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Bluelighter
Ugh. Trazodone. How the fuck do you get thru the day after.That shit will certainly knock you out but you pay for it next day,no ? Smokin some BB/Kush . You got a card ?
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Ugh. Trazodone. How the fuck do you get thru the day after.That shit will certainly knock you out but you pay for it next day,no ? Smokin some BB/Kush . You got a card ? 
nah. no card because im in NY. although my weed is the same medical quality youd see in a dispensary
and i only take 50mg of trazodone. i dont get much of a "hangover"
but now i have a little bit of weed, 2 (out of 5) bags left, and like half a g of ketamine. yay.
cj
Bluelight Crew
I've been spending a depressing amount of money on dope lately. Like 60-80 a day. Then I don't even get high. I don't think it's the as I have a cople options in different places. But who knows the fucking media has been all over this heroin killing white people nonsense everyone may be scared to put out pure product. Like my one guy has mostly white power with a few soft rocks in it. It's the best usually and hes a chill guy for the most part so I mostly use him. This other cat has brown looking hard rocks that smells faintly of vinegar. Another dude has white hard rocks that is sometimes good sometimes awful. I dunno when the heroin never leaves your system for months it's a bitch to hit a nod. I guess that's the moral of the story.
cj
Bluelight Crew
Well I threw in the towel today after missing a very expensive shot. I'm done chasing a high I can't catch. I made the appointment to get on methadone in the morning. I'm for real doing it this time. I want to have friends,respect,money for concerts and festivals. I want to havea life again that isn't driving from my house to my dealer to work to my dealer than back to work. Then be broke again the next day. It's exhausting. Mad props to those of you who balance a life with your dope but I just can't figurethatshit out.
PriestTheyCalledHim
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Congratulations, good luck on getting sober, and stay safe.
cj
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I don't plan to get sober I just want off heroin without going through the hell that is quitting heroin. I got no will power for that being sick shit.likeawhale
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from my own experience - if you want to get out of the itch scratch cycle of "getting high" (addictive in itself) then i would go with suboxone over methadone. i would start on 2-4mg of an 8mg tabelt twice a day and then weaning down from there. that way you can break the cycle without getting too sick. because you can't use h on top of it your mind is freed from the temptation of scoring (as you know it won't do anything/be a waste) in my own experience anyways.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
have you been on suboxone before? much better than methadone in my eyes; not as much of a hassle either.
I've been on both multiple times and prefer suboxone; it helps ME much more than methadone does. methadone does NOT kill the urge of using and does NOT kill the high; so many will be on methadone and still shooting dope and still get high. esp. in the early stages of methadone and you are on the rise; you wont stop getting high till you are 80MG+ and on a steady dosage; so its tough if you still have those urges/cravings.
w/ suboxone I never get any urges/cravings unless I do not use suboxone for 2+ days. as of now I am on 16/MG/day and usually split in 2 doses but at times ill completely forget my 2nd pill, or not even have to worry and still feel great the following day. I just get a better overall feel when it comes to suboxone over methadone; methadone NEVER did it for me and I gave it 2 tries before giving up and realizing the clinic is not for me.
also remember that you'll have to be at that clinic EVER FUCKING DAY and you may meet BAD PEOPLE THERE so you are better off finding a Dr. to script you the bupe (subs) and handle the business on your own while still seeing your therapist (which is a must for bupe anyway) and attending the 1 weekly meeting the bupe Dr. may have at his office or some other spot.
cj
Bluelight Crew
I have played the bupe game to death and found the opposite to be true. All bupe does is make me not sick. There's no glow or reward to speak of. They started me on 25mg of done and while I'm not completely well I'm not crazy sick either. I can already tell the clinic bs is gonna suck but at this point I don't have shit to lose except my life really.Uuuggh after a week on AWESOME h im back on (full day) 1 of suboxone. Gonna try staying btwn 2-4mg daily for 3+/- days then staying below 2mg. Tis the plan! Got a small amount of clonazepam some lyrica and gaba to help out. I NEED some weed fucking damn it.
Shouldnt have fucked w the shit in the first place. Such lure...crzydiamond
Bluelighter
Everyone is different though. I'm glad you found something to work for you, I remember reading about your methadone struggles
For me I don't crave at ALL on methadone. In fact I've been coming down some because I am tired of feeling the warm sleepy opiate high during my limited spare time lol. I haven't done dope in a year, and half that year was living with someone who was using. And had no desire to even though it was right there on a daily basis.
So while bupe works for you, don't be so quick to discourage someone from methadone. Whatever way helps them lead a better life is cool.
And I have come off methadone twice before. When done right it is not difficult. When done cold turkey it's like hell for a month. But the worst part really is the length of time. If methadone wd and heroin wd lasted the same length of time I'd take methadone wd any day. They are not as intense--but they take forever to go away!!
Crimsonjunk good luck to you, if you have any questions PM me. Oh did you see about TASC to help pay for it?
cj
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Crzusiamond I don't know what TASC stands for but the clinic said they only take Medicaid which here in Bama means having a kid to qualify. Our gov in all his wisdom turned down the obamacare Medicaid extension so I am SOL on that front it seems. BTW that 25mg is long fucking gone and it's 12 hours and 40 min till I can dose again. These people are the ones on drugs if they think I'm not scoring tommorow when I get money. Fuck this dope sick shitcrzydiamond
Bluelighter
TASC up in pa is the drug and alcohol state funding for ppl who like you can't get Medicaid. Although you may want to look into it again cause if you are in the clinic you may qualify under the life sustaining medication (for Medicaid. I didn't qualify before I was actually in clinic but I did once in it. Weird I know)
It stands for treatment alternatives to street crime. I imagine Alabama has something like it, maybe a different name... First time I was on clinic I had to fight to get clinic to take it and for them to cover me. Now here it's almost automatic if you don't qualify for med asst
cj
Bluelight Crew
Thank you! I will look into that. But be glad you live in a relatively liberal state. Here in the deep south social programs are at a premium.
THE_REAL_OBLIVION
Bluelight Crew
Still unable to find (not for me even, I'm on bupe, thanks to shooting up Dilaudid, HM Contins and Statex 25mg/50mg (like MS IR, but the dilaudid of the IR morphine pills, if we go by brand name dilaudid anyway, MS IR contain shit that make em require wheel filters/SteriFilts at least), the filters inside the SecuriCups are good, but not good enough for MS IR's talc, I think it is). Statex is a Canadian only thing sorry bros
Anyway, to the point, I still can't find heroin for my friend who's already on 2x130mg Kadians (can't shoot Kadians if you're smart, the best one can achieve is crushing the beads, put em back in the gelcap, have a prescription to cimetidine in high dosages, 600mg or 800mg, I suggest trying to get 600mg ones from your doctor if you have stomach acidity like so many people, say you miss it being in the aisles, worked better than the other H2 antagonists and prazoles shouldn't be taken long term (not a joke). Anyway, 600mg cimetidine 30 minutes before my methadone back then made me nod so hard, but by the evening my body was close to withdrawal, one hell of a liver process accelerator. He's scripted 2x130mg Kadians a day (once every 2 hours) and an OxyIR 10mg every 4 hours prn for breakthrough pain (old man ex-construction worker...these guys are normally the best pharms sources heh). He wants to save on his meds and smoke H or something.
I hear the H in Montreal is a weird scene, we have both east coast powder and tar or maybe brown like in europe that needs to be acidfied for IV, but he wants to smoke it, he's been given hits once in a party by a guy we didn't know who was friends with the girl I was partying at. Anyway, I hear more of east coast powder style stuff from the people in the streets, but they won't find me sources or help, all the guys in the streets either sell weed, hash or coke/crack. But they tell me that normally if they encounter it it's white powder, so anyway, since the 6th family (Rizzutos) are in such tatters that tar from Vancouver or brown from europe is making its way here more. He doesn't want to IV, he knows how much I suffered from the Dillies and HMC's, once I was *this* close from stealing some guy's 12 2mg generic PMS-hydromorphone while taking a piss in his bathroom, it was there next to the toothbrushes, but I never stole shit and I'm not about to go to a certain area of Montreal to rip sombody off (I stockpiled my Dexedrine 10mg spansules and 5mg IR pills for 2 years, I bet I could find some speed freaks willing to do lots to find me somebody who has H so he can have a jar for free..).
Heroin is so not worth it here, last time I heard of prices, 250 for a gram...an HM Contin 30mg will get you at least 6 shots of pure bliss for 35-40 dollars, only problem is how short the damn stuff lasts, everybody knows it's the crack of opiates. I'd be curious if not on suboxone of a dilaudid+H shot, with doses of each reduced enough so it's not a death wish. Anyone knows more of the H scene in MTL tell me yer story.crzydiamond
Bluelighter
@crimsonjunk
Oh and they kinda expect to use at first, at least until you're on a stable dose. They know that the starting dose won't hold everyone, hardly anyone in fact
Plus it has to be taken for days straight to start building up in body--half lives you know
As far as funding, Medicaid is national and if you have the clinic dr sign off on "health sustaining medication" (he will it's common) then you have a better chance of qualifying without a child. If you don't work it's guaranteed. If you do there are income limits. But if you don't qualify even Alabama has to have some kind of drug/alcohol funding. If I can I'll look into it for you. Look for state drug and alcohol treatment funding. Wherever you guys would go for funding if you want to go to detox, say, that's usually the same people who will fund methadone treatment.
EDIT: TASC /Birmingham ALABAMA
(205)917-3780
401 beacon parkway w
Birmingham
I dont know how close you are but if that's not your county or near you I'm sure they will refer you! It saved me so much money. When I was at a full pay clinic I went from $80 a week (which became $100 week) to $30 per month. Yes. Month.Last edited:
cj
Bluelight Crew
Dude you are amazing! I live in Birmingham so that is spot on! Thank you soo much for real!man i cant balance this dope life. its just not fun. when the money was around and the drugs were still effective, yea, but this is getting effective. noone has dope right now so i have to shoot ketamine into my thigh to stay somewhat well. but this is becoming a hassle. how am i gonna have money but no way to get dope?
then again, any process is too much of a process. i bitch when i have to call my weed guy these days....
zephyrhigh
Bluelighter
Cj ttown clinic is 70$ week no ins
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
damn dude, and thats working for you? I've done K plenty of times, but this was way back in 2001/2002 in my "club" days. we would buy jars of K in the club and just do bumps; never shot any K. this was back when Tokyo K was still around.
how does K work when trying to detox from dope? do you get into a K whole and feel good?
