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🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 Gibberings ver. CCXIX - "what's new, c*nty chops?"

Perkins : Reborn said:
Stockport always looks depressing, apart from that delicious bus station.

Underneath one of those buildings there's a time capsule. I put a can of CS gas in there. Surprise!
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Yeah, parts of the A6 near the nearest to the shopping centre are still dreadfully run down, with so many abandoned looking, scruffy, derelict buildings.

But then as you travel further up the road towards and into Hazel Grove the whole thing is being regenerated at quite a pace, with many new businesses replacing the derelict buildings. Hopefully they'll do something about the A6 near the town centre, as they have ambitious plans for the area near the viaduct and that new mid-rise red building that's gone up. But you'd think they'd also want to improve the appearance of the main road through the town centre, although I've not seen or heard of any plans regarding this.
 
Bleaney said:
Yeah, parts of the A6 near the nearest to the shopping centre are still dreadfully run down, with so many abandoned looking, scruffy, derelict buildings.

But then as you travel further up the road towards and into Hazel Grove the whole thing is being regenerated at quite a pace. Hopefully they'll do something about the A6 near the town centre, as they have ambitious plans for the area near the viaduct and that new red mid-rise building that's gone up. But you'd think they'd also want to improve the appearance of the main road through the town centre, although I've not seen or heard of any plans regarding this.
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What will we do without the Turkish / Kurdish barbers, all the phone shops and the takeaways?
 
No WiFi for days now. The girl whose flat it's in appears to have switched it off and gone home for Christmas. Just like you do with communal WiFi. It's been on the blink for ages, so I suspect she's doing it regularly. Younger generation, etc.
 
Bleaney said:
Hey, I'm genuinely seeking further clarification on this, rather than trying to argue the toss. And I hope it goes without saying that it's about the policy, and not a personal issue with you.

So with my posts that got removed, if I'd added or began with some kind of clearly defined caveat along the lines of, 'I'm not generalising about the entire Muslim population of these areas, as I would imagine the problems I refer to are based on the actions of a minority of that population, which are unfortunately creating a bad impression of the areas as a whole' and then carried on to say '......but, the areas which are most densely populated by these populations have been documented to seemingly have the worst problems in the area for fly tipping', would my posts have been allowed to stand?

It was poor form and slack of me to use the embarrassingly clichéd old "I'm not being racist, but......" line, without further clarification, and maybe I was subconsciously testing these newish waters. We've all got to be up to speed with these now, as to how exactly things need to be stated, not only to avoid online censorship, but also to avoid causing offense, or coming across as ignorant, bigoted, or just not keeping up with things, in everyday conversation.
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Pretty much tbh. You can report your anecdotal observations as much as you like - it was the (paraphrasing slightly) “it’s not racism, it’s just a fact” part that really rubbed the wrong way.

As long as you make it clear you are reporting on personal experience rather than generalising to entire populations you’re probably the right side of the line.

Same logic applies to other removed posts by other members.

FWIW, the Muslim shop owners across the street not only clean their own rubbish into appropriate bins, they also pick up after litterers leaving their shite in the vicinity. They even sweep the street outside their property.

Do all Muslims do the same? Definitely not, but I’m not implying they do. See? :)
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
@Shambles you missed one mate! :LOL:

(Though I suspect you tend to agree... ;))
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Attacking semi-historical/semi-fictional characters is fair game. Attacking all those who follow the belief system is off-limits.

Jesus is a fictional character at the head of a mind-control cult = no problem

Christians rape choirboys = not allowed.

Large numbers of Christians rape choirboys = simply a fact ;)
 
Perkins : Reborn said:
I saw a squad of Muslim shopkeepers sweeping shit on to the road the other day. Loads of 'em.
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Perfect example of stating an anecdote without generalising :)

Talking shit about Muslims is fine, just with the implicit - or explicit - caveat included that the comments are simply that: anecdotal and limited.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
People make generalisations based upon their own experience. We ALL do it, that's life.

Just look at the shit that scousers get :LOL:
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That is definitely true and I honestly do struggle with where lines are drawn. Tbh, I’d probably remove posts similarly worded that implied all Scousers were jobshy thieves. Yeah, if I moderated all comedy the seventies would’ve been a very different time ;)
 
Shambles said:
That is definitely true and I honestly do struggle with where lines are drawn. Tbh, I’d probably remove posts similarly worded that implied all Scousers were jobshy thieves. Yeah, if I moderated all comedy the seventies would’ve been a very different time ;)
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I'm from the other lot and I always think we have more in common than we generally acknowledge.
 
OK thanks @Shambles, I get you with your explanation of my example.

But as per your own post above I think I would also struggle to know where to draw the line in every or all cases. I was previously admiring your clarity about where to draw the line, but then you admitted that you're just as human as the rest of us :LOL:. It does get tricky in some cases, and the more you think about it, the more tricky it can become in some cases. I guess or hope it will become kind of instinctive. But that wont be good enough if proper explanations are required.

It's kind of useful to see my own prejudices and / or communication deficits highlighted, regarding this, and it's a relatively easy self-improvement action to try to remember to correct this in future.
 
Perkins : Reborn said:
I'm from the other lot and I always think we have more in common than we generally acknowledge.
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I honestly think everybody has a lot more in common than we realise. Not suggesting cultural differences don’t exist, of course, but I have far more in common with working class Muslim - or even a scouser 8o - than I do with a CEO.
 
Bleaney said:
OK thanks @Shambles, I get you with your explanation of my example.

But as per your own post above I think I would also struggle to know where to draw the line in every or all cases. I was previously admiring your clarity about where to draw the line, and then you admitted that you're just as human as the rest of us :LOL:. It does get tricky in some cases, and the more you think about it, the more tricky it can become in some cases. I guess or hope it will become kind of instinctive. But that wont be good enough if proper explanations are required.

It's kind of useful to see my own prejudices and / or communication deficits highlighted, regarding this, and it's a relatively easy self-improvement action to try to remember to correct this in future.
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Oh I’m painfully human - some would say distinctly sub-human 😃 - and I try to be fair-minded when dealing with these kinda issues.

Believe it or not, I’m really not into purity testing so much as treating others with respect. Mass generalisations remove individuality from the picture so can never be respectful even in cases of “positive generalisation” (“Asian students are innately better at maths” and the like).

No group is a monolith and I don’t think any of us like to be lumped in with “our kind” - even saying it feels icky tbh :!
 
Shambles said:
I honestly think everybody has a lot more in common than we realise. Not suggesting cultural differences don’t exist, of course, but I have far more in common with working class Muslim - or even a scouser 8o - than I do with a CEO.
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The problem we have is that certain cultural differences have helped facilitate egregious behaviour because it was thought that highlighting the ethnicity of the main perpetrators would be deemed discriminatory.
 
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Perkins : Reborn said:
The problem we have is that certain cultural differences have helped facilitate egregious behaviour because it was thought that highlighting the ethnicity of the main perpetrators would be deemed discriminatory.
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You mean the “grooming gang” thing? I agree ethnicity should not be a barrier to reporting facts.

The fact of the matter in those cases is that there is over representation of Pakistani men in three specific areas of the country.

There is over representation of “White British” men in far more areas of the country.

I wouldn’t say either culture is more likely to rape children due to culture though. I wouldn’t lump you or I in with that over representation - partly as I very much doubt you would identify as “British” but mostly because it would be a ridiculous generalisation based solely on quirks of any given data set.

I totally agree that mentioning that Pakistani men are over represented in those three specific parts of the country is fair game, just that it requires a little context to “de-racism” it in order to present a more accurate picture.
 
Shambles said:
You mean the “grooming gang” thing? I agree ethnicity should not be a barrier to reporting facts.

The fact of the matter in those cases is that there is over representation of Pakistani men in three specific areas of the country.

There is over representation of “White British” men in far more areas of the country.

I wouldn’t say either culture is more likely to rape children due to culture though. I wouldn’t lump you or I in with that over representation - partly as I very much doubt you would identify as “British” but mostly because it would be a ridiculous generalisation based solely on quirks of any given data set.

I totally agree that mentioning that Pakistani men are over represented in those three specific parts of the country is fair game, just that it requires a little context to “de-racism” it in order to present a more accurate picture.
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I actually do identify as British. I was born and brought up here.

What I believe that nobody mentions is the Islamic attitude to sex. It's totally unnatural, and totally geared to men when they do finally get married and all of that.

Sexist bullshit. Which is only going to create misogyny and all this shit.

And if a non-muslim woman is fair game, then that's practically subhuman.

Fuck the sand prophet and all sand prophets.
 
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