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i only take them after loads of etiz, usually last thing before i go to bed. Ive only once had a proper nice happy tranquil stone off them. I think im gonna get rid of most of what i have, they dont do me any good. They are extremely potent, you literally only need one inhale, then wait 20 minutes to judge how you are.
 
Yeah, I tend to opt for synthetics when in a smokey mood. It's purely a price thing. The cost of actual weed is so insanely high I just couldn't afford to get stoned at all unless I gave up everything else so I could smoke weed once in a blue moon. The prices are fukkin ridiculous now. Supposedly the UK now exports weed to Europe... If this is actually true (I have no evidence beyond hearsay and documentaries on the subject) there can be no possible excuse other than rampant profiteering. The weed bizniz got hijacked by actual bizniz years back. Never used to be like this. Can't recall exactly when the shift happened cos I barely came into contact with stoners the whole time I was on the scag and once I'd quit and tried to build up contacts it's all sillyhigh prices and sillylow weights. £10/0.7g around here usually. That's not even gonna last an evening even for a lightweight like me. There's just no way to make it worthwhile (other than on health grounds, obviously) at those prices.

Fortunately, some of the synths are actually very nice effectswise. The amount of ubersticky (bordering on superglue) residue they leave behind is frankly a bit scary in terms of lungs and stuff though. I don't smoke all that often so is deeply frustrating that am beinig forced into opting for the riskier/shittier option but I've been stung with 0.5g of twig and 0.2g if bud for my precious tenner far too often to even consider buying the real stuff any more. It's a real shame cos I <3's my weed :(

That aside, evenin', all :)

Lawdy have I been knackered today. Been dozing on the sofa all day. Had to start drinking booze just to stay conscious cos otherwise I'd be waking up at 3am with fuck all to do other than bemoan my broken sleep pattern. Also seems I lost a day. Missed picking up my weekend script at the chemist this morning cos I was sure it was Sunday today. Broken sleep patterns are shite even when you don't ostensibly have anything to do of a day :!
 
I would certainly be more concerned about smoking synthetic weed than the real stuff. Hi Shambles mate.
I spoke to my neighbour about what he pays for his weed and he gets .8 for £10.
I'm not sure of the quality of what he buys but I do know it fucking stinks and the smell lingers for ages.
 
I'm well aware that synths are unlikely to be anything other than bad news healthwise. In case it's not obvious, health matters just don't rank that highly when it comes to basic needs, unfortunately. If they did I wouldn't be in this position :\

In order to give much of a shit about health there are a whole range of other things that need to already be in place. If they ever are I'd be making different choices. Hopefully. They're not though so it all comes down to cost. Not a Good Thing - almost certainly a Bad Thing - but the way it is until/unless a number of other things change :\

One Thousand Words said:
I'd buy a box of nangs or heaven forbid stay sober
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A box of nangs cost even more than weed and last barely an hour. Even weed is cheaper and better value for money. They're kinda pointless on their own anyway. And what is that funny foreign word you used in the second sentence? :?
 
I think every sane druggy on the planet decided long ago to never pay for coke. Coke is for freebie lines from folk gullible enough to pay such moronic prices for it. Weed is different in that there is absolutely no good reason for it being so expensive. It doesn't cost anything like that much to produce and distribute. I used to smoke 24/7 back in my teens but other stuff developed more of a pull to me and those "other stuffs" were somewhat all-consuming so simply lost contact with all my stoner mates. I do still like being stoned now and then though. It's relaxing and helps me sleep. Gotta be better than benzos. I don't do either now really. Well, benzos from time to time but only "medicinally" and never recreationally. Weed really does help me as long as I don't just smoke from dawn til dusk. Booze doesn't but that's what I end up doing as my day-to-day drug in the absence of weed. It's a bit of a toss-up as to which would be more harmful really: regular heavy drinking or regular stoning but having to resort to synths? Six of one... :\

In more positive news, some of the synths really are very good. Some are utterly horrendous. I'm very wary of 'em even though I do use 'em. I tend to stick to what I know works for me and even then only smoke occasionally. Weeks and months without owt sometimes. I do drink a lot less when I've got summat to smoke though and it's liver pain (okay, not actual liver pain so much as pain from swollen liver squishing stuff) that's bothering me on a daily basis. Livers grow back given half a chance though and lungs don't so even with my somewhat bleak medical outlook I still tend to favour booze over synth 'noids. If I could get weed at even remotely the same universe of cost I'd obviously opt for that instead.
 
which synths do you find the best Shambles ? I make my ownas they are about 50times cheaper than the pre made blends which have horrific mark ups.

I found UR144 quite good, quite tranquil and low on anxiety. AM1220 and MAM2201 started off OK, but dont seem to be agreeing with me anymore.
 
I liked a couple of the old JWH series before they were banned (not JWH-018 whose popularity always baffled me :?) but of the current crop I only use that 5F-AKB-48 at the moment as it suits my needs perfectly: effects pretty similar to actual cannabis (some forms thereof anyway) and potent as hell but also short-acting (good value for money but seemingly impossible to freak-out on cos it only lasts an hour or so at most and even if you do massively overdo a dose it just sends you to sleep and you wake up an hour or two later a bit groggy but otherwise fine). It is a bit fiendish, mind. Even though it is insanely potent (1-2mg will have me wasted with no tolerance) tolerance builds quickly if you smoke round the clock/daily so is surprisingly easy to get through a gramme in a week or so if you get too into the pleasing dozychill of it all.

Got some AB-FUBINACA on the way to sample cos it was on offer. Never tried that one before so will report back. I also notice that a coupla new indazole analogues (THJ-xxxx) that sound fairly intriguing... although I don't like JWH-018 (one of the ones being analogued, as it were) and have never tried AM-2201 (t'other one being analogued) but given how popular the originals were it'll be interesting to see how they compare all the same.
 
@dan " Does anyone bother with those synthetic cannaboids or whatever they are? "

I quite liked JWH018 vaped on its own, it had been a good while since I had any THC type stuff, it could be very intense and no somthing I would reommend to someone not used to the 'real' stuff
 
^^^ same as although the panic attacks were strangeky aluring maybe becuase or my years of cannibis use, its the only drug I've used that can induce panic attacks but they seem much more matter of fact than any other drug.

That said I've not bothered with green or any of these chems since, I got rid of tht habit and donlt want it back
 
JWH-018 (and a couple others whose names I forget - lawdy have there been a few 8o) gave me crippling paranoia unless I soldiered on through it and kept redosing long enough to build up enough tolerance to use it pleasantly. It's why I like the one I mentioned (the AKB one): zero paranoia or anxiety at any dose. For me anyway and I am quite prone to cannabinoid-paranoia/anxiety even from some strains and forms of "the real stuff". Not that I'm recommending cos YMMV as ever, but that AKB stuff is what I'd go for if prone to paranoia and interested in synths for whatever reason.
 
for a while i did find that battling on to build up a tolerance did help slightly and then i took a break for a while, nad dont really feel its worth going through all that again. Like i said above ive only once had a proper really happy stone in about 300 attempts. Thats not a good ratio in anyones book. Sometimes i take them cos i think they give me a better perspective on things, i dont think they actually do, in general they give me a paranoid perspective on things. I think i fucked up cannabis and cannabinoid stuff for myself due to over indulgence as a teen. It started off so well, but ended so badly.
 
Missing out on fun again but nevermind, car tax, phone bill, internet bill, rent, cant justify spending a stupid amount of money out atm. no house partys on that i know of either. nevermind feeling gooooood though. careless state of happy being alive in the moment thought clarity relaxed couldnt give a shite

Addy Van Der Zwan & Koen Groeneveld - Wheep (Original Mix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn3PBuFmuJw&list=FLC--uZVwp7qLoKuU0unjPTA&index=1
 
small pussy ? Not sure if that's a good thing or not for a Sunday morning.

How do you titillate an ocelot?

Oscillate it's tit a lot
 
Lol

4-FA has gotta be the hardest thing ive ever slept on, a few vallies and etiz and it didnt put much of a dent in it. ive slept much easier on meph or speed. 3 hours sleep and feeling fresh though
 
Bearlove said:
How do you titillate an ocelot?
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By throwing burlap saps filled to the top with ABORTIONS AT IT

Fucking amphetamine salts damn ye! I need sleep.




I rather liked 4-fa it's these noradrenergic cheap american energy bombs that do me in on the Lord's Day.

GOD IS A TWELVE YEAR OLD BOY WITH ASPERGERS ;)
night folks.
 
ColtDan said:
Lol

4-FA has gotta be the hardest thing ive ever slept on, a few vallies and etiz and it didnt put much of a dent in it. ive slept much easier on meph or speed. 3 hours sleep and feeling fresh though
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Wow, quote button works.

Ever try B2* Dan? God knows what it was (highly suspect 95% Meph 5% PV) but that was impossible to sleep on for 24 hrs after 500mg.


*As in 'these be two (B2) drugs recently banned that we're trying to shift old stock of'
 
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