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Mailmonkey said:
I know, I get all this subversive druggy shit from my son's viewing habits, I've posted this before, but I'm still astounded it's on kids TV....I know people look back at 1970's kids programmes and claim Bungle was a PCP head, and zebedee was on wizz etc, but Adventure Time doesn't bother being oblique in its references..... DMT Dimensions - Adventure Time
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Really weird show, good after a toke though reminds me of something off Adult Swim.
 
Reading a thing on the BBC News site & I've came across this cunt again. Can't fucking stand him & his nonsense patter. I know it is highly unlikely anyone will be able to but can someone try to explain Schrodinger's cat to me?

From the BBC

Two cats in a box
Refers to 1935 thought experiment by Austrian theoretical physicist Erwin Schrodinger
Involves hypothetical situation of cat in sealed box with vial of cyanide gas capped by radioactive atom, which would release poison once decayed
Under quantum theory, atom could be in both states - decayed and non-decayed
Only by looking in box would you know cat's fate
If you did not look, you would have to consider cat both dead and alive
Illustrates paradox of quantum mechanics
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Seriously, what the fuck is this all about? If the "atom could be in both states" then whoever made up quantum theory is a fucking mong. Clearly it is non-decayed, until it decays, then it becomes decayed & the cat dies. If I didn't look in that box I would still know for a fact that the cat was alive until sufficient time had passed for the atom to decay, at which point I would know for a fact that it was dead. What am I missing here?
 
parttime crackhead said:
Reading a thing on the BBC News site & I've came across this cunt again. Can't fucking stand him & his nonsense patter. I know it is highly unlikely anyone will be able to but can someone try to explain Schrodinger's cat to me?

From the BBC


Seriously, what the fuck is this all about? If the "atom could be in both states" then whoever made up quantum theory is a fucking mong. Clearly it is non-decayed, until it decays, then it becomes decayed & the cat dies. If I didn't look in that box I would still know for a fact that the cat was alive until sufficient time had passed for the atom to decay, at which point I would know for a fact that it was dead. What am I missing here?
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This is why your "common sense", "I know I'm right because it's not fucking ridiculous" stuff doesn't work for me. You claim to believe in science, yet you don't know how unreasonable science can be.
 
I don't believe in that Schrodinger shite though. Here it is explained quite well.

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/n...hysics-is-schrodingers-cat-dead-or-alive.html

The cat is both alive & dead until I look at it? Fucking bullshit. It's either one or the other, regardless of me looking at it or not.

I don't claim to "believe in science" to the point that every single thing a scientist hits out with I must believe. I don't believe that there is both an alive & a dead cat in a box until I look, at which point nature decides which one it'll be. That's a load of shite. Stupid theory.
 
Schroedingers cat was mentioned on The Big Bang Theory. That's about all I know about it, also don't get how it's both alive and dead.

EDIT: Just watched that video, explains the theory but I still don't think the cat is both alive AND dead, it's one or the other I just haven't looked to find out. I'm guessing that's where the saying "curiosity killed the cat" came from then?
 
parttime crackhead said:
I don't believe in that Schrodinger shite though. Here it is explained quite well.

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/n...hysics-is-schrodingers-cat-dead-or-alive.html

The cat is both alive & dead until I look at it? Fucking bullshit. It's either one or the other, regardless of me looking at it or not.

I don't claim to "believe in science" to the point that every single thing a scientist hits out with I must believe. I don't believe that there is both an alive & a dead cat in a box until I look, at which point nature decides which one it'll be. That's a load of shite. Stupid theory.
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Good video, I like how they expand the quantum uncertainty to outside the box, to include the observers, and the observers of the observers.

It may be a stupid theory but a lot of very high tech uses it and works.
 
It's a similar concept to 'If a tree falls in a forest, and nobody hears it, does it make a noise?'. It's a philosophical analogy as much as a scientific one.
 
Albion said:
It's a similar concept to 'If a tree falls in a forest, and nobody hears it, does it make a noise?'. It's a philosophical analogy as much as a scientific one.
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I don't know. Noise happens when pressure waves in air meet the eardrums of a living animal. If a tree falls in a forest it will always create pressure waves but if they don't meet an eardrum there will be no noise. No conundrum there!

EDIT Sorry PTCH I disagree, sound is not energy, it's a perception in a brain. Pressure waves do contain energy though.
 
Place a tape recorder there. Run the output into an oscilloscope. You'll see the waveform, therefore see the sound, so you know it's there even though no-one has heard it.

Quantum mechanics is quite clearly beyond me. So I'm willing to admit that I'm too stupid to understand this Schrodinger shite but the tree in the forest one is easy. It definitely does make a sound.

badandwicked said:
Until you look in the coffin he's both dead and alive.
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Hahaha =D. I should have seen that coming.
 
Exactly the sound is our interpretation of the vibrations caused when the tree falls...If there's nothing that hears it, there will be no perception of the 'noise'.
 
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