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Yes MDB his passing is extremely sad n upsetting this place seems so cold without him here. Its understandable that you're going to be down over things. I think a lot of us are.

I'm very pleased that you won't act on those thoughts but I had to share my concerns with you over it or I'd not be much of a friend if I sat back n sad nothing about.

Many people have thoughts n laugh them off n later on act on them. If you ever feel like that please talk to us or someone you trust, ok?! But I'm the idea of those drains makes youwanna be sick lol.

Anyway it sounds like you want off opiates so that's good.

Take care,
Evey xxxx
 
mydrugbuddy said:
At this moment in time i feel as if i have the opiate demon tamed, a large part of me doesnt want to go any further down that road. The only slight worry is that it has been so easy to stop taking kratom on this occasion is that i might become too casual about it, and be tempted by another re-order. But the larger part of me definately wants out. There may allways be a slight temptation to relapse, so i have to take each day, one day at a time atm. One re-order seems to lead to another, and another, and so on.
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Do you really see kratom as being that much of a problem? It takes months of daily use to fall into any kind of trap, and if you're using it day in day out the chances are you have more pressing problems than the kratom.

If you feel it keeps cravings for other opiates alive then that's your call, but from my experience I have to say it's helped me cut down. I certainly haven't even been tempted to score and smack and I've been taking oxy once a month or so if that. Some of this may be due to the other lifestyle changes I've made (or been forced to make), granted. That said, it's only a few months ago that I was injecting on a daily basis.

If you'd prefer to get it all out of the way then more power to you, but kratom just ain't an opiate in my eyes. Which isn't to say it doesn't come with its own host of potential problems, but it's pretty forgiving even in the medium term.
 
amanitadine said:
Evey- I've read enough of your posts to know you are a caring and genuine person...'twas just pointing out that what might be perceived as nutter thinking is fairly common around here....we are nutters after all! ;) But I get what you are saying, and that it comes from a good place. Knocks departure has caused a big hole and shock here....I took to him as soon as he joined, he really was one in a billion. It never is easy when a BLer passes, but it has been a particularly rough few years here....especially for EADD :(
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I agree. Knock was the reason I am accepted in EADD. He spent time talking to me n helped me understand where I was going wrong in a lot of disagreements here. I have a habit of taking things the wrong way and completing lashing back at others on forums. Now I'm learning to be more rational. Thanks for the nice things you said xxxx
 
i know what you mean, its not really a 'proper' opiate atall, even it does have some action on the u and k opiate receptors. It does seem to be relatively easy to pick up and put down again after just 2-4 weeks usage. I've just kind of reached the stage where i feel like im using these things as some kind of crutch, but i now feel ready and wanting to at least try things for a decent amount of time (a few months is the initial goal) without this kind of crutch. Im still heavily leaning on the etiz crutch which is also something i want to dispense with, and kratom usage and stoppage is adversly affecting my etiz taper. Maybe when i have etiz conquered, and have stabilized after that, i may or may not want anything else to do with kratom. Some kind of corner has been turned.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
i know what you mean, its not really a 'proper' opiate atall, even it does have some action on the u and k opiate receptors. It does seem to be relatively easy to pick up and put down again after just 2-4 weeks usage. I've just kind of reached the stage where i feel like im using these things as some kind of crutch, but i now feel ready and wanting to at least try things for a decent amount of time (a few months is the initial goal) without this kind of crutch. Im still heavily leaning on the etiz crutch which is also something i want to dispense with, and kratom usage and stoppage is adversly affecting my etiz taper. Maybe when i have etiz conquered, and have stabilized after that, i may or may not want anything else to do with kratom. Some kind of corner has been turned.
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Have you been going to the recovery forums lately? There is a forum in Sober Living for every month where people are trying to quit their addictions (doesn't necessarily have to be everything) and they all give each other support. There's also some useful links in The Dark Side (TDS) aimed to help posters think more positively which you may find interesting? "Today I'm happy for, How I'm feeling in one word and say something positive about your day. Just a thought xxxx
 
Ive tried one thread on the Recovery section which was quite helpfull. I find TDS a bit scary, many people with very serious and depressing problems is all ive found there so far, but thats not to say its doesnt have a positive purpose. But i dont think that lack of positive thinking is a big problem for me atm, infact i feel quite strangely positive all round.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Ive tried one thread on the Recovery section which was quite helpfull. I find TDS a bit scary, many people with very serious and depressing problems is all ive found there so far, but thats not to say its doesnt have a positive purpose. But i dont think that lack of positive thinking is a big problem for me atm, infact i feel quite strangely positive all round.
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interesting.
Shame there wasn't a feedback section on BL where members could give feedback on things and it would help with any possible improvements. Not disrespecting BL with suggesting that but it is an idea.
I suppose it is quite serious I don't know I like TDS. Some really helpful n decent people there.
Different strokes for different folks!
xxxx

EDIT: To be honest, I like all that seriousness... I like helping people!
 
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Eveleivibe said:
interesting but I was thinking one for each sub-forum? If moderators heard members views it may help them make improvements to keep certain members who have been put off from visiting that section for whatever reason. For instance, MDB saying that TDS is too serious which puts him off going there....
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All BL staff respond to queries in the Support forum. They're usually notified by a support mod when there's an issue that pertains to their subforum.

As for TDS being 'serious', I think that's unavoidable given the subject matter. The forum is extremely popular nonetheless. Maybe MDB just isn't a TDS person?
 
yeah i think everyone who sticks around eventually finds the subforum where they feel they fit in best, or get on with, or get to know more people, on some kind of level. I dont doubt that TDS probably has its regulars and characters just like EADD does, just that most of the topics being discussed are not really conducive to putting me in a happy and positive frame of mind, as many people there are in a bad way.
 
I know exactly what you're saying.

TDS is a great forum with some fantastic members and dedicated staff. I have no doubt that I could get a lot (and possibly contribute a little) over there, but my brand of humour probably wouldn't meet with universal approval. It hardly does so here, for fuck's sake, so there'd be no chance over in TDS. :D
 
Whats the benefits of using capsules instead of rizzla bombs for stuff? is there any? apart from it not splitting on the way down or whatever. Do all capsules dissolve at roughly the same rate?
 
Aside from ease of transport and avoiding the possibility of getting a nasty taste of paper, I can't see many advantages to capsules over rizla bombs.

As for the rate at which capsules dissolve, you've got me there.
 
What was i doing in your dream SHM ? Or was i just 'there' not particularly doing anything. (If its of a disturbing nature then feel free to not respond. ;))

I would do a double wrap of rizla bombs Dan, a single layer often gets trapped and unravells at the back of your throat unless you get a perfect gulp head back swallow action it often goes horribly wrong if you are in the least bit hesitant about swallowing pills and various other unchewed 'foreign objects'. Capsules would seem to be far too much faffing about.
 
hahahha

Thats like the Jimmy Saville joke on HIGNFY.

Paul Merton asked him "What do you DO in your camper van?" and he replied "whoever i can!". Outrageously hiding in plain sight indeed. It got a hugge laugh at the time iirc, but Merton responded with a suitable 'thats dodgy' expression iirc. Ofcourse when this clip was broadcast after what emerged it was seen in an entirely different light. The BBC insiders possibly/probably allready knew something about his 'activities'.
 
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I'm so sorry to bring up a stupid sob story about myself once again because I know I always do and I really am sorry but I need help right now :(

I've got panic disorder, ie. random, frequent, and completely uncontrollable huge panic attacks where I basically want to die. Got out of hang tonight, even after taking 6mg Xanax, I punched a wall repeatedly and can't really move my hand and then proceeded to cut my hand pretty severely, as in it won't stop bleeding. Nothing hospital worthy, at all, but I'm worried about my mental state right now and dunno what the fuck to do and if 6mg xanax haven't chilled me out I dunno at will, and I'm not comfortable taking more.

Im so sorry to make this about myself again but I'm pretty scared about myself

thank you
 
Hi Pagey.

Long time no speak, when I saw your name as the last poster I was hoping to say hello and hear about how you are enjoying being in Australia and all the cool stuff you are getting up to. I'm really sorry you are having a bad time. I really am. The best I can suggest is go see a Doctor and tell them about your dark thoughts. Do it before it gets any worse and things start spiraling out of control. Do it soon.

I hope you feel better soon with a little help and can start enjoying yourself again. Have a big virtual hug from me. Sorry I can't do more. <3
 
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