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Maybe a hospital visit is worth your while anyway?

You're right not to take any more xanax, as that'll just lead to extreme rebound issues. Beyond that it's really difficult to say. Panic attacks are a fucking horrible thing to have to deal with.

Is there anywhere you could go and have a scenic walk? I know that sounds pathetic, but it has helped me in the past. Maybe not in such extreme circumstances though. :(
 
Pagey sweetheart its going to be ok this will pass. Clean up and try bandage your hand. It's worth getting hold of beta blockers from a doc if you can to deal with the physical bit of the panic attacks and anxiety. Stay on and chat with folks honey, it'll hopefully help. If the feeling worsens please seek medical help.

Hugs x
 
Yeah a bit of just trying to meditate on your breathing and your stomach rising and falling with your breathing, and becoming aware of all the parts of your body, from your head down to your feet; mindfullness meditation, and trying to not get trapped up in spirals of thought/letting go of them. Far easier said than done i know. Also the scenic walk along a beach or anywhere remotely pleasant outdoors in the sunshine is a good idea, as is talking to someone/going to the doctors would probably help massively. You have sunshine and warm beaches there, that could really help.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
yeah i think everyone who sticks around eventually finds the subforum where they feel they fit in best, or get on with, or get to know more people, on some kind of level. I dont doubt that TDS probably has its regulars and characters just like EADD does, just that most of the topics being discussed are not really conducive to putting me in a happy and positive frame of mind, as many people there are in a bad way.
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I have some perspective on that and would pretty much agree with your assessment.

TDS and the recovery forums in general are dealing with those who, in the main are dealing with problematic drug use and it's effects as well as those trying to resolve problems with addiction.

In that sense it's not trying to be the type of social forum that EADD is, that kind of the whole point in having different forums across the site focusing on different things, one forum can't be all things to all people.

In the recovery forums it's important to apply a different set of posting rules, the ones that relate to triggering or glorification of drug use are the most obvious but strict rules around piss taking and 'tough love' need to be applied to protect the vulnerable.

BL isn't about abstinence or demonsing recreational drug use, as most of us appreciate, the majority of people using illegal substances won't run into problems and won't really need to visit the recovery forums, some that have issues seek support IRL and may not want to visit, but in order for BL to have a rounded approach I think those forums provide an essential part of the site.

It's not all doom and gloom over there but I can understand why it can read that way. If anyone has suggestions for improvements to any forum my advice would be to PM a moderator in that forum or use the support area that Sammy_G linked to.
 
Pagey, I'd get to a hospital if you can, or walk in centre and get some mental health advice numbers. Same happened this weekend to me. Lost it and slashed my arm up bad enough to need stitches. Was hysterical but the nurse calmed me down, gave me some local resources, got talked to by the nurse over it too, and it gave me the courage to finally get my addiction sorted too. I know that's all obvious and maybe patronising but it's the best way, be good to have some support that's consistent while you're away. Idk what the healthcare situation in Aus is but try find some free counselling just to talk shit through. Or just finding anyone to talk to who'll understand, whether it's people here or there or whetever. It's hard but it passes. Keep busy. MDB and Funkhouse are right on with the mindfulness and meditation/breathing too. Helps immensely. Wish you the best <3 x
 
EADD has a mix of uplifting/lighthearted threads as well as the more serious posts from people with varying degrees of problems associated with their drug use or mental or physical health. In general people with problems are treated well over here, but a certain degree of 'thick skinnedness' is essential as some people dont half speak their minds pretty robustly. Some times thats easier to deal with than others. But in general, provided you dont get aggressive and lashing out at other people, or overly repetetive or annoying in any way, then practically anything goes.

I have only made brief visits to TDS but every thread seems to be 'ive got this very serious problem' and not so many 'this is how i solved my problems' type things. Thats probably unfair but tbh i find it unhealthy and hard to deal with all the doom and gloom without getting dragged down by it. You need to be stronger or different in some way than i am not to be affected by it all in a negative way. People running into problems on EADD is different because more often than not you get to know the person before they start opening up about their problems, not just 'wham, straight in there, complete strangers in desperate need'. Too hard to deal with. Too potentially triggering to be wallowing in all that misery/depression/anxiety/whatever.
 
Eveleivibe said:
interesting but I was thinking one for each sub-forum? If moderators heard members views it may help them make improvements to keep certain members who have been put off from visiting that section for whatever reason. For instance, MDB saying that TDS is too serious which puts him off going there....
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There is one for EADD here. One of Knock's better forum improvement ideas - was actually thinking about it just this very morning oddly enough. Came up with a "brilliant idea for EADD" only to recall a few moments later that Knock beat me to it several months ago.

Several sub-forums have similar threads - probably worth asking in the equivalent of Gibberings in TDS or whichever forum you have feedback for. Staff do like feedback cos it lets us know what's working, what needs attention, new ideas and so on.
 
Pagey said:
I'm so sorry to bring up a stupid sob story about myself once again because I know I always do and I really am sorry but I need help right now :(
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Rather obvious one, but does the uni you're at have some kinda student support/counsellor type person/people available? Hardly an Earth-shattering suggestion but given still fairly fresh in the city and perhaps not knowing too many people it may be a good starting point - if only to get ideas of somewhere better to go.

Sorry to hear you're having a rough time - you know you're always more than welcome to hit me up on PM or whatever if of any use to ya <3
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Thats like the Jimmy Saville joke on HIGNFY.

Paul Merton asked him "What do you DO in your camper van?" and he replied "whoever i can!". Outrageously hiding in plain sight indeed. It got a hugge laugh at the time iirc, but Merton responded with a suitable 'thats dodgy' expression iirc. Ofcourse when this clip was broadcast after what emerged it was seen in an entirely different light. The BBC insiders possibly/probably allready knew something about his 'activities'.
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You were the one who made the leap from SHM to Jimmy Savile, not me. I'll leave it there. :D

mydrugbuddy said:
I have only made brief visits to TDS but every thread seems to be 'ive got this very serious problem' and not so many 'this is how i solved my problems' type things. Thats probably unfair but tbh i find it unhealthy and hard to deal with all the doom and gloom without getting dragged down by it. You need to be stronger or different in some way than i am not to be affected by it all in a negative way
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I know what you're saying, but forums in general (TDS in particular) tend to lend themselves far more easily to airing your woes than they do to explaining exactly how you overcame your problems. Futhermore, the people who have overcome their problems are far less likely to require the support of a community like TDS, so the posts tend to be skewed toward those experiencing bad times.

I can see your reasons for preferring EADD, however.
 
haha, im possibly going to become like one of those annoying preachy ex-smokers or drinkers. Just offering alternatives, thats all. ;)

Ive not had any drugs today, other than caffeine and nicotine. Wtf is wrong with me. :\

Mindfullness worked very well after a skinfull of red borneo kratom and etizolam. Ive not tried it without substances yet. :\
 
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You'll become the drugs equivalent of a born-again Christian! Except they're all active alcoholics aren't they? Ah. :D

Just caffeine and nicotine? You're doing better than I am. I smoked weed first thing, though that was nearly ten hours ago.
 
I prefer the taste (of a decent drink) to the effects, though the subtle effects of a drink or two are pretty nice. Any more and it's progressive stupidity and chasing the initial buzz. And in my case, very little alcohol will still leave me feeling shitty the next morning thanks to my good friend lithium.

I'd consider it a blessing though, definitely.
 
I used to love alcohol on its own.. before i discovered other funky things, now it seems pretty shite
 
mydrugbuddy said:
I have only made brief visits to TDS but every thread seems to be 'ive got this very serious problem' and not so many 'this is how i solved my problems' type things. Thats probably unfair but tbh i find it unhealthy and hard to deal with all the doom and gloom without getting dragged down by it. You need to be stronger or different in some way than i am not to be affected by it all in a negative way. People running into problems on EADD is different because more often than not you get to know the person before they start opening up about their problems, not just 'wham, straight in there, complete strangers in desperate need'. Too hard to deal with. Too potentially triggering to be wallowing in all that misery/depression/anxiety/whatever.
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I think we are largely of the same view on this, EADD is different to the focus forums like BDD, MED TDS etc in many ways it incorporates all of them in some small way and adds a dash of TL for 'good' measure;)

But there is a demonstrable requirement for the recovery forums, Sober Living is an easy to use example, there are people there that are in the first few weeks / months of being free of a serious addiction issue, they don't want to read about other people getting wasted.

Over in TDS people are posting for support as they struggle with mental health issues, not all of these people would be able to cope with the cut and thrust of a social forum like EADD or its colonial equivalent ;)

the recovery forums move much slower than the social ones, in the main people are looking for information and even links to real life support. I think all the forums have their place, I don't think a one size fits all approach would be an improvement on what we have now.

I've not long been over in TDS so I'm still getting to grips with it but one of the main reasons I wanted to help out over there was the lack of involvement from European / UK posters, even just from a time zone point of view having a 'euro' moderator might help a bit with that.
 
It has its place. Sadly it's probably the most fiendish drug out there.

Though at least it's possible to have a beer or two on a weeknight and be fine the next morning. Not really an option with a lot of the 'funkier' substances!
 
Actually "pretty shite" is a bit strong... i still love the stuff. kinda
 
Allein said:
I think we are largely of the same view on this, EADD is different to the focus forums like BDD, MED TDS etc in many ways it incorporates all of them in some small way and adds a dash of TL for 'good' measure;)

But there is a demonstrable requirement for the recovery forums, Sober Living is an easy to use example, there are people there that are in the first few weeks / months of being free of a serious addiction issue, they don't want to read about other people getting wasted.

Over in TDS people are posting for support as they struggle with mental health issues, not all of these people would be able to cope with the cut and thrust of a social forum like EADD or its colonial equivalent ;)

the recovery forums move much slower than the social ones, in the main people are looking for information and even links to real life support. I think all the forums have their place, I don't think a one size fits all approach would be an improvement on what we have now.

I've not long been over in TDS so I'm still getting to grips with it but one of the main reasons I wanted to help out over there was the lack of involvement from European / UK posters, even just from a time zone point of view having a 'euro' moderator might help a bit with that.
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completely agree with all you've said and have some admiration for anyone attempting to help out on that possibly most difficult of BL sub forums.
 
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