Going from Meth to 2CB for sex?

[JohnnyVodka]

Is 2C-B a vasoconstrictor in the same way Meth is? Like with Meth, it’s hard to get hard, but it still feels good to stimulate yourself even when not hard. Is 2C-B like that?

On a "sensible" dose, no. 2c-b AFAIK isn't a stimulant (although you won't be able to sleep on it!). It's easy to get hard and finish.

 

[unodelacosa]

Is 2C-B a vasoconstrictor in the same way Meth is? Like with Meth, it’s hard to get hard, but it still feels good to stimulate yourself even when not hard. Is 2C-B like that?

No, it typically doesn't impede blood flow to erectile tissue. Either way, in both scenarios I recommend taking a PDE5 inhibitor like Cialis, Viagra, Levitra, etc. Personally I like Cialis (Tadalafil) the best because it comes on sooner, the duration is much longer, and overall it isn't a 'pushy' drug, so to speak. It's just available when you want to be hard. Think of them as performance enhancers. They also cause a little boost in endogenous testosterone, and just in general will make you feel slightly more confident.

2c-b AFAIK isn't a stimulant (although you won't be able to sleep on it!).

Well, no, not technically, although IIRC it does have some affinity for the norepinephrine receptor. And although it's mild, like most psychedelics, 2C-B can cause some degree of anxiety during the come up. It's not as bad as acid or shrooms though, to make a comparison.

It's easy to get hard and finish.

Agreed.

 

[Carbink]

On a "sensible" dose, no. 2c-b AFAIK isn't a stimulant (although you won't be able to sleep on it!). It's easy to get hard and finish.

Damn. So is edging feasible on 2C-B the same way Meth is? I actually LIKE the part about it taking a long time to finish. That’s part of the fun. Why rush, right? Usually have 10+ tabs open of porn (usually Spankbang). TMI…

 

[MedicinalUser247]

In my opinion sex would be better on Meth and I would take 2C-B if I wanted to listen to music. A little weed to go a long with it wouldn't be bad either.

 

[Carbink]

No, it typically doesn't impede blood flow to erectile tissue. Either way, in both scenarios I recommend taking a PDE5 inhibitor like Cialis, Viagra, Levitra, etc. Personally I like Cialis (Tadalafil) the best because it comes on sooner, the duration is much longer, and overall it isn't a 'pushy' drug, so to speak. It's just available when you want to be hard. Think of them as performance enhancers. They also cause a little boost in endogenous testosterone, and just in general will make you feel slightly more confident.


Well, no, not technically, although IIRC it does have some affinity for the norepinephrine receptor. And although it's mild, like most psychedelics, 2C-B can cause some degree of anxiety during the come up. It's not as bad as acid or shrooms though, to make a comparison.


Agreed.

I think I would probably try Cialis based on your recommendation. The thing I said above though too, is that I actually like not finishing too soon. I’m wondering if it’s feasible to have long sessions like one would have on Meth (you know, multiple SpankBang tabs open while getting yourself off slowly).

Part of the fun is not finishing too early. I do that enough when sober…

 

[unodelacosa]

I think I would probably try Cialis based on your recommendation. The thing I said above though too, is that I actually like not finishing too soon. I’m wondering if it’s feasible to have long sessions like one would have on Meth (you know, multiple SpankBang tabs open while getting yourself off slowly).

Part of the fun is not finishing too early. I do that enough when sober…

No see that's the thing – PDE5 inhibitors will just allow you to stay erect. You can edge all you want and prolong things indefinitely, although it's advised not to keep an erection for more than four hours due to potential blood clotting.

Why rush, right?

Well, masturbating is kind of a giant waste of time. I mean, it's fine here and there, but I just think some ppl get carried away, take too long and waste so much of their time on wanking that it's a bit of a shame. Life is short; time is precious. Carpe diem. But, as with most things in life, it's all about balance I suppose…

 

[Carbink]

No see that's the thing – PDE5 inhibitors will just allow you to stay erect. You can edge all you want and prolong things indefinitely, although it's advised not to keep an erection for more than four hours due to potential blood clotting.


Well, masturbating is kind of a giant waste of time. I mean, it's fine here and there, but I just think some ppl get carried away, take too long and waste so much of their time on wanking that it's a bit of a shame. Life is short; time is precious. Carpe diem. But, as with most things in life, it's all about balance I suppose…

Can I get Cialis anywhere? My local store, vitamin store, etc? It doesn’t have to be prescribed (As I thought Viagra and Levitra had to be too)

No see that's the thing – PDE5 inhibitors will just allow you to stay erect. You can edge all you want and prolong things indefinitely, although it's advised not to keep an erection for more than four hours due to potential blood clotting.


Well, masturbating is kind of a giant waste of time. I mean, it's fine here and there, but I just think some ppl get carried away, take too long and waste so much of their time on wanking that it's a bit of a shame. Life is short; time is precious. Carpe diem. But, as with most things in life, it's all about balance I suppose…

Can I buy Cialis at my local store or vitamin shop? You don’t have to have that, Levitra, or Viagra prescribed do you?

And as long as it’s safe to take Cialis with 2C-B I’m all for it! And yes, it’s not just about masturbation, but also pleasing the partner.

The benefit about 2C-B also seems to be the absence of the after effects, which Meth most certainly has. I like this aspect and look forward to trying it within the next couple of weeks.

 

[JohnnyVodka]

Damn. So is edging feasible on 2C-B the same way Meth is? I actually LIKE the part about it taking a long time to finish. That’s part of the fun. Why rush, right? Usually have 10+ tabs open of porn (usually Spankbang). TMI…

As I said earlier, don't expect to be able to watch porn on your PC/laptop on 2c-b. I find it doesn't go well with screens - you can feel the electricity from them. It's a totally different experience to porn and stims.

 

[Carbink]

As I said earlier, don't expect to be able to watch porn on your PC/laptop on 2c-b. I find it doesn't go well with screens - you can feel the electricity from them. It's a totally different experience to porn and stims.

What about a VR headset? Like the Meta Quest 3

 

[JohnnyVodka]

What about a VR headset? Like the Meta Quest 3

I dunno. Ymmv

 

[Mobin]

I only tried meth for two days but only mdma comes close not really though meth has even more of that candy feeling that makes mdma great for making milk come out your dingus. Even mdma/mda combo falls short. Just roll you terracotta pennis in paprika dust and apple cider vinegar for almost same results.

 

[unodelacosa]

I only tried meth for two days but only mdma comes close not really though meth has even more of that candy feeling that makes mdma great for making milk come out your dingus. Even mdma/mda combo falls short. Just roll you terracotta pennis in paprika dust and apple cider vinegar for almost same results.

You just need a PDE5 inhibitor to help you out is all. I like Tadalafil.

 

[Mabus]

It's a short-sighted thing to declare something as having no medicinal value. Fundamentally I cannot agree with this sort of assessment in the first place. Government's are some bullshit when they pull crap like this. Bad legislation abounds sometimes.


Yeah, I consider that the entry fee, the biological ticket price, so to speak, for the experience. I've learned to focus on making that energy excitement instead of anxiety, but all psychedelics are anxiogenic to an extent, that's definitely true. They can't help it though. They need to fire off some norepinephrine to jolt the nervous system into action, so it comes with the territory, as it were.


Admittedly, it's a bit of a high dose, but I tend to be a bit headstrong when it comes to mind-altering drugs. Worth noting, I weight 175 lbs., or ~79 kg or ~12.5 stone, if you prefer. I'm male, middle-aged but I have a fast metabolism. Adjustments should be made for your preferences, weight, age, metabolism, etc..


2C-B has appreciable affinity for the 5-HT2C receptor not just 5-HT2A, which is my pet theory as to why 2C-B doesn't seem to interfere as cross-tolerance to LSD, but LSD does so for 2C-B. In other words, I can take 2C-B first and it won't interfere with my acid trip if I take acid later. However, if I take the acid first, the 2C-B seems diminished when I take it later on. Does that make sense?

It seems a little over-the top, I realize, and this is not an every weekend kinda thing one should attempt; no doubt it's a little rough on the ol' noggin. But yes, that's the specific order I find works the best: start with MDMA and get your roll on. It feels lovely and you're taking advantage of your fresh, well-slept and nourished, sober brain. Right after the peak of the MDMA but before it's over, you dose 2C-B and let that come up over the MDMA roll; you won't even feel the rising come-up into psychedelia. Now enjoy that entactogen/psychedelia fusion for a few hours before flipping back into MDA, which is going to be a hard roll coming in hot after the MDMA and 2C-B fusion did its thing. MDA is gritty and the nystagmus is intense if you do this right. I'm talking about two-to-four-second-long eye-jitters that carve out jigsaw trails with bright lights in the æther around you. A good couple hours of grinding away on the MDA and it's time to drop the acid for the fireworks show finale, and this is where I recommend you not slack, but also use a reasonable approach. If you typically trip hard on two hits of acid, maybe drop three hits instead this time to make sure the LSD has the legs to jump over the rest of the candy in the flip.

Then it's up-to-you how you wanna land that spaceship – you can take it to Saturn by blowing lines of K and sinking into a hole while you listen to drum'n'bass and watch Bugs Bunny cartoons on mute, marveling at the synchronicities… or you can go the way of the benzo and surround your poor brain with a soft pillow of slumber and anxiolysis. You might not remember everything though once you drop the benzo, but then, were you really gonna remember those things anyways?

Dayum, that's a Candy Flip! Why opt for MDA in that combination? There's probably a thread explaining that, but MDA renders all my vitals flat, especially by day 3 where you have zero will to live and you completely forgot how much Heaven you had basked in...

 

[unodelacosa]

Dayum, that's a Candy Flip! Why opt for MDA in that combination? There's probably a thread explaining that, but MDA renders all my vitals flat,

Well the idea is that MDA and MDMA aren't fully cross compatible, and you can get away with this a little more easily than trying to slap more MDMA into the mix. But regardless I'm just telling you what works for me. Everyone is different.

especially by day 3 where you have zero will to live

Speak for yourself, and anyway, if that's the case, well, then this is why the Good Lord invented crystal methamphetamine. It's for those of us who have been up all night, those with titanium cajones, those who are chock full of true grit and in no mood for bullshit games. The less-inclined, the heartless and the talentless need not apply. It's not everyone who's cut out for this lifestyle, after all.

and you completely forgot how much Heaven you had basked in...

Honestly, I rarely black out and remember virtually everything. That's like why I don't understand propofol. If you forgot all the awesome experiences, what was the point in the first place? Experience without memory means nothing. And of course memory without experience is a sign someone has been brainwashed… or that they're in a Philip K. Dick novel.

PKD for the win!

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