Going from Meth to 2CB for sex?

[Carbink]

Hey all, so long story short, I have had a meth and porn habit for several years now, but have been a month clean now. My partner wants me to stay off meth but is ok with me trying 2CB, Mushrooms, LSD, etc. From what I have heard, 2CB is pretty good sexually. I have some questions to ask.

1. Does 2CB make you last longer than when sober, like Meth does? (For the guys- does 2CB "tighten" your balls like Meth does"?)

2. Safety - Can you reagent test and fent test 2CB? I always Fent test my Meth. I have heard about Pink powder being called 2CB but being a mixture of stuff. I ONLY want 2CB. I just want to know how I can be as safe as possible so I know what I'm taking is real.

3. Is the comedown from 2CB easier on you than Meth? Meth can have some pretty nasty comedowns, depending on how much you redose.

4. I always drink/eat and/or boof my meth. Can the same thing be done with 2CB?

5. In comparison to Meth, how long does 2CB last?

Thanks for all your help!

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

1. it can - ive had a few times where i couldn't blow my load and other times where i blew a few loads - and no your balls aren't tight

2. yea you can test it

3. way easier - it kinda just ends and you have a pretty good afterglow somewhat similar to lsd

4. yes - i recommend boofing 2cb - it's way easier on your stomach, you don't need as much (18 to 25 mg is usually plenty when boofed) and it hits you much faster (15 minutes as opposed to about an hour)

5. it's about a 5 hour trip

 

[negrogesic]

The thing is...you can't use 2CB on a daily basis like you can with methamphetamine. 2CB will stop working, to a degree.

 

[garygroundwork]

2cb isn't as bad as meth because you don't crave it like meth. It's more like MDMA where u love it but after you want to take a break from it.

Play around with 2cb dosages in terms of sex. I've had it and felt really horny but ive also had it and been to munted to care about sex.

 

[Didgital]

2c-B is one of the more tactile and sensual psychedelics I've ever taken and can be used to enhance sex. However, less is more IME.

I would say 10mg. Everyone is a little different regarding dosage, but IMO you want to barely feel it.

At 25mg of the HCL salt, I had a full on out of body experience with a girlfriend once. I had to stop. It was embarrassing for me and disappointing for her.

 

[foodcrisis]

stimulants always kill my sex drive. the only thing that really makes sense to me is it's harder to cum, so i kind of have to get worked up, and that can be interesting or a good different experience, and supposedly girls like when dudes last longer... the amount of semen i have on adderall (never tried meth) is always like less than half of what i normally produce. i don't think psychedelics really affect sex drive or semen production. it's mostly a psychological thing imo, although people say vasoconstriction can occur i could see how that would affect some people. i never really notice that though. my dick always feels awesome on psychedelics and i feel like i do last longer, but the sensation is just crazy good feeling, not like adderall where i'm lasting longer because of struggling staying up... cumming on psychedelics can be a crazy experience too.. hope you like the rules your partner sets. good luck

also be careful with your dosing... i don't know how read up on psychedelics you are, but there is taking microdoses, then lighter doses that will cause mild hallucinations, it gets stronger and stronger and then you can also dose to the point where there is ego loss and sometimes that can get kind of confusing, crazy stuff can happen, and you might not be as interested in sex on higher doses.

if you are interested in longer experiences, definitely check out lsd and all of the analogues. you might like the body high from eth-lad if you like meth. that's a lsd analogue. some people say those are stimulating highs. you may be able to convince your partner this is alright to take. lsd and all the analogues are gonna last like 10-18 hours give or take a little depending on the person. i'm guessing you had longer experiences than the 2ci is gonna last with meth.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Sexshop dosages of Nexus/ 2c-B. Where 1/ 2 pills max, the pils contained 5 mg. Just drawing this from my hat, but at 15 mg its a Psychedelic. And the afrodisiac effect disolve or move to the back.

Very cartonish magical visuals, but not so erotic.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

i've yet to do anything less than 18 mg

i'll have to try the lower dosages one of these days

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

i haven't done the nexus flip either


what's the best way to do that?

i bet @unodelacosa knows


should i use mdma or mda with a nexus flip?

 

[emkee_reinvented]

i haven't done the nexus flip either


what's the best way to do that?

i bet @unodelacosa knows


should i use mdma or mda with a nexus flip?

You wanna do a nexus flip or a flipped nexus. NexusFlip imo is taking 2c-B and at the first alerts/ peak drop MD(M)A. Like a candyFlip is done with acid. Take acid wait for it to start working drop XTC. Way more intense then the other way around, so it depends on your preference. And goal, like for example using it for erotica.

The first is more like a very deep trip (LSD overpowers the MDMA, but they do merge) the other is going from a euphoric state slowly into a psychedelic state. Beginners i would advise the latter, after having tried them solely first. But its way less mind chattering starting on MDMA, other the sustitutes Methylone or 5-MAPB would be my choice as MDA I have little experience with and I would take solely. And MDA is a bit different then MDMA. Trippy sinister and outlasting 2c-B in duration.

 

[unodelacosa]

i haven't done the nexus flip either
what's the best way to do that?
i bet @unodelacosa knows

I have to disagree w/ @emkee_reinvented, respectfully of course. I think the order is best reversed: dose MDMA and then 2.5 hrs later dose 2C--Bsfddddf. Take the MDMA (or MDA, 5-APB, etc.) first. Coming up on MDMA is less anxiogenic than most psychedelics. Get to the full-on peak of the MDMA and at the 2.5-hour mark, drop the psychedelic, in this case 2C-B. As the 2C-B comes up it extends the duration of the roll and the anxiety is masked. Gradually the MDMA drops off and the 2C-B ramps up and takes over. The transition is smooth and the social aspects of the MDMA tend to stick around and imbue positivity into the trip. I can actually manage to communicate with a store clerk should I want to buy something, and there's no fear of this ahead of the event like I might feel on a psychedelic by itself. Well, maybe not 2C-B, but certainly shrooms or acid.

Don't expect to trip your face off, either. I suspect that the serotonin depletion plays a role in taking a bit of the edge off the psychedelic, but this isn't necessarily such a bad thing depending on your circumstances and environment. Regardless I usually up my dose of the psychedelic a bit to compensate for this. But for sure, candyflipping is 'flipping' from one drug to the other. When I was younger, I would go stupid hard in the paint sometimes and go MDMA → Shrooms → MDA → LSD, flipping back and forth in one evening into the next day while partying at a festival.

I've experimented different dosing orders, of course. Dosing them at the same time is called "trolling", a portmanteau of "tripping" and "rolling". Sometimes this works but it takes high doses of both and you're really, really fucked for a hot minute, but then it seems to all just stop at once, not sure why. I wind up doing bumps of K at that point and things start rocking again.

And then candyflipping from the trip to the roll, for me anyway, results in the trip getting its toes stepped on, so to speak, by the incoming MDMA. So it's like you deal w/the anxiety of the come-up of the psychedelic, but then you fuck off the peak. You get the worst part of the trip only. And then the roll never hits full-on, and I think the only way to make that work is to drop the psychedelic and then about 4-5 hrs later, drop the empathogen. But don't expect that get sexual if that's your goal. You're better off rolling first, then tripping, and then taking advantage of the fact that your social skills are intact while you trip. Then it can become an amazing sexual experience (though I still recommend a PDE5 inhibitor). At least this has been the case for me. As always, YMMV.

 

[unodelacosa]

At 25mg of the HCL salt, I had a full on out of body experience with a girlfriend once. I had to stop. It was embarrassing for me and disappointing for her.

It's a decent idea to use a PDE5 inhibitor for any "drugs + sex" combos where blood flow may be affected adversely by the drugs in question. Which drugs? Oooooooohhhhh how about alcohol, cocaine, meth, MDMA, MDA, 2C-B, psilocin, LSD, α-PVP, MDPV, 4-MMC, 3-MMC, 2-MMC, α-MT, Foxy, Moxy, Miprocin, Epracetin, etcetera, etcetera. Personally, I like Tadalafil and think its action is rapid, long-lasting in duration, and isn't pushy the way other PDE5 inhibitors are, but that's just my take on it. Everyone is different, some will agree, some will find other results.

Just don't get that Viagra stuck in your throat or you'll have a stiff neck. … Ah thank you.

On a serious note, Nexus was as brand name somewhere, maybe Japan or in Germany when the drug was sold as an aphrodisiac, IIRC.

 

[Carbink]

1. it can - ive had a few times where i couldn't blow my load and other times where i blew a few loads - and no your balls aren't tight

2. yea you can test it

3. way easier - it kinda just ends and you have a pretty good afterglow somewhat similar to lsd

4. yes - i recommend boofing 2cb - it's way easier on your stomach, you don't need as much (18 to 25 mg is usually plenty when boofed) and it hits you much faster (15 minutes as opposed to about an hour)

5. it's about a 5 hour trip

Thanks for the response! How do you test it? Like what kind of regeant test would I need to make sure what I’m getting is safe and legit.

My guinea pig only purchases through the dark web. And they have more experience getting ice than 2CB, obviously.

Disappointed about the balls not being tight. Part of what makes me horny on ice is the balls getting tight

 

[Carbink]

It's a decent idea to use a PDE5 inhibitor for any "drugs + sex" combos where blood flow may be affected adversely by the drugs in question. Which drugs? Oooooooohhhhh how about alcohol, cocaine, meth, MDMA, MDA, 2C-B, psilocin, LSD, α-PVP, MDPV, 4-MMC, 3-MMC, 2-MMC, α-MT, Foxy, Moxy, Miprocin, Epracetin, etcetera, etcetera. Personally, I like Tadalafil and think its action is rapid, long-lasting in duration, and isn't pushy the way other PDE5 inhibitors are, but that's just my take on it. Everyone is different, some will agree, some will find other results.

Just don't get that Viagra stuck in your throat or you'll have a stiff neck. … Ah thank you.

On a serious note, Nexus was as brand name somewhere, maybe Japan or in Germany when the drug was sold as an aphrodisiac, IIRC.

What’s better and safer, viagra or cialis? Personally, I just take Beet Juice and L-Citruline for that aspect (to help get hard).

Don’t have any experience with Tadalafil. Yep, heard of Nexus.

 

[Carbink]

Sexshop dosages of Nexus/ 2c-B. Where 1/ 2 pills max, the pils contained 5 mg. Just drawing this from my hat, but at 15 mg its a Psychedelic. And the afrodisiac effect disolve or move to the back.

Very cartonish magical visuals, but not so erotic.

Is Nexus/2CB a better aphrodisiac than magic mushrooms? And yes, I would start with a low dose.

 

[Carbink]

Anyone have a preference towards magic mushrooms versus 2CB in regards to porn/sex/kinky fetishes, etc? I feel like shrooms make me goofy and kinda tired too. Hard to explain. But maybe I just need better shrooms? Or is 2CB simply better as an aphrodisiac?

 

[emkee_reinvented]

So it's like you deal w/the anxiety of the come-up of the psychedelic, but then you fuck off the peak. You get the worst part of the trip only. And then the roll never hits full-on, and I think the only way to make that work is to drop the psychedelic and then about 4-5 hrs later, drop the empathogen. But don't expect that get sexual if that's your goal. You're better off rolling first, then tripping, and then taking advantage of the fact that your social skills are intact while you trip. Then it can become an amazing sexual experience (though I still recommend a PDE5 inhibitor). At least this has been the case for me. As always, YMMV.

Anxiety on Lysergics is not something taken in consideration, as it dont get them (do on Phenethylamines and Tryptamines) but some indeed do. So if you are prone to it, you are right. 2c-B gives me come up anxiety. And Meth-Ampetamine seems like anxiety is part of the effect and comedown, if it a bit like Amphetamine.

MDMA does cause some butterflies during the come up [little brother of anxiety] so for me its more the otherway round. Though ending with a psychedelic Lysergide [or 2c-T2] was always nice as it fitted so well with the MDMA afterglow.

Dropping MDMA at the peak of LSD [about after about a hour] was very (too) intense [that way it was supposed to be done, i read in a text], did try to make love, but being so distracted/ changes in our feelings, we stopped when it felt absurd.

Edit: adding some Durian, some Basil for the guys Erection when MDMA gives him tiny willy. Might help. Durian orgasms are pronounced, no placebo, ask any Indonesian and they'll confirm.

 

[JohnnyVodka]

Anyone have a preference towards magic mushrooms versus 2CB in regards to porn/sex/kinky fetishes, etc? I feel like shrooms make me goofy and kinda tired too. Hard to explain. But maybe I just need better shrooms? Or is 2CB simply better as an aphrodisiac?

Shrooms and 2c-b offer quite different experiences. I wouldn't say 2c-b pushes you in a sexual direction (unlike mephedrone or MDMA), but if you make the decision to explore that side of things, it has a lot to offer. I would go with a lower dose. I know pills aren't evenly dosed, but I would start with half your typical 2c-b pill for that kind of experience. Then you'll get a warm-ish buzz similar to MDMA that still allows you to get hard and finish. It was Ann Shulgin that said 2c-b is one of the most erotic drugs.

Re: porn binges. 2c-b and screens (at least close up) don't go together, unless you want to "feel" electricity off the screen.

 

[unodelacosa]

What’s better and safer, viagra or cialis?

Again – I like Cialis better. It's not as pushy, it comes on faster and the duration of action is much longer. Mind you: this is not to say you stay erect the entire time, just if you need to be erect it's absolutely no problem. For me Viagra is too aggressive. A breeze might pass through and hit me in just the right way and I'm like Whoa, calm down… But Cialis is bit more subtle compared to Viagra and Levitra. Some people prefer Viagra though for it's brevity and everyone's enzymes are a little different, so it might take some experimenting to figure out what works best for you.

Personally, I just take Beet Juice and L-Citruline for that aspect (to help get hard).

Yeah but PDE5 inhibitors are very specific in their action. They are wonderful performance enhancers.

Don’t have any experience with Tadalafil.

It's just Cialis, and it's my personal favorite PDE5 inhibitor; I'll take it over Viagra or Levitra. I only take a half of one, and I'm G2G. Start with the lowest dose you can manage.

Yep, heard of Nexus.

It's a cool word. What irks me is this Columbian garbage ppl call "Tusibi"

Is Nexus/2CB a better aphrodisiac than magic mushrooms? And yes, I would start with a low dose.

Yes, 2C-B is absolutely a better aphrodisiac than mushrooms, which I don't consider to be much of an aphrodisiac when compared to its peers like LSD, Mescaline, Foxy, Moxy, etc.

Anyone have a preference towards magic mushrooms versus 2CB in regards to porn/sex/kinky fetishes, etc? I feel like shrooms make me goofy and kinda tired too. Hard to explain. But maybe I just need better shrooms? Or is 2CB simply better as an aphrodisiac?

There's an undeniable sexual edge to 2C-B, but it's a sensual entactogenic phenomenon. Compare this to 5-MeO-MiPT, Methamphetamine, or α-PVP which tend to be more centered on kink and eroticism. GHB is another drug with a more sensual edge to it, like 2C-B. I see these as being somewhat different, but all of them are worthy of exploration if you use caution and harm reduction.

Put simply: yes, 2C-B is a better aphrodisiac than mushrooms, to me.

And Meth-Ampetamine seems like anxiety is part of the effect and comedown

Actually, that's the surprising thing about methamphetamine – it's not anxiety-riddled like other stimulants. If it's good, clean gear it has a really smooth, euphoric, and energetic high that is actually fairly anxiolytic itself unless your dose is too high.

Dropping MDMA at the peak of LSD [about after about a hour] was very (too) intense [that way it was supposed to be done, i read in a text], did try to make love, but being so distracted/ changes in our feelings, we stopped when it felt absurd.

I'm an advocate of dropping LSD at the peak of the MDMA experience about 2.5 hrs in, instead. This is the best way to candyflip in my humble opinion: 185 mg MDMA → (2 hrs.) → 25 mg 2C-B → (2 hrs.) → 125 mg MDA → (2 hrs.) → ~300 µg LSD → (6 hrs.)… The roll passes the sociability factor onto the trip and allows communication to stay in tact, which is crucial to facilitating sexual activity. Communication is key, and MDMA helps preserve that in the psychedelic state, opening up worlds of possibility, but the trick is to lead in with the entactogen/empathogen first to preserve the social awareness before the trip can get too far out there, making eroticism too challenging to attempt.

2c-B gives me come up anxiety.

That's why it's useful to mask the anxiogenic come up phase of any psychedelic with an entactogen/empathogen like MDMA, MDA, 5-APB, 5-MAPB, 6-APB, 6-MAPB, Methylone, 4-FA, that you take first. It keeps the headspace socially inclined.

It was Ann Shulgin that said 2c-b is one of the most erotic drugs.

She was also a big fan of 2C-B-FLY, and honestly, I am too. I think it's a kick-ass drug, but then I also like DOB. I just know what I'm getting into before I get into it is all…

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Actually, that's the surprising thing about methamphetamine – it's not anxiety-riddled like other stimulants. If it's good, clean gear it has a really smooth, euphoric, and energetic high that is actually fairly anxiolytic itself unless your dose is too high.


I'm an advocate of dropping LSD at the peak of the MDMA experience about 2.5 hrs in, instead. This is the best way to candyflip in my humble opinion: 185 mg MDMA → (2 hrs.) → 25 mg 2C-B → (2 hrs.) → 125 mg MDA → (2 hrs.) → ~300 µg LSD → (6 hrs.)… The roll passes the sociability factor onto the trip and allows communication to stay in tact, which is crucial to facilitating sexual activity. Communication is key, and MDMA helps preserve that in the psychedelic state, opening up worlds of possibility, but the trick is to lead in with the entactogen/empathogen first to preserve the social awareness before the trip can get too far out there, making eroticism too challenging to attempt.


That's why it's useful to mask the anxiogenic come up phase of any psychedelic with an entactogen/empathogen like MDMA, MDA, 5-APB, 5-MAPB, 6-APB, 6-MAPB, Methylone, 4-FA, that you take first. It keeps the headspace socially inclined.

Amazing a anxiety like free stimulant, wonder why it was labeled as having no medical value overhere (long ago).

My chemistry is kinda weird, besides Lysergics, Methylone and 2c-T2. All cause to a degree come up anxiety, Phens & Trypts have lasting tense feelings. The other emphatogens MDMA an 5-MAPB is just when of coming up and will dissappear pretty fast.

Your CandyFlip sounds tasty, mind candy. With the dosages adjusted a bit lower sounds better then other way around. Adding 2c-B and MDA, must make it really good.