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Gibberings CLXVI - You go away for a weekend...

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Shambles said:
Can people really not separate actions from other, more valuable characteristics? Throw away at least half your album collections and books immediately if so.

That aside, just to clarify editing your posts, MK. I know there are oddities of which sites are and are not allowed to be linked to and have no answer to it cos it is nonsensical. Such is life. That site is on the verboten list though so no more linkies please.
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Because it's a streaming site? Sorry didn't know about that, won't post it again.

But the documentary is called Oxyana, I'm watching it right now, fucking hell some parts of rural America have been seriously been affected by oxy abuse, incredible, it's like Italy from the 70s onwards with smack, whole communities being destroyed.

Anyway if you were to decide to judge musicians or artists because they pull girls hair you wouldn't be left with much, also shagging 16 year olds? I honestly think 97% of famous musicians has done worst with their fickle fans.
 
Mental Kenny said:
Anyway if you were to decide to judge musicians or artists because they pull girls hair you wouldn't be left with much, also shagging 16 year olds? I honestly think 97% of famous musicians has done worst with their fickle fans.
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Bragging about shagging 12 year old boys and girls in that interview, and animals, and raping people on stage... plus in that footage hes dragging her around by the hair... If thats a legend then your deluded. each to their own though n all that.

Anyways sleep dep is creeping in ontop of a comedown, time for a nap... or try at least...
 
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Very jealous that Chatative is gonna see Dream Theater. I've only seen them the once but it was a fantastic show. One of my all time favourite bands.

In other news, I see that Dan is on his period. Again.
 
ColtDan said:
Bragging about shagging 12 year old boys and girls in that interview, and animals, and raping people on stage... plus in that footage hes dragging her around by the hair
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He also liked to exaggerate wildly in order to rile gullible people. He never raped anybody on stage, nor did he fuck animals or twelve-year-olds.

Look at the type of TV shows on which he appeared to say such things and decide for yourself whether there's a deep, biting irony at work.

Alternatively, he's just a guy who liked to fling shit and piss people off who's just succeeded in pissing you off over twenty years after his death.
 
If calling raas and kennys cunts makes me appear to be "on my peroid" then so be it, couldn't give a shit tbh
 
If only a couple of girls would have sucked his dick when he was a kid he would probably have turned out pretty normal. Definitely had some pretty severe woman issues going on.

I don't know whether it's because I've been desensitised by the internet but I find the whole thing kind of mundane. I liked the bit with his ex guitarist where he's talking about how if he wasn't so small minded he could have utilised the adoration poured on to him by the hoardes of losers he attracted to create some real carnage by starting a cult or something but wasn't smart enough to do anything like that.

I guess that even though it wasn't that long ago it was a different age where people found someone taking a dump on stage and throwing it around shocking and different. If he was born today I don't think people would even notice him.
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
If only a couple of girls would have sucked his dick when he was a kid he would probably have turned out pretty normal. Definitely had some pretty severe woman issues going on.

I don't know whether it's because I've been desensitised by the internet but I find the whole thing kind of mundane. I liked the bit with his ex guitarist where he's talking about how if he wasn't so small minded he could have utilised the adoration poured on to him by the hoardes of losers he attracted to create some real carnage by starting a cult or something but wasn't smart enough to do anything like that.

I guess that even though it wasn't that long ago it was a different age where people found someone taking a dump on stage and throwing it around shocking and different. If he was born today I don't think people would even notice him.
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I find that shocking, not to mention pointless and gross.
I found no redeeming feature about him to be honest. Came across as a total knob really
 
gayorstraight said:
I find that shocking, not to mention pointless and gross.
I found no redeeming feature about him to be honest. Came across as a total knob really
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I don't find it shocking but I agree otherwise. Like I say, just a pretty mundane and boring attempt at being edgy.
 
Mental Kenny said:
Because it's a streaming site?
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I honestly have no idea how it's decided. Or even if it is. Sites which have a lot of Hollywood films and current TV shows (particularly ones from subscription channels) are not allowed. Yes you do find films on sites which are allowed but as Google apparently decided to exempt itself from copywrite laws and only enforce them on other sites they don't happen to own we appear to have adopted their policy.

That aside, I totally agree on the judgement of artists (or indeed anybody else) thing. People's actions may be repellent - may even be justly prosecutable - but what they produce and who they are are different things and should be considered with at least some degree of separation. It's actually rather worrying if people really are so superficial as to go purely by superficial things and have no interest in digging deeper. I doubt many of us would stand up to scrutiny if our private thoughts and moments were made public.

Sammy G said:
He also liked to exaggerate wildly in order to rile gullible people. He never raped anybody on stage, nor did he fuck animals or twelve-year-olds.

Look at the type of TV shows on which he appeared to say such things and decide for yourself whether there's a deep, biting irony at work.

Alternatively, he's just a guy who liked to fling shit and piss people off who's just succeeded in pissing you off over twenty years after his death.
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That. It's fairly obvious the confrontational attitudes and actions were part of a persona. Part of a rather deeply rooted persona perhaps - or perhaps not if you listen to people that knew him personally. There is method in that madness. There is meaning and message. I have a suspicion that the actions and attitudes are largely there to make a point and quite deliberately push people away to see who isn't pushed away and who does think to look a lil deeper. It's not a bad way to filter people albeit somewhat drastic. There would be plenty other ways to interpret such things too - that's what makes him a fascinating character.
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
If only a couple of girls would have sucked his dick when he was a kid he would probably have turned out pretty normal. Definitely had some pretty severe woman issues going on.
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He had more severe 'issues' than any bit of pop-psychology can summarise, but he pretty much did the 'normal' thing, settled down and got married before progressively losing it in his twenties.

So no, it's not that old 'should've got laid more' bullshit in this case.

omen_owen mk2 said:
I guess that even though it wasn't that long ago it was a different age where people found someone taking a dump on stage and throwing it around shocking and different. If he was born today I don't think people would even notice him.
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ALL of his 'antics' had been well and truly done to death at least a decade before GG - the New York performance art scene, not to mention Iggy Pop with the shit flinging.

GG has a cult following because the tunes were actually good. Guess it just ain't for you, which is all well and good.
 
Sammy G said:
He had more sever 'issues' than any bit of pop-psychology can summarise, but he pretty much did the 'normal' thing and got married before progressively losing it in his twenties.

So no, it's not that old 'should've got laid more' bullshit in this case.



ALL of his 'antics' had been well and truly done to death at least a decade befoe GG - the New York performance art scene, not to mention Iggy Pop with the shit flinging.

GG has a cult following because the tunes were actually good. Guess it just ain't for you, which is all well and good.
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I thought it was BL that had the server issues
 
The tunes are shit my friend, like you say it was nothing that hadn't already been done better by people years before him.
 
If he didn't eat his own shit or rub it all over himself then I wouldn't have any opinion on him really.

It the shit stuff, really off putting
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
I don't find it shocking but I agree otherwise. Like I say, just a pretty mundane and boring attempt at being edgy.
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Totally agree. It's a completely contrived LOOK AT ME I'M DOING A JOBBY AREN'T I SHOCKING? kind of thing.

Shambles said:
That aside, I totally agree on the judgement of artists (or indeed anybody else) thing. People's actions may be repellent - may even be justly prosecutable - but what they produce and who they are are different things and should be considered with at least some degree of separation. It's actually rather worrying if people really are so superficial as to go purely by superficial things and have no interest in digging deeper. I doubt many of us would stand up to scrutiny if our private thoughts and moments were made public.
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His music was fucking dreadful as well though.
 
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