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Going from hydromorphone, to oxy 40's to heroin? Need help fro harm reduction

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eminow

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I know, I should not touch heroin at all. But i have a serious illness and the doctors here do NOT want to keep me on long term narcotics so I get 7 hydromophone a week and they don't take into account how high my tolerance is now (those 7 2mg tablets are gone in one day). They also give me narco, which I was doing when the hydromorhone ran out and thank god I eventually found this forum and realized that the danger there was overdosing on.

But when I was on a dose of hydromorphone and narco that worked well, I got a little high, but not VERY high, and was actually able to stay up late and get a TON of work done.

Then I found an outside source that can basically only get my oxy time released 40's (for *snip, no price discussion* each, is that a rip off?), and those are such a bummer, bc, while they are great to have to ensure I don't feel sickness from withdrawl and DO help with the pain, I feel like I am missing that little rush I get-si I guess i do get a little high.

So today, my friend could only get my oxy 40's again, but he down brown tar heroin. So I he gave me a little of that. I have mixed it in water, dissolved it, and am taking small snorts of it every 15 mins or so. I also take klonopin .5 4xday and have already taken 3/I also take blacofen (a muscle relaxer).

I have Naltroxone, will that help if I overdoes? I am so freaked out about doing herion for the first time, and need to take a klonopin bc I really do have an anxiety disorder, but that is TOO dangerous, right? To mix the benzos and the herion? What about Baclofen and H?

What should I look for as far as pverdosing? I don't feel good like I do when I snort hydromorphone. I just feel tired and cross eyed and parinoid...

Any and all thoughts sooooo appreciates!
emi
 
Naltroxone isn't the same thing as Narcan (naloxone), but I believe it would reverse an overdose in a similar manner that Narcan would...I think. (Somebody correct if I'm wrong here...)

How long have you been taking Klonopin?
How long have you been taken baclofen?

Both Klonopin and baclofen can be dangerous when mixed with opiates (not just heroin). Heroin is a powerful opiate however, and since you don't know the purity of the heroin...you're going to want to not use Klonopin or baclofen your first time doing it, just to be safe.
 
If you are sincerely only switching to heroin because of pain relief issues then this will probably make your situation even worse. Your tolerance is going to raise, and you will not be able to afford the amount of drugs needed just to keep you from being in withdrawals. Also, the purity of heroin varies widely depending on the batch, so that will complicate things even more, as well as increasing the risk of overdose if one batch is a lot stronger than the last.

I suggest going to a pain management clinic if you don't think that your current doctor is treating your pain adequately. You should also explore other treatment options instead of just drugs.
 
Well, I already took 3 .5 klonopins today, 1 40mg oxy, and 3 10mg baclofen's today, and then dilluitted just the smallest amount of brown tar in water and have been snorting it every 15 minutes. My friend said it was really pure, I dilluded about half of a pencil eraser full, and have taken half, so far just tired, not feeling good or anything. Can I drink coffee on heroin? is that a stupid question?
 
I didn't find snorting dissolved tar to be affective. Just smoke it off Tin foil.
 
Tommyboy said:
If you are sincerely only switching to heroin because of pain relief issues then this will probably make your situation even worse. Your tolerance is going to raise, and you will not be able to afford the amount of drugs needed just to keep you from being in withdrawals. Also, the purity of heroin varies widely depending on the batch, so that will complicate things even more, as well as increasing the risk of overdose if one batch is a lot stronger than the last.

I suggest going to a pain management clinic if you don't think that your current doctor is treating your pain adequately. You should also explore other treatment options instead of just drugs.
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Do this.. Don't turn to drugs man. It will only turn out bad.
 
mrflowers00 said:
oxycontin is just as powerful as heroin the only difference is that heroin varies greatly in potency
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Well, since I have taken all the heroin I dissolved, and feel tired and a little onset of dopesick, I am guessing it is not working. I chewed my last oxy 40 at 2:30pm and it is 9:30pm now, so 7 hours ago. Should I just go ahead and take a oxy 40 time release to feel better? And ditch the heroin, or is it risky to take the oxy now? Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really am starting to feel that sick feeling, so I am guessin g The heroin is just not working...
 
Baclofen makes me bump into walls in the morning. If you take it with heroin, you may not wake up, for me, Baclofen is almost as strong as Soma........
 
TheLostBoys said:
Baclofen makes me bump into walls in the morning. If you take it with heroin, you may not wake up, for me, Baclofen is almost as strong as Soma........
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I don't think baclofen does much for me, but I just take 10 mg at a time. Should I ditch the heroin and take the oxy 40?
 
I guess i am thinking at this point if I have been doing so many benzos, muscle relaxers, and opiates than why is heroin freaking me out so much? I don't know what to do, just don't want to get sick.
 
I am thinking now that since I have a higher tolerance to oxy's, I must have a natural tolerance to heroin even though I have never done it? I just need to do more?
 
Please use the edit post function instead of creating multiple consecutive posts.

You will have a tolerance to heroin, like you would any opioid, if you are already tolerant to hydromorphone or oxycodone.

If your pain is not being managed well now, I guarantee you it will only get worse by switching to heroin. A huge part of pain management is being able to accurately measure a dose, which is next to impossible with street drugs.
 
Yep, I think I just have a tolerance to heroin since I have been taking opiates for many months. I was just too afraid to do too much. GOod news: I am still alive. I had a pill of naltroxone cut up and ready to to take 'just in case" that is how freaked out I was. Obviously not ready to do h and that is a good thing. I am going to give it away and just do the 40's to not be sick and try again to ween myself off these stupid (but lovely) painkillers.
 
I have been on Klonopin for 29 years and been on opiates/heroin 9 years. I have heard all the warnings but have never had trouble. If you do the heroin, just try a small amount at first. It may look the same but be 20x(example) stronger so be safe.
 
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