So maybe there are countless galaxies within our own brains :)

Also, I love stats that put things into perspective. You can talk about the universe being 13.7 billion years old, but numbers start to loose meaning at those levels. Especially when you talk of distances and time. Like....how old will the universe be when it finally dies. As in not even any photons left. Turns out that if we were to count all the atoms in our bodies, carry on counting to include the atoms in the planet, then onto the solar system and our own galaxy even. That wouldn't be enough. Even if we counted all the atoms in the entire universe, the number we counted to would still come nowhere near the number needed to show the final age of the universe. That leaves me more shocked than any digit followed by thousands of zeros would.

Then there's this one that I love that shows distances within the universe. Saying that Andromeda is our closest galaxy at 2.5 million light years away makes it sound almost close compared to the 13 billion or so light years distance that we can detect objects and so looses meaning. So to put it into perspective it comes as a shock to learn that since our own galaxy and Andromeda will collide in the future, and we getting closer by around 6 million miles every day, it will still take 3 billion years until we do so. Wow.

Then there's the fact that most of what we see is simply nothing. 99. something % of each atom is made up of nothing. Food for the brain innit?

Sorry to go on, off to watch some cookery programs now to wind down =D


Lol, glad it's not just me who's a cosmos geek :)

The thing about it is that although I love science my biggest problem with western science is that if it can't be explained it either doesn't exist or it's utter rubbish.
What is this fear of the mystery? Why be scared of the bigger unexplainable picture?
I love how physicists can explain as much as they can about the cosmos but as they reach the event horizon of a black hole all calculation go out of the window and they have to admit of the 'mystery'.
Somethings will never be explained and that's how I like it. It clearly lets the human race know we are a very small speck of dust in a much larger consciousness. =D
 
The thing about it is that although I love science my biggest problem with western science is that if it can't be explained it either doesn't exist or it's utter rubbish.
What is this fear of the mystery? Why be scared of the bigger unexplainable picture?

Yep. I guess somewhere between science and theology is a good area :) All science does is show us our limits. We marvel at how clever we are and how much we've learned. And I agree to an extent. The advances in scientific discovery are huge over the last century. But it's just a scratch on the bigger picture. Like I say, I'm more interested in the area where science and religion overlap.
 
Yep. I guess somewhere between science and theology is a good area :) All science does is show us our limits. We marvel at how clever we are and how much we've learned. And I agree to an extent. The advances in scientific discovery are huge over the last century. But it's just a scratch on the bigger picture. Like I say, I'm more interested in the area where science and religion overlap.

Rather than knowledge/religion = money and power.

More belief/spirituality = peace and harmony.

I've always loved the saying 'belief is knowing there is a sea just because you've seen a stream'.

It's something I hold dearly onto so no matter how tough things get down here on a personal and global perspective I know inside due some profound experiences I've had there is a much greater attractor or even dimension that lies ahead for those who can decondition themselves for what I believe is a bigger oncoming event that we the human race is standing on edge of.

But hey we all have our beliefs :)
 
I believe is a bigger oncoming event that we the human race is standing on edge of.

But hey we all have our beliefs :)

I like your belief :)

When you say an event that we are standing on the edge of, out of interest, do you mean a feeling that something is about to happen? I don't want to derail this thread, come over as a loon and start 'THE END IS NIGH' debate. But if that's what you mean, I actually agree. I've lived through some serious shit really, and can take this into account as I look back. It started with the Cuban missile crisis back in '62 ffs. Before cars were invented, or my self awareness come to that ;) Then the rest of the cold war where I was on all those marches with CND and lived in London with a genuine shared feeling that we were going to all die very soon during the 80's cruise missile days. I mean seriously, if there was a loud odd sounding plane in the middle of the night, I would wake up convinced this was it; the big one. And I was far from being alone in those days I can tell you. Then more recently Iraq x2, climate meltdown and now the powder keg in the middle east seems to be warming nicely too. But for whatever reason, I feel more than ever that something not too pleasant is about to happen. Fuck knows why. Maybe just my natural pessimism, but it's never been this bad.

Or perhaps the just the politics of fear is working it's magic maybe?
 
I like your belief :)

When you say an event that we are standing on the edge of, out of interest, do you mean a feeling that something is about to happen? I don't want to derail this thread, come over as a loon and start 'THE END IS NIGH' debate. But if that's what you mean, I actually agree. I've lived through some serious shit really, and can take this into account as I look back. It started with the Cuban missile crisis back in '62 ffs. Before cars were invented, or my self awareness come to that ;) Then the rest of the cold war where I was on all those marches with CND and lived in London with a genuine shared feeling that we were going to all die very soon during the 80's cruise missile days. I mean seriously, if there was a loud odd sounding plane in the middle of the night, I would wake up convinced this was it; the big one. And I was far from being alone in those days I can tell you. Then more recently Iraq x2, climate meltdown and now the powder keg in the middle east seems to be warming nicely too. But for whatever reason, I feel more than ever that something not too pleasant is about to happen. Fuck knows why. Maybe just my natural pessimism, but it's never been this bad.

Or perhaps the just the politics of fear is working it's magic maybe?


Yes, no de rail intended.
The late Terence McKenna sums it up beautifuly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkHe6BlW5Tk
 
Just watched - Australian Druglords. Three half-hour episodes. First one about a "celebrity" coke dealer, second one involves an Olympic gold medal winning athlete busted for pressing E pills with his brother, third one involves a "supergrass" dropping his mate of 20 years in it up to the neck for no good reason. What a scumfuck. Aussie pigs seem pretty lightweight though.
 
^Just watched the coke dealer episode. Those bricks they seized at the end and all that cash, damn pigs.
 
Watching the ecstasy one now, surely pills in australia do not go for 30 dollars each. Complete media exaggeration.
 
The cinematography and loads of slo mo shots down dark tunnels makes this one great to watch in an altered state. It's about nuclear waste though, so not everyone's idea of a good trip. It's very philosophical about time and our responsibility to the future so is pretty thought provoking

Into Eternity: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1194612/
 
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