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Good Documentaries v. is that a doc?

Septonn said:
Has anyone seen The House I Live In and is it worth a watch? Got it recommended by a friend but I found the trailer to be very American (overly dramatic) so not convinced yet
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Been ages since I saw it but from memory it's worth watching yes. Nothing new to most BL folks I'm sure but nice to see it in a relatively widely-distributed mainstream US doc.
 
Pluto the Dwarf Planet

Really very good indeed documenatary about Pluto. Rather timely as it's but six months or so before we get our first actual pix of the pink(ish) demi-planet. Catch it before this version also gets pulled - only watched it yesterday and already the version I saw got pulled so had to dig up another version :!

Also quite enjoyed...

Universe: Beyond the Millennium - Creation

Kinda cheesy in places but mostly nicely done. Covers old ground (obviously) but comes at it from a nice angle for the most part.

Planets

Again, nothing Earth-shattering (*titters*) but looks pretty and has some nice stuff in that's relatively rare in such dox. Amazing how quickly dated some of this info is. I'm fairly sure much of the actual theory they're basing this on got blown out the water by the very info that they've spun this off from (ie: exoplanets (this uses the dangling of new info on exoplanets to retread earlier planetary formatin theory - but does it well and is basically correct... basically correct... I suspect)
 
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When they first publicised the widespread introduction of state sponsored snooping on the general populations electronic and phone communications they said it would be strictly limited to 'terrorist related activity only'. The next time the announcement was made the target had been widened to include 'terrorist related activity, drug dealing and other serious criminal activities including the posession and distribtion of images of child pornography'. I have yet to hear of anyone i know personally, or virtually, to have known to have been affected by any of this. I guess like most here Im not exactly a boyscout but dont really 'run with the wolves' like the groups mentioned above. Or anyone who does isnt going to go round blabbing their mouths off about it on online forums anyway. Who knows though, they may be compiling dossiers on all of us, but i doubt it somehow, with the limited resources they have, the reality probably is that the snooping is very limited in scope.
 
2 million quid, i wonder how many snoopers that would pay for. Not all that many, i dont think. Though i spose a lot of it could be automated, i dont really know......They were presenting it very differently on the news last night, saying that each terror suspect they identified might require up to 15 people to work on gathering "intelligence" about that individual.
 
I might have to rewatch it... popped a promethazine just as it started & my brain started wondering about 30 minutes in. Managed to stay awake just & shuffle to bed at the end. :D
 
That doc was much better than expected, featuring interviews from lots of very significant people. Makes a complete mockery of my post number #189 above though. One of the guys was saying that "some people think there's not enough people to do mass surveillence on everyone, well HELLO, its done by computer programs" (you fucking idiot, in brackets, being the undertone). Once the computer programs have surveilled everyone they come up with a list of persons that may be of interest. They know who communicated with who, and when, and what was said. They know every site you ever visited, obviously every transaction ever made through your bank. I feel a bit naive and concerned now. The program seemed to be actively encouraging people to use tor. I think i may well go back to using it, for certain things.
 
^ I think one of the key points which was made (but not very forcefully where it probably should have been) is that TOR and other "anonymity" software is only as good as the people using it. If you don't use it properly you're almost drawing more attention to yourself than if you use nothing. It is pleasing to see the backlash against the utterly overwhelming state of incredibly intrusive mass-surveillance finally starting to become a bit more mainstream though. Hopefully this will encourage software developers to create more user-friendly ways of trying to keep some level of privacy on tintrawebz in future. Makes no difference whether you have owt to hide or not, there's principle at stake and quite a major one too. Once all-encompassing mass-surveillance of entire populations is in place (which it virtually is already) that's there forever and open to outrageous abuse by any number of people, governments or corporate interests - anybody who can afford to buy access or pay somebody to break in and steal info really. That's not a world anybody should be in any hurry to help along the way.

In unrelated news, watched Money & Life yesterday. Is a bit twee and hippified in places but is nice to see something that explores alternatives to current economic ideas. It's not just the usual bankster-bashing stuff and nor is it calls for socialism or communism or the like, it's more about alternate and complementary ways people can create economies that don't rely so heavily on the big financial structures in their current form. It also points out just how recent said current form of financial structures is and makes the simple point that what was once (actually many, many thousands of times) created can be recreated in any way "we" choose if there is concerted effort in appropriate manner. Few slightly wincey aspects but mostly interesting and worth a watch I'd say.
 
yeah i can see that merely using tor might in itself be enough to make you a person of interest. But as they heavily laboured the point that the more people that use it the more anonymous each user becomes i hope it becomes a much more mainstream thing. And even though it is possible to trace the people using it, it requires a lot more effort than would otherwise be the case? I didnt really notice the point about using tor correctly or incorrectly. AFAIK you just download the bundle and click "install" (probably means i was using it incorrectly :o:sus:)
 
^They didn't mention it on the doc but i think that new thing called MAIDSafe could be a much more successful next generation of the internet. Allows for a fully encrypted internet that doesn't use servers (the internet is distributed between all the users), encryption is built in (no password ever has to leave your computer); and it's got a digital currency built in (Safecoin - you earn ('farm') safecoins by giving a bit of your computer to run the network on). It seems like a more sophisticated type of coding too (using bottom-up decentralised complexity ideas, similar to ant colonies).

MAIDSafe overview

The scottish creator explains on the Keiser report (in the second half)
 
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Not recent (I missed it when first around), but has anyone seen that Louis Theroux where he goes to visit all those young kids on Ritalin etc? Just saw it on Netflix last night.

It's pretty disturbing. Basically all the parents on there are having their kids drugged to deal with their own inadequacies as parents. Towards the end Louis concludes that the kid seems more aspergers than ADHD and the parents say they're 'delighted', because it shows the drugs are working and they prefer that to what he was like before (i.e. a normal, argumentative kid).
 
have recently seen

The Unknown Known - interesting doc about Donald Rumsfeld. made by the same guy who made Fog of war (which is pretty nice in its own right)

Afternoon of a Faun - great doc about a prima ballerina, struck by disease at the peak of her career. Moving representation of the artist and people around her. id recommend this not only to the fans of the art
 
Saw The Secret of Oz the other day. Fascinating documentary telling what seems to be the secret allegorical message behind frank baum's wizard of oz (i thought it was going to be about dead midgets or pink floyd but no) - it was basically all about the money system (which was very current politics in us at the time). I won't give all the details, but accordiing to the theory, the yellow brick road represents gold-based money, the emerald city represents lincoln's greenbacks, dorothy's silver slippers represented US silver money (the film changed them to ruby for technicolor reasons) - i'll leave the other details for if you watch it (but it's quite compelling and covers quite a lot of the elements of the story).

The first (long) half is a doc about the history of money which is worth a watch on it's own (covering Rome's copper fiat money, Henry I's tally sticks, and other interesting stuff). It goes through the history of the american money system in detail in the 19th century leading up to Baum's time to help explain all the references (this history is also interesting). It's a bit american and i've heard much of the economics elsewhere, but fascinating; and weird to get a totally new meaning to something so familiar (if it's true - i didn't double check yet, but it seems pretty likely).
 
"What's In My Baggie?" - Documentary

Sorry if this has been posted already as I haen't been on here in a while. Just thought I'd share an interesting documentary I'm watching about the rise of misrepresented substances & research chemicals.

Plenty of mephedrone being sold as MDMA on here haha.



Enjoy!

Edit: Cheers for moving!
 
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