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ColtDan said:
Nah but 10 years experience with gantry/overhead cranes, certified operator & slinging/banksman

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Yeah I'm pretty good on those grabber machines too, won a fluffy smurf once.%)
 
Sammy G said:
I haven't 'called you names'. I've criticised your attitudes and opinions, which is part and parcel of a discussion. It's a distinction I believe you continually fail to make, and it's to the detriment of your standing on this forum and the positive contributions you have to make.

Thank you for your expression of sympathy. It's appreciated, despite the heated exchange.
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Saying I'm ignorant is calling me names - but let's forget it now n agree to differ.

Evey
 
Sammy G said:
Besides the quite obvious underfunding and the consequences thereof, I feel I've been treated splendidly by NHS mental health services.

It can take a lot of time patience and sometimes a bit of assertivess on the part of the patient, but it can work well for people with certain conditions. I'm not saying every trust is the same; that's be ridiculous. There's an awful lot which the NHS can offer though.

And that's from somebody who once would have described the available NHS services as 'paltry' at best.

Evey: Fling 'em my way.
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do they know youre taking heroin, etiz etc regularly ontop of your script?
 
@ lurching:

What I meant by that question was, he might not be singing their praises so much had he been honest about his current extra consumption (he may have been honest, but I'd hazard it's doubtful, it'd be interesting to know either way).

IME the NHS don't appreciate honesty so much, and 'understanding' and patience goes out the window when it's employed in such circumstances. Not enough professionals are drug users, textbooks tend to be slightly deficient when it comes to prescribing realities.

Translation: He hasn't got to justify shit to me, and I'm not trying to get him to do so, I'm just interested in the realities of the statement he made
 
I don't really see your point Marmalade. The NHS is shit because you can't tell them you like to order in a bag of gear every so often? (I'm pretty sure that's not what you're saying tbh, but I'm not sure what you are saying)

I don't really see how Sam sneaking some recreational stuff in on top of his script (and possibly not being able to tell his gp/whoever) has any bearing on the quality of care he has received from the NHS.
 
Both my GP and the psychiatric team know all about my drug use. The former even took a blood test when my arms were covered in tracks and an abscess.

With certain mental health conditions, substance abuse / 'self-medication' is a given. I'd be the only bipolar on their books without a drug or alcohol problem if I didn't have one - in fact it's part of the diagnostic criteria.

So yeah, they're interested in my drug use, but primarily as an indicator of my mood and any worrying fluctuations. The same goes for sexual behaviour, eating, physcial activity, etc. They've been particularly encouraged by the reduction in my overall drug intake.

Thank you for your unsolicited, continued and close interest in this subject.
 
parttime crackhead said:
I don't really see your point Marmalade. The NHS is shit because you can't tell them you like to order in a bag of gear every so often? (I'm pretty sure that's not what you're saying tbh, but I'm not sure what you are saying)

I don't really see how Sam sneaking some recreational stuff in on top of his script (and possibly not being able to tell his gp/whoever) has any bearing on the quality of care he has received from the NHS.
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That's because sometimes crackhead, youre dumb as fuck. Or maybe you havent been following Sam's case, or the parts he's posted about anyway, or what he's scirpted or why. I didn't include the occasional spliff in there for the very reason you brought up.

I'll leave that for Sam to elaborate on if he chooses.

Off to run the dog.
 
Cheers cuntchops. I ask you for a bit more of an explanation on your (now clearly wrong) assumption and I get called dumb as fuck. Have fun walking the dog.

Sammy G said:
Both my GP and the psychiatric team know all about my drug use. The former even took a blood test when my arms were covered in tracks and an abscess.

With certain mental health conditions, substance abuse / 'self-medication' is a given. I'd be the only bipolar on their books without a drug or alcohol problem if I didn't have one - in fact it's part of the diagnostic criteria.

So yeah, they're interested in my drug use, but primarily as an indicator of my mood and any worrying fluctuations. The same goes for sexual behaviour, eating, physcial activity, etc. They've been particularly encouraged by the reduction in my overall drug intake.

Thank you for your unsolicited, continued and close interest in this subject.
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I would say you're owed an apology after what Marmalade was trying to imply.
 
so you have monthly tests for H, benzo levels etc?

iirc, you mentioned the doc not being aware of the track marks cos theyd disappeared by the time you were going for an app that you missedso were relieved.

Could be mistaken tho

Or nurse not being aware, since docs don't do bloods, nurses do

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and I'd say to you crackhead, once a year, maybe twice, youre in need of a reminder that you are not your trainers.
and you looked WAY too much into what I was infering btw. But youre obviously bored and wanting drama. Summer will probably be around in a bit, so I'll leave you to have a lazy 'poke' at her when she arrives.

toodles
 
A diary? She keeps a fuckin' dossier.

I'm not a drug services patient, Marmalade. I'm not being treated for drug addiction. So why should I have to test 'clean' of other drugs when it's ony the lithium level (and occasionally electrolytes and kidney function) that matters?

The drugs are my problem, not the NHS'. And I'm not considered a 'problem user' either.

Would you rather we subnormals were drug tested as a matter of course? Protect society from undersirables or summat? :D
 
I really should have wiped more thoroughly earlier, my stress levels are through the roof cos of these caked-up hairs near my taint. My brand of laxatives seem to make the sphincter leak but hey, the codeine buzz they allow me is worth it. Off for another shower.
 
Sam/PTCH you both entirely missed my point. ENTIRELY.
Which was about the NHS, not Sam's integrity (which isn't news that I think is shady as fuck.)

I'll elaborate later if I can be arsed. But it's highly doubtful since I'll be well spangled by then.

Lurching, as always, has a point, and I'm always open to that (esp. his) <3

really gone now. gonna get muddy as fuck, but eh, whippets must whip it.
 
Are you having a bad day Marmalade :?

I choose to keep quiet about my drug use when i have to attend occasional mediaction reviews. It would open up a whole new avenue of problems, complications, concerns and barriers to me getting my SNRI on repeat. If any of the GPs had the time or inclination to check through my history they would find it all there, but clealrly none of them do so, as its never brought up.
 
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When a client / patient is on a script what usually happens is that they have to take a urine test every time they see the doctor (sometimes when they see their keyworker but that depends on the keyworker and the situation, I don't!)

If a client is struggling with cravings and is still taking / thinking about opiates they bump up the script until the person no longer has cravings / feelings the need to use. Of course, some clients will abuse this and I suppose some ISPs are stricter but that's how it works in the one I'm at... You tell them you've been taking opiates or are struggling with cravings they get you in the doctor and have your script bumped up. They'd rather you be stabilised on script than taking illicit drugs and or committing crimes or getting ill. In fact they've had people on script for years; one was on methadone for 9 years... I've been on suboxone since May 23, 2013!

For me, I wasn't just craving codeine I was craving alcohol and taking a lot per day in which bumping me up to 12mg suboxone killed cravings for both alcohol and opies.

Hope that helps about drugs and script...

Evey
 
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