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General Election 2015

Which party would you cast your vote for?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 2 4.2%
  • Labour

    Votes: 8 16.7%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Greens

    Votes: 14 29.2%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 3 6.3%
  • BNP

    Votes: 2 4.2%
  • SNP

    Votes: 6 12.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 4.2%
  • None of the above (feel free to post in thread)

    Votes: 11 22.9%

  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
Slightly less heated debate coming up..

..genuinely mystified by how the Scots think they integrate immigrants differently to the rest of the UK. Last time I looked you were still chucking them onto sink estates in the worst parts of your cities on arrival. Just like England does. Which is why you have poor ghettos like Tower Hamlets, with some of the worst housing anywhere in the UK, where we dump non-white immigrants. It had always been thus. Because we're a racist country. Brixton was a Jewish ghetto well before any Carribeans came here. Because it was where the shit housing was. Immigrants do not create the ghettos. We do with social policy.

Swedger, when you start saying things like "I was the only white face" or even "our immigrants are integrated because they speak with a weedgie accent" then that's being racist. If you are scared of being the only white face somewhere then that shows your fears and insecurities. And speaking with an accent has nothing to do with good integration, it's basic linguistics. Do you not think the Bradford cricket leagues are full of British-Asians all speaking with broad Yorkshire accents? I assure you they are.

There is nothing specific to Scotland in how you deal with immigration. And yes it does reek a bit of 'we're so special in Scotland' and riding this Nationalist wave up your own arses.

Shit I wrote a load more and lost it. Gist was beware the thin line between pride in your country (nationalism) and the desire to piss on others (racism). You're not special or different, you've just woken up, too late some might say, to the iniquities of rule from Westminster. You are a highly visible group of less fortunate people right now. You don't make your position stronger by picking on others even less fortunate than you.

Skin colour is nothing to do with anything. Those wielding economic and therefore political power are the ones you need to be chasing.
 
Racist:- a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.


I WAS the only white face. - An observation. How does this imply that "I think im superior"?

Mentioning about other nationalities integrating - again.......How does this imply that "I think im superior"?

Too many folk throwing the word racist about.
 
It doesn't clear it up, you're contradicting yourself & you sound pretty fucking racist. No wonder you're voting SNP. It's only a small line between nationalism & racism.

I don't think UKIP are any more racist than SNP.

Have you ever visited Bradford, or wont you go there because you might meet a darkie?

felix said:
If I was an uneducated moron who read the Daily Mail every day, and lived in, say, Bradford, then I can understand why I would feel the need to vote UKIP.

If I was a Catholic living in Northern Ireland, then I can understand why I would maybe want to vote for Sinn Fein... or possibly even join the IRA.

If I was a middle-aged, middle-class accountant, living in a nice big house in the Cotswolds, then I can understand why I would maybe want to vote Conservative.

There is nothing illogical, contradictory, or racist about anything I said. You seem to be having trouble comprehending the words on your screen.
 
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Farage is just a Tory, god sake. It's like me making a Political party to legalize weed but hidden in my manifesto I will do everything big business asks of me.
 
One of their top donors does not believe that rape can happen in Marriage. He also believes Women should be banned from wearing Trousers as only skirts excite men apparently.
 
Just to clarify - Sinn Fein is not associated with any armed paramilitary group using the name 'IRA' these days. That's all.

I know. :)

I'm trying to get across that I can understand why people living in certain locations, in certain circumstances, vote the way they do. And now I'm a massive racist. :D

And now we have the anti-Scottish backlash, just like out in the real world. Hah.
 
One of their top donors does not believe that rape can happen in Marriage. He also believes Women should be banned from wearing Trousers as only skirts excite men apparently.

Ye I remember.

My question was is the 9th statement on that flyer actually in the UKIP manifesto?
 
Was enjoying reading this thread before folk started throwing out phrases like 'you scottish people appear to think you're better than everyone else' etc.
Question...
What the fuck have I said to be tarred with the same brush? I have only said that I feel the need to vote Snp to make a point that the system needs changing, i am not a lifelong follower of snp but why should i vote scottish labour for more of the same shite? I am in favour of keeping the union together and i voted No in the referendum and would like to stay part of the eu.... but I think Im better than everyone just because im scottish...... OK



I would agree with stonehappymonday in that integration likely varies in success throughout the uk, but im no expert. Also in a place where religion can lead to violence i dont agree with any of the walks (orange or hibs)...However i am a patriot who feels like i should be allowed to feel safe to fly the Great British flag without risking my windows being done in from extreme catholics.

Anyway, I honestly am gutted about the level of 'us vs them' mentality in here.
 
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I WAS the only white face. - An observation. How does this imply that "I think im superior"?

Why is it important to you at all what colours peoples skins are?

Would you have felt better if I'd dropped ten white BNP followers down next to you?

Would you have felt better if I'd dropped ten 'average' white Joe's next to you, bearing in mind the average white Joe wants to string scummy drug users like you from the ceiling?

Would you have felt better if I'd dropped ten white rich folk, lets call them Home Counties MP's, down next to you?

Do you identify with any of the above just because you share their skin colour?

YOU mentioned skin colour with the implication that it mattered to you. That's, er, racist.

And now we have the anti-Scottish backlash

Grow up Felix. The only post that comes close to justifying your words is Eveys. If anything I've said makes you butt hurt then imagine how a British-Asian might feel coming to this thread and reading about how they are an 'immigration cunt' or how they are 'over-running' (Enoch says flood, Swedge says over-run, there is no difference in the intent of those words) the nice white UK. And you choose to see this last page of debate as 'anti-Scottish backlash'?
 
Slightly less heated debate coming up..

..genuinely mystified by how the Scots think they integrate immigrants differently to the rest of the UK. Last time I looked you were still chucking them onto sink estates in the worst parts of your cities on arrival. Just like England does. Which is why you have poor ghettos like Tower Hamlets, with some of the worst housing anywhere in the UK, where we dump non-white immigrants. It had always been thus. Because we're a racist country. Brixton was a Jewish ghetto well before any Carribeans came here. Because it was where the shit housing was. Immigrants do not create the ghettos. We do with social policy.

Swedger, when you start saying things like "I was the only white face" or even "our immigrants are integrated because they speak with a weedgie accent" then that's being racist. If you are scared of being the only white face somewhere then that shows your fears and insecurities. And speaking with an accent has nothing to do with good integration, it's basic linguistics. Do you not think the Bradford cricket leagues are full of British-Asians all speaking with broad Yorkshire accents? I assure you they are.

There is nothing specific to Scotland in how you deal with immigration. And yes it does reek a bit of 'we're so special in Scotland' and riding this Nationalist wave up your own arses.

Shit I wrote a load more and lost it. Gist was beware the thin line between pride in your country (nationalism) and the desire to piss on others (racism). You're not special or different, you've just woken up, too late some might say, to the iniquities of rule from Westminster. You are a highly visible group of less fortunate people right now. You don't make your position stronger by picking on others even less fortunate than you.

Skin colour is nothing to do with anything. Those wielding economic and therefore political power are the ones you need to be chasing.

We are on the same page, SHM. Truly.

The point is: up here, we don't have any real support for UKIP or the BNP. There is not a chance in hell of either of them getting a seat in Scotland. We are not being whipped up into a frenzy of anti-immigration, or blaming immigrants on all our troubles. There is no real appetite for that kind of shit up here, and to equate support for nationalism or the SNP with racism is absolutely fucking ridiculous.

Of course we still have pockets of racist wankers, but their voice isn't heard very loudly (or taken seriously) and they're on the fringes of Scottish society. They're fucking dinosaurs, the sort of people who go on Orange Walks, singing about Queen & country and playing their little flutes.

I've been to the Red Road tower blocks in Glasgow, and driven past the scary-looking Dungavel Immigration "Detention Centre". Not that that gives me any special insight or knowledge on the subject, but yeah, I'm aware that Scotland treats its immigrants in the same way as England does. It's shameful and horrifying.

I certainly don't feel special or superior to anyone outwith Scotland. That's nonsense. But look at the polls. The mainstream media never tire of talking about fucking UKIP, and they're probably going to win some seats because of that. Up here, they'll get fuck all. That is the difference.
 
^No all racist wankers are exclusive to the orange lodge you know....comes across as a major generalisation, why even use as an example? Very one sided imo. The reason i say this is because reminded me of ma uncle who played the flute in Hibs walk, has some dodgy connections, HATES the Queen and is probably thee most racist person i know.
 
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Fuck me, I see nothing has changed around here. Still squabbling & accusing each other of racism for the slightest thing.

Ahhhh...I feel like I'm home again :)
 
^No all racist wankers are exclusive to the orange lodge you know....comes across as a major generalisation, why even use as an example? Very one sided imo. The reason i say this is because reminded me of ma uncle who played the flute in Hibs walk and who is probably thee most racist person i know.

I didn't say that, come on now. Did I say "all racists in Scotland are members of the Orange Lodge"? :D No.

Fuck me, I see nothing has changed around here. Still squabbling & accusing each other of racism for the slightest thing.

Ahhhh...I feel like I'm home again :)

Hi bro. Welcome back. I don't even fucking know why I'm wasting my time on this bullshit either. :D

By the way, give my regards to your (black) next-door neighbour. Lovely chap. ;)
 
Fuck me, I see nothing has changed around here. Still squabbling & accusing each other of racism for the slightest thing.

Ahhhh...I feel like I'm home again :)

Nah we're having an intellectual debate :D name calling is just the icing on the cake ;)

Welcome to hypocrisy heaven...

Many of my views are hypocritical. I recognise n acknowledge this :)

Evey
 
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^No all racist wankers are exclusive to the orange lodge you know....comes across as a major generalisation, why even use as an example? Very one sided imo. The reason i say this is because reminded me of ma uncle who played the flute in Hibs walk, has some dodgy connections, HATES the Queen and is probably thee most racist person i know.

What's wrong with hating the Queen?

I grew up in a house where the TV was turned off every time she appeared, but I was never encouraged to be a bigot. A Republican, aye, but not a bigot.
 
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