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Gibberings CLXXV - Talk about Phil Mitchell

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Three types actually - Cyclothymia (which Stephen Fry has) is another type.

Sometimes the line between the different diagnoses is arbitrary too. I show features of types I & II.
 
class-a-team said:
Disappointingly normal :(



Nah it was fine I just literally had no desire to use the loo at all. Really odd.

I would only really recommend getting "high" on nutmeg if you're looking for flu-like symptoms though. 8)
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Finally some answers! I bet Sam is disappointed with your reply. I think he was after something a lot more descriptive. I sensed a very sinister undertone with his question ;)

No desire to use the loo as in; you were too blissfully spannered on nut-meg to give a shit if you wet yourself? You felt a tinge in your bladder, looked up at the toilet in desperation, but then suddenly another crushing wave of nut-meg euphoria swept over you and the worries of needing the toilet just melted away
 
class-a-team said:
Ah yeah but I don't know how you would compare cyclothymia to the hallucinating type of bipolar this person has.
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That sounds like severe Bipolar I; the manic phase in particular. Obviously that's more disabling than Cyclothymia in one sense, but Cyclothymic depression can be equally as severe as that of someone with BP1. It's a complex spectrum condition. I only know this much because of my obvious 'personal interest', like.

Spliff Politics said:
Finally some answers! I bet Sam is disappointed with your reply. I think he was after something a lot more descriptive. I sensed a very sinister undertone with his question ;)
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You know me too well. ;)
 
Sammy G said:
Three types actually - Cyclothymia (which Stephen Fry has) is another type.

Sometimes the line between the different diagnoses is arbitrary too. I show features of types I & II.
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Sorry if this is a bit personal, but ive always been curious; earlier on in your life would you have chosen to have the manic episodes along with the inevitable lows or would you have preferred to be more leveled out? I say earlier on, as obviously now your on lithium. I dont mean to be intrusive or anything so sorry if it comes off that way.
 
Spliff Politics said:
Finally some answers! I bet Sam is disappointed with your reply. I think he was after something a lot more descriptive. I sensed a very sinister undertone with his question ;)

No desire to use the loo as in; you were too blissfully spannered on nut-meg to give a shit if you wet yourself? You felt a tinge in your bladder, looked up at the toilet in desperation, but then suddenly another crushing wave of nut-meg euphoria swept over you and the worries of needing the toilet just melted away
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Lol

Try it and see for yourself ;)
 
I regularly dont shit for 4 days at festivals and that pretty much comes out as liquid when i get back - same sorta thing? The most frustrating thing is; its not even satisfying once you do it! I remember coming back from my first festival thinking to myself "Corr blimey, cant wait to have a shit and a wank". Hardest decision is which one to do first when you get in through the front door. Decided for the shit and it left me feeling so disappointed i didnt have a wank for a week. What a bloody 'mare that was 8(
 
Spliff Politics said:
Sorry if this is a bit personal, but ive always been curious; earlier on in your life would you have chosen to have the manic episodes along with the inevitable lows or would you have preferred to be more leveled out? I say earlier on, as obviously now your on lithium. I dont mean to be intrusive or anything so sorry if it comes off that way.
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No apologies necessary.

It's one I still can't really give a definite answer to, because while I know that the manic me wasn't the real me, it felt more real and vibrant than anything. To feel totally blessed by the universe, part of some ineffable 'secret', feeling telepathic communications (and seeming to transmit them), thinking that everyone in the world wants to bang you - well, it's a pretty good way to feel. Normality can feel dreary by comparison.

Then I look at all the hurt I've caused, all the people I've upset, all the wasted potential, all the embarrassing incidents and, well, I don't miss 'that guy' so much anymore.

The lows just seem like a void: entire years of which I barely remember a thing.
 
Spliff Politics said:
I regularly dont shit for 4 days at festivals and that pretty much comes out as liquid when i get back - same sorta thing? The most frustrating thing is; its not even satisfying once you do it! I remember coming back from my first festival thinking to myself "Corr blimey, cant wait to have a shit and a wank". Hardest decision is which one to do first when you get in through the front door. Decided for the shit and it left me feeling so disappointed i didnt have a wank for a week. What a bloody 'mare that was 8(
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class-a-team said:
That's a great story you should tell it more often =D
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Hahaha. You should, definitely. tell it to ya grandkids and everything
 
Sammy G said:
No apologies necessary.

It's one I still can't really give a definite answer to, because while I know that the manic me wasn't the real me, it felt more real and vibrant than anything. To feel totally blessed by the universe, part of some ineffable 'secret', feeling telepathic communications (and seeming to transmit them), thinking that everyone in the world wants to bang you - well, it's a pretty good way to feel. Normality can feel dreary by comparison.

Then I look at all the hurt I've caused, all the people I've upset, all the wasted potential, all the embarrassing incidents and, well, I don't miss 'that guy' so much anymore.

The lows just seem like a void: entire years of which I barely remember a thing.
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Oh right i wasnt aware that whilst people were in the manic state it isnt considered as 'the real you'. So do you see that part of you as part of your personality or simply a byproduct of the mental condition? As someone who is often quite emotionally flat, i would most probably trade that for extremes at opposite ends of the spectrum; although perhaps not as extreme as yours sounded. Grass is always greener, right?

Anyway, thanks for the explanation so far; is most interesting!
 
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rickolasnice said:
Depression, by definition, supersedes personal circumstances. It isn't just feeling sad about something.
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Depression, in reality, is very heavily interrelated with personal circumstances... but have accepted in some cases, perhaps this one, there is an exclusivity.

As I said, I really don't know enough about Robins life or condition to make a judgement on his choices.
 
parttime crackhead said:
^ Robin Williams killed himself, not Robbie. The reaper must have fucked up his paperwork.
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Obviously I know it was Robin Williams not fucking Robbie Williams, was on so much diphenidine I could barely remember my own name let alone the exact spelling of two people with very similar names and was in an awful state. Glad you took the opportunity to make a snarky comment at my expense though, would have prefered a bit of support or reassurance but taking the piss was obviously the next best course of action to take, cheers mate.
 
Spliff Politics said:
Oh right i wasnt aware that whilst people were in the manic state it isnt considered as 'the real you'.
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That's why it's considered an illness, and not just natural behaviour. :D

Spliff Politics said:
So do you see that part of you as part of your personality or simply a byproduct of the mental condition?
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The latter. Otherwise I'd be diagnosed with a Personality Disorder rather than Bipolar. Although I would probably meet several of the criteria for one PD or another on a bad day, but then so would everybody.

Which is not to say that 'me' disappears when the condition takes hold - it's just that when it does so, it can distort your perceptions so violently that to all intents and purposes, you become the disease.
 
raas_2012 said:
Depression, in reality, is very heavily interrelated with personal circumstances... but have accepted in some cases, perhaps this one, there is an exclusivity.

As I said, I really don't know enough about Robins life or condition to make a judgement on his choices.
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Sounds like you really don't know enough about depression to comment about it, either.
 
He was also a notoriously heavy user of coke and alcoholic - I suppose it's quite tricky to make a differential diagnosis of bipolarism in the circumstances.
 
spudgun said:
He was also a notoriously heavy user of coke and alcoholic - I suppose it's quite tricky to make a differential diagnosis of bipolarism in the circumstances.
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Very, very true. Though if a shrink were to draw up a list of bipolar patient's drugs of choice, those two would be near the top, if not right there.
 
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