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Nice white knighting shambles. Now get a job, upgrade to broadband so people don't get infracted for embedding videos

Oh the horror!

Besides I never called BJ anything. I simply highlighted her own example and suggested that the term tranny wasn't the insulting or offensive term.
 
....except when we do, depending on who's saying it.8)

The irony here, is while the mods show such utter sensitivity to any transphobia so that the word "tr**ny" gives you a warning and I have also received an infraction for an even less serious reference... after reporting 4 of Ceres's posts mocking Christianity, I'm told it's ok because we're "stupid enough to have those views" and he's aloud to continue posting religious-themed abuse time and time again. (I'm not even making this up, I was told exactly that)


Anyway, regardless, just to chime in here, I do think "F*****" and T*****" are words most often used to treat people contemptuously and have very negative, mocking connotations - mods need to make all people feel they are comfortable posting here. I'd be disappointed if such terms were used publicly across the board.
 
It must be an English hang up because where I live transvestites aren't that big a deal. My first nurse 20 years ago was a drag queen for fuck sake.
 
Why do you allow this pick on the forum? He contributes nothing and just causes conflict...

You ban others for much less...

(that's directed to the mod team in general not anyone mod in particular)...
 
Jesus H fucking Christ. Every time I come here these days it's kicking off.

You know what I do when I feel mildly irked? Instead of bickering with people on the internets, I go for a run. By the time I get back I'm usually too fucked to even remember why I was irked in the first place.

Run before you post guys <3 :D
 
Faggot is a word with many meanings and connotations. If it's used within the context of homophobia then clearly there is a problem, otherwise I don't really think so. Seemingly this would be the logical application of context to me if it's the context that is oh so important. The same would apply to tranny and transphobia imo. If the words are being used outside of any discussion of homosexuality or transexuality then to me they are harmless. If they are used pejoratively within the discussion of said subjects then they are probably harmful.

It seems that would be pretty clear and a sensible way of integrating context rather than just handing out punishments to some people who use them and not others rather than making a decision based on who the person saying it is or whatever it was shambles was alluding to.
 
Contribute nothing? Do tell me how much of a great example you set for impressionable young drug takers out there. You are a train wreck who needs a good clip across the ears. I'm sorry your life is utter shit right now, a lot no fault of your own, but getting on your moral high horse is a bit rich I'm afraid.

I don't advocate to be the only voice of reason but at least I have the intestinal fortitude to call out irresponsible lifestyle choices when I see it. Without me there would exist a forum where no one would question the insanity of using their bodies as Guinea pigs for an endless procession of shit chemicals. A lot of you give drug taking a bad name. It's little wonder The Man wants to limit or ban anything with even the glimpse of fun. You sit here under the cloak of Harm Reduction when reality is most of you just enjoy getting fucked up, with no regards to your health or safety. At least admit to your self that is why you are here.

I don't ask or care if you agree with me or even like me to be fair. If you haven't noticed I'm not one to throw insults or name calling in any debate. I'll never tell someone they should fuck off or wish them harm. I do stand up for my moral and ethical beliefs though, and if you don't agree with my views I won't be losing any sleep over it to be perfectly blunt.
 
If you haven't noticed I'm not one to throw insults or name calling in any debate. I'll never tell someone they should fuck off or wish them harm.

Erm...let's go back to post 60 in this same thread.

No, he is a whinging cunt too who should suck it up and move on..... I can't think of anything more pathetic.

And that was behind my back when I wasn't even part of any 'debate'.

So, er, go fuck yourself and your lies/short-term memory deficit?

Kthx.
 
This whole pointless debate about semantics and my personal choice to use, for the very first time, a term that has been used to demean and degrade myself and anyone non hetero-sexual for at least as long as it's been possible for me to comprehend, in reference to myself as a tangible, physical symbol that I am no longer planning to hide parts of the person I always will be, sacrificing my own happiness because that happiness apparently offends some members of society, could have been avoided, and was avoided by everyone else, if only people would remember that:

A) The context forms the intention and provides the background whether referring to sexuality with one's tongue firmly in their cheek or having a chat about the world economy and impact of terrorism.

B) My use of terms in reference to myself and my being Moderator are two completely separate things.

C) Simply because I Moderate this forum does not make my personal view the view of the staff, the forum, myself or anyone else any more correct.

D) Ascribing extra weight to my posts, or that of any Moderator, is not what the position means, and is a massive mistake.

E) The very term "Moderator" is remarkably close to "Moderate", and quite far away from "Dedicated Personal Offense Nazi", and to me that little bit of common sense helps form how I approach the task. Moderately. No extremes, and that refers to all possible views, be they one's I agree with, my own, one's I disagree with, those of posters I care for as people or those of posters I may not personally like. This debacle simply proves why the task is approached in this way.

F) This forum is not simply for those of us who spend half our lives here, but for anyone at all, provided they act like a grown adult, to read the 6.6 million contributions people have made over the years on an almost infinite range of topics and learn from, and possibly contribute themselves.

G) "This is why the forum's gone to shit" is not the same as "Our views on the matter are opposing", and the staff are told a good half dozen or so different reasons daily, quite often it's the go to comment that is tacked onto a matter of personal disagreement. I welcome anyone to post in the dedicated Sticky that is specifically there for you guys to add constructive criticism, as this forum is bigger than any of us, and the comments in there are what we as a staff team have to rely on some times.

H) I'm a career drug addict once I log off this forum, and many of my posts on the forum are about my issues with substance use, so my conduct tends to be slightly erratic at times.

I) No one is above the rules, and I actually messaged another Mod, via personal social media, who wasn't even online on BL to read over the first few relevant posts before I replied. My view is subject to my emotional filter and I needed to ensure I wasn't simply being an irrational dickwad. I requested an infraction if I was incorrect.

J) The actual reason we've seen a reduction in posters over the last few years is that we seem to have forgotten the intention behind this forum's existence - to provide facts and advice to those who need it more than any other on topics that are complete taboo anywhere else. Instead we have devolved into a bunch of familiar faces using this site as a soapbox for any sad, contrived bullshit we can somehow tie into a more valid point with zero consequence to our physical selves, but potentially at great cost to people we don't even know are reading. My plan for today was to write up a Sticky on Naloxone Administration and dispel some of the myths that surround it. Instead I've spent it watching people I care greatly for argue over things they actually understand, trying to calmly type replies that are clear to both members and lurkers, all the while feeling responsible for every life lost because of time wasted acting like a parent to grown adults can't agree to disagree, put their self aside for the good of the forum, or just fucking log out when they get the urge to throw their toys out of the pram.




I wouldn't even have to be a Moderator if this forum didn't become a parallel of a prison riot whenever there is a disagreement.
Every single one of us could die tomorrow, I'd prefer it not to be because we wasted a golden opportunity to help others.
 
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This whole pointless debate about semantics and my personal choice to use, for the very first time, a term that has been used to demean and degrade myself and anyone non hetero-sexual for at least as long as it's been possible for me to comprehend, in reference to myself as a tangible, physical symbol that I am no longer planning to hide parts of the person I always will be, sacrificing my own happiness because that happiness apparently offends some members of society could have been avoided, and was avoided by everyone else, if only people would remember that:

A) The context forms the intention and provides the background whether referring to sexuality with one's tongue firmly in their cheek or having a chat about the world economy and impact of terrorism.

B) My use of terms in reference to myself and my being Moderator are two completely separate things.

C) Simply because I Moderate this forum does not make my personal view the view of the staff, the forum, myself or anyone else any more correct.

D) Ascribing extra weight to my posts, or that of any Moderator, is not what the position means, and is a massive mistake.

E) The very term "Moderator" is remarkably close to "Moderate", and quite far away from "Dedicated Personal Offense Nazi", and to me that little bit of common sense helps form how I approach the task. Moderately. No extremes, and that refers to all possible views, be they one's I agree with, my own, one's I disagree with, those of posters I care for as people or those of posters I may not personally like. This debacle simply proves why the task is approached in this way.

F) This forum is not simply for those of us who spend half our lives here, but for anyone at all, provided they act like a grown adult, to read the 6.6 million contributions people have made over the years on an almost infinite range of topics and learn from, and possibly contribute themselves.

G) "This is why the forum's gone to shit" is not the same as "Our views on the matter are opposing", and the staff are told a good half dozen or so different reasons daily, quite often it's the go to comment that is tacked onto a matter of personal disagreement. I welcome anyone to post in the dedicated Sticky that is specifically there for you guys to add constructive criticism, as this forum is bigger than any of us, and the comments in there are what we as a staff team have to rely on some times.

H) I'm a career drug addict once I log off this forum, and many of my posts on the forum are about my issues with substance use, so my conduct tends to be slightly erratic at times.

I) No one is above the rules, and I actually messaged another Mod, via personal social media, who wasn't even online on BL to read over the first few relevant posts before I replied. My view is subject to my emotional filter and I needed to ensure I wasn't simply being an irrational dickwad. I requested an infraction if I was incorrect.

J) The actual reason we've seen a reduction in posters over the last few years is that we seem to have forgotten the intention behind this forum's existence - to provide facts and advice to those who need it more than any other on topics that are complete taboo anywhere else. Instead we have devolved into a bunch of familiar faces using this site as a soapbox for any sad, contrived bullshit we can somehow tie into a more valid point with zero consequence to our physical selves, but potentially at great cost to people we don't even know are reading. My plan for today was to write up a Sticky on Naloxone Administration and dispel some of the myths that surround it. Instead I've spent it watching people I care greatly for argue over things they actually understand, trying to calmly type replies that are clear to both members and lurkers, all the while feeling responsible for every life lost because of time wasted acting like a parent to grown adults can't agree to disagree, put their self aside for the good of the forum, or just fucking log out when they get the urge to throw their toys out of the pram.




I wouldn't even have to be a Moderator if this forum didn't become a parallel of a prison riot whenever there is a disagreement.
Every single one of us could die tomorrow, I'd prefer it not to be because we wasted a golden opportunity to help others.

Are you really expecting anyone to read all that?
 
In all honesty sprout I believe you are overthinking this moderating business. You are better off just being entertaining rather than running around editing posts for perceived offense. Member numbers are no reflection of you. Have you ever thought that being a degenerate drug user is just not that popular anymore? For Christ sake this place even tolerates evey, who has been run out of more corners of the internet that most pedophiles.

I'm not really a fan of censorship or heavy application of rules. Personally I don't use the word faggot because it's not really that great an insult. It's something a drunkard uses at a kebab shop with no real bite or impact. I'm all for stepping if someone is being unfairly picked on, but shaking a stick like a schoolmaster only highlights how little authority one really has. Leaders should lead, not push.
 
Otw..... You know nothing of my life. I don't throw about bigoted names to decent people. Every post you make you show yourself to be a bigger and bigger prick. I don't need to insult you cos your doing a good enough job of it yourself
 
I wasn't the one who popped his head out to take a shot at me.

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