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Sobriety wouldn't be so bad if I didnt have mental health problems. I cant deal with the anxiety sober sadly. But even if I had no health issues, still not t total forever sobriety. I'd still fancy something to take the edge of, or just to feel different to normal every now and then.

This was posted on Bluelight maybe over 10 years ago now:

The Intoxication Instinct:

Excerpt:

Siegel believes there is a strong biological drive to seek intoxication. "It's the fourth drive," he says. "After hunger, thirst and sex, there is intoxication." Whether we are seeking pleasure, stimulation, pain relief or escape, at the root of this drive, he says, is the motivation to feel "different from normal" - what has sometimes been called "a holiday from reality". Some people reach this state through travel, books, art, roller coasters, sport, religion, exploration, love, social contact or power. Others use intoxicants. "It's the same motivation," says Siegel. "We wouldn't live if we didn't seek to feel different."

I'm sure some people have not read it. Change that! Its really compelling stuff. Basically saying it's natural to take drugs. Other animals do it. Theres a lot of good info. Thus a good read :)
 
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Certain diplomatic plates aren't on the DVLA register, same with certain Gov agency cars (police, anti terrorism etc)
The thought did cross my mind. The chances of encountering a diplomatic car is much less than just a civilian car with personalised plates. Slim but not impossible.
 
Sobriety wouldn't be so bad if I didnt have mental health problems. I cant deal with the anxiety sober sadly. But even if I had no health issues, still not t total forever sobriety. I'd still fancy something to take the edge of, or just to feel different to normal every now and then.

This was posted on Bluelight maybe over 10 years ago now:

The Intoxication Instinct:

Excerpt:



I'm sure some people have not read it. Change that! Its really compelling stuff. Basically saying it's natural to take drugs. Other animals do it. Theres a lot of good info. Thus a good read :)

Thanks for linking this. I've had this view for many years, it's good to see something scientific does in fact back it up.

It only makes sense logically. There has never in the history of humanity been a totally sober society. Our current society may very well be the most anti-drug in history (what's that country where there's literally kill squads going after drug users again?) but yet we don't realise prohibition of psychoactive substances is a very novel idea. You can even go to the Royal Pharmaceutical Society in London and see they have a little museum in there containing original Bayer Heroin bottles, various cocaine based medicines including cough drops, even speedball cough drops, cannabis tincture, laudanum, chlorodyne, and all of it was sold OTC.

And what I especially like is they put the old medicines next to the new, so you got Heroin cough syrup next to bottles of Oramorph and they have a jar of opium poppy pods as the common origin, they have boxes of Ritalin next to cocaine, and all that basically says that we use the same essential drugs in medicine today just in different forms. It is actually pretty interesting to me just how little things have truly changed. There has been more change in social views than the actual drugs themselves.

What's that like?

Phenibut is perhaps the best social and sexual drug about imo. It keeps you clearheaded but gives you a shitload of confidence, no anxiety, and enhances physical sensation. Also helps you sleep like a baby. Lasts all day long easily too. Used to be able to get it off eBay as a "nootropic" before the PSA fucked that one up.
 
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Haha. Not his fault to be fair. He got a deal. Parliament are intent on fucking things up and stopping any real progress being made.

I thought it was completely laughable they passed legislation to eliminate no deal from being an option. What total bollocks. Talk about weakening our negotiating power.

I didnt vote in the referendum but I do feel it was democratic and the people made their choice. To leave...obviously. I think its ridiculous this push for another referendum. I think its ridiculous the remainers not accepting the will of the people. Did I mention I'm opinionated too?

I was leaning to vote Leave in the referendum but I wasnt sure enough so I abstained.

But I can categorically state, after seeing how the EU has treated us since the referendum, I'm all for leaving now. Fuck them. The interfering, smug, spiteful fucks.

I want no part of some superstate with grand ambitions such as forming it's own army, I never want the euro, always been against the centralisation of power in general. They have really pushed my buttons on the whole issue. Constant fear mongering in the news, some independent and guardian article headlines could have came straight from the onion.

It never ends. Extension after extension. It's all I see on the news and when I read my left leaning online news publications mentioned above. Maybe that's the problem. I should switch to the Express or the daily mail. Even if wanting to leave the EU is the only non left position I hold. We have issues in this country that are not getting the time spent on them because of Brexit, Brexit, BREXIT! The state of the NHS, poverty, homelessness, stabbing epidemics, lack of social housing, universal credit being a pile of shit... to name a few.

Get the fuck out so we can move on and spend time and energy fixing our NHS, country/society etc. For the love of God!
 
Thanks for linking this. I've had this view for many years, it's good to see something scientific does in fact back it up.

It only makes sense logically. There has never in the history of humanity been a totally sober society. Our current society may very well be the most anti-drug in history (what's that country where there's literally kill squads going after drug users again?) but yet we don't realise prohibition of psychoactive substances is a very novel idea. You can even go to the Royal Pharmaceutical Society in London and see they have a little museum in there containing original Bayer Heroin bottles, various cocaine based medicines including cough drops, even speedball cough drops, cannabis tincture, laudanum, chlorodyne, and all of it was sold OTC.

And what I especially like is they put the old medicines next to the new, so you got Heroin cough syrup next to bottles of Oramorph and they have a jar of opium poppy pods as the common origin, they have boxes of Ritalin next to cocaine, and all that basically says that we use the same essential drugs in medicine today just in different forms. It is actually pretty interesting to me just how little things have truly changed. There has been more change in social views than the actual drugs themselves.



Phenibut is perhaps the best social and sexual drug about imo. It keeps you clearheaded but gives you a shitload of confidence, no anxiety, and enhances physical sensation. Also helps you sleep like a baby. Lasts all day long easily too. Used to be able to get it off eBay as a "nootropic" before the PSA fucked that one up.

It's a brilliant piece. It made so much sense (still does) and helped me understand that the activities I was engaging in at that time (weed, acid, shrooms, ket, MDMA... when I was in my early 20s) weren't 'bad' or wrong despite one friend giving me constant grief and our country's fucked up laws/the war drugs. My parents never judged me thankfully. I think I was lucky in that respect.

I agree it seems recently (relatively speaking) like we've taken a step back regarding drug legality. It's a shame. But I cant decide whether it's by design, the war on drugs. Wearing a tinfoil hat right now. Are they really so stupid or arrogant to think this 'war' can be won? Perhaps it's not meant to be won.

Big pharma doesnt want drugs legal due to competition, especially from weed. Alcohol and tobacco industries don't want competition.

Entire government agencies in the USA (the DEA) would be shut down or massively downsized. I have a feeling these 3 letter government agencies have a huge amount of influence. Their head guys dont have 8 year term limits like the president. Countless peoples jobs depend on the war raging on. The prison population which is sadly in many privately run operations, a lucrative slave labour force in the USA, is a huge industry. The country with the highest % of their citizens incarcerated in the world right? Aren't most inmates in for drug related charges? Would they be pardoned if drugs were made legal? If not that would cause some outrage I'm sure. If non violent drug offenders were released that would disrupt the cash cows that have been built up. If no more incarcerations occurred due to drug use being legal that too would further effect their bottom line.

whenever large industries with clout and earnings are at risk or peoples jobs/livelihoods are threatened, they will fight back. They may already be greasing politicians hands, or just making their stance known... behind closed doors. People/companies with loads of wealth can just donate vast sums to a candidate they want to see win an election.

then theres the admitting they got it wrong all these years. Countless deaths, imprisonments, lives ruined, police time wasted. People in jail for what would no longer be considered a crime, wanting freedom maybe even payouts. It would be a huge admission of failure and the government doesnt like to admit failure. It would be a huge task too. It's far easier to stick to the failing but familiar war on drugs than to literally tear apart the rule book and start again.

finally there is fear, often created as a result of the war on drugs and consequences of prohibition, that there will be people ODing everywhere, addicts will litter the streets and everyone will be off their merry chops 24/7. Society itself would collapse! People wouldn't go to work, just take drugs, there would be far more drug driving too. The amount of drug users would skyrocket etc.

I'm sure all these fears are either massively exaggerated or just aren't substantiated at all, but I think politicians believe them and probably the majority of the public?

you aren't going to get to be PM or the president if you run with one of your manifesto promises being 'we are going to legalise all drugs'. I just dont think it's a vote winner.

The very idea that I should be told what I can and cant put into my own body, and punished for choosing not to listen, is beyond disgraceful, frankly. Its downright criminal. The burocrats making the laws, the police enforcing them, the courts convicting drug users are all far more guilty of immoral acts than a consenting adult choosing to ingest a chemical. Its nauseating when you really think about it. Ugh
 
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I got a whole thread on Brexit going on another part of BL if you wanna join in?
I'd give you my view on it but EADD isn't suited to that kinda talk imho, it's all about obscure drugs & cussing other forum members.

I welcome you to post on my thread & you can read what I think on Brexit, I voted to leave but DON'T get that twisted in your mind as I sure didn't want these Eton fucks to come along & wreck everything. I'd not piss on Boris if he was on fire & Labour are just as bad. I truly hoped for "freedom" but NOPE I got fucked like a 10pence whore on that one.
 
It's a brilliant piece. It made so much sense (still does) and helped me understand that the activities I was engaging in at that time (weed, acid, shrooms, ket, MDMA... when I was in my early 20s) weren't 'bad' or wrong despite one friend giving me constant grief and our country's fucked up laws/the war drugs. My parents never judged me thankfully. I think I was lucky in that respect.

I agree it seems recently (relatively speaking) like we've taken a step back regarding drug legality. It's a shame. But I cant decide whether it's by design, the war on drugs. Wearing a tinfoil hat right now. Are they really so stupid or arrogant to think this 'war' can be won? Perhaps it's not meant to be won.

Big pharma doesnt want drugs legal due to competition, especially from weed. Alcohol and tobacco industries don't want competition.

Entire government agencies in the USA (the DEA) would be shut down or massively downsized. I have a feeling these 3 letter government agencies have a huge amount of influence. Their head guys dont have 8 year term limits like the president. Countless peoples jobs depend on the war raging on. The prison population which is sadly in many privately run operations, a lucrative slave labour force in the USA, is a huge industry. The country with the highest % of their citizens incarcerated in the world right? Aren't most inmates in for drug related charges? Would they be pardoned if drugs were made legal? If not that would cause some outrage I'm sure. If non violent drug offenders were released that would disrupt the cash cows that have been built up. If no more incarcerations occurred due to drug use being legal that too would further effect their bottom line.

whenever large industries with clout and earnings are at risk or peoples jobs/livelihoods are threatened, they will fight back. They may already be greasing politicians hands, or just making their stance known... behind closed doors. People/companies with loads of wealth can just donate vast sums to a candidate they want to see win an election.

then theres the admitting they got it wrong all these years. Countless deaths, imprisonments, lives ruined, police time wasted. People in jail for what would no longer be considered a crime, wanting freedom maybe even payouts. It would be a huge admission of failure and the government doesnt like to admit failure. It would be a huge task too. It's far easier to stick to the failing but familiar war on drugs than to literally tear apart the rule book and start again.

finally there is fear, often created as a result of the war on drugs and consequences of prohibition, that there will be people ODing everywhere, addicts will litter the streets and everyone will be off their merry chops 24/7. Society itself would collapse! People wouldn't go to work, just take drugs, there would be far more drug driving too. The amount of drug users would skyrocket etc.

I'm sure all these fears are either massively exaggerated or just aren't substantiated at all, but I think politicians believe them and probably the majority of the public?

you aren't going to get to be PM or the president if you run with one of your manifesto promises being 'we are going to legalise all drugs'. I just dont think it's a vote winner.

The very idea that I should be told what I can and cant put into my own body, and punished for choosing not to listen, is beyond disgraceful, frankly. Its downright criminal. The burocrats making the laws, the police enforcing them, the courts convicting drug users are all far more guilty of immoral acts than a consenting adult choosing to ingest a chemical. Its nauseating when you really think about it. Ugh

I agree with all you've said. Nixon invented the "war on drugs" as a political tool and ever since you have government organisations that depend on it and private companies that benefit from it. So now they've made up lies to justify it. It's a story as old as politics itself. “One lied, mendaciously inventing reasons for these laws, simply to avoid admitting that one had become used to these laws and no longer wanted things to be different.”

What gives me hope is that views are changing, albeit slowly. Cannabis being legalised around the world, MAPS in a few years will have MDMA FDA approved as a medicine, many clinical trials around the world have been on done on mushrooms and acid recently too.

Saw an article recently which compared social views in the UK on various topics from 1989 and 2019. Here's the results:

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As you can see "use of soft drugs" is only considered "immoral" by 29% of the population currently, compared to 60% in 1989. That is a significant difference and shows a change in social attitudes.

Politicians being what they are chase votes. Since the UK has no equivalent of the DEA there's no reason they wouldn't put out a manifesto saying they'll legalise cannabis if they think it'll win the youth vote. The Lib Dems already did this. I am honestly surprised Labour has not. I can even see the Tories backing it on the basis of the free market and so on. But any political change would need to happen once this Brexit business is out of the way.

Point is though I am optimistic and do see plenty of room for change. It won't happen overnight. But I believe it will happen.
 
Seducing white girls into Negro dens of iniquity, they go weak at the knees for Reefer & Jazz music, it must be STOPPED for the sake of humanity!!!!

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Honestly looking at that image today and watching Reefer Madness it all seems like a fucking parody. But it's a good thing we've come so far that this fairly recent history seems so crazy to us. It shows the kind of progress I'm on about.

I mean cannabis is practically decriminalised in the UK right now already in real terms. Government can't do shit about it when even the police refuse to give a toss. And that's all because the social attitudes towards cannabis are increasingly permissive.
 
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