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General Election 2015

Which party would you cast your vote for?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 2 4.2%

  • Labour

    Votes: 8 16.7%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Greens

    Votes: 14 29.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 3 6.3%

  • BNP

    Votes: 2 4.2%

  • SNP

    Votes: 6 12.5%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 4.2%

  • None of the above (feel free to post in thread)

    Votes: 11 22.9%
  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
Eveyvibe said:
We Welsh have some say in stuff but it's not independences I get that
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I don't understand what you mean by that. As I mentioned previously, you do have a party seeking Welsh Independence and you are free to vote for them or someone else.

Are you registered to vote, Evey?
 
Vurtual said:
When they say they want to save the union/uk the elite (and therefore the media) aren't talking about what everyone else is - to them saving 'the UK' means keeping their centralised scam of hording all the power they stole from empire and the workers to themselves, carrying on the international warmongery and serving the city of london banking elite and the gentry. I hope scotland does become independent - and then later wales, n. ireland and england join them and make a free united republic instead (london would probably become an independent city-state (pretty much is now) rather than give up their neoliberalism and tax haven business - but i say let em go if they don't want to join the FUR - we'll manage (us welshies might need a few lay-ons from you scots though ;)).

This election has nothing much to do with scottish independence though - that's just the scare story the media has latched onto to try and avoid a potential outbreak of democracy - they're petrified of democracy because if it grew across the country in any meaningful way it would effectively mean the break up of the scam they call the UK (the actual people/country would be fine though).

It's pretty disgusting watching the media try to threaten us with the scary snp. It's about scottish people democratically choosing their mps, and them mps democratically voting which way they (and hopefully their voters) want. Hopefully, for once, the fraudulent FPTP will maybe bite them in the arse
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Fucking spot on mate. Nail on the head. Up here we've got wise to it. We can see right through the scam. The rest of the UK needs to wake up and see through the London-centric government who are corrupt as fuck.

Privatising everything in their path....if the Tories get in more and more of the NHS will be sold off.

In this current democracy....who wanted the Royal Mail privatised? Fucking no-one other than the Tories and some of their fund manager chums. Its a fucking disgrace.

The fuckers were desperate to keep Scotland as part of the Union, but it turns out that was only if we shut up and don't have any impact on the two party state. I hope to god the polls are right..........
 
Yea I don't like this privatising lark. Stamps are like 60-odd pence now. Last I knew they were 30-odd pence. Ugh. Yea I agree they're corrupt.

What do you mean "more n more of the NHS?" Has some been privatised then? I've not kept up with NHS since I stopped working for the LHB in 2007 when Edwina Hart was the Welsh health minister. Mind you I loved her annoying the workers when she sent an E-mail round saying to stop having luxerious meetings as it's wasting NHS money. Bloody true though I booked a room for a few hours once that cost £500 that's not excluding the buffet laid out so they could discuss the health social care n wellbeing strategy.

Evey
 
Yeah, lots of parts, like whole departments or specialist areas of the NHS in England have been privatised.

http://www.nhsforsale.info/privatisation-list.html

What is even worse that with a little digging, the links back to members of the Government becomes apparent.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/half-private-firms-behind-nhs-5347268

A quick google and you'll get the idea.

In Scotland our NHS is run by the Scottish Government. They also use private companies, however this is ONLY to reduce times to meet targets.
 
This is a fucking excellent article (you'll love it, swedger ;)):

The Union Of Hypocrites

Yet the people of Scotland voted No on the 18th September and after that result – the ‘settled will of the Scottish people’ – the beast of democratic awakening was supposed to dip its head with embarrassment, whine in apology for making a dreadful mess and ‘dividing the nation’, go into exile in the back garden and stay wheesht for the foreseeable future. It was expected – as was traditional – for it to only be seen again when Scotland’s gracious masters called on it to put a cross next to a Labour candidate’s name at the polling station. It turned out that the beast had other ideas.
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Evey - if you want to understand a bit more about the political climate in Scotland, and what this "independence lark" is all about, I suggest you read it! :D
 
swedger77 said:
Yeah, lots of parts, like whole departments or specialist areas of the NHS in England have been privatised.

http://www.nhsforsale.info/privatisation-list.html

What is even worse that with a little digging, the links back to members of the Government becomes apparent.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/half-private-firms-behind-nhs-5347268

A quick google and you'll get the idea.

In Scotland our NHS is run by the Scottish Government. They also use private companies, however this is ONLY to reduce times to meet targets.
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Will take a look at those links - thanks.

felix said:
This is a fucking excellent article (you'll love it, swedger ;)):

The Union Of Hypocrites



Evey - if you want to understand a bit more about the political climate in Scotland, and what this "independence lark" is all about, I suggest you read it! :D
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OK. Will do. Thank you.

Evey
 
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And just to lower the tone a little....anyone see/hear Cameron's football gaff yesterday? 'Man of the people' Dave reckons he supports Aston Villa. Except yesterday he gave a whole excerpt in a speech in which he forgot this and put West Ham forward as his team.

Fucking tool.
 
I saw clegg on the TV the other day being asked about tuition fees and why he had changed his policy regarding them... he got it wrong he said! What a fucking dick head, how can he be trusted if he doesn't even know whether his policies are going to work? Or were they just empty promises that he's abandoned now he's lost the student vote to the green party.

Draw a picture of a cock/tits/person smoking a spliff on your ballot paper.
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
And just to lower the tone a little....anyone see/hear Cameron's football gaff yesterday? 'Man of the people' Dave reckons he supports Aston Villa. Except yesterday he gave a whole excerpt in a speech in which he forgot this and put West Ham forward as his team.

Fucking tool.
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That he's a fucking tool goes without saying.

What fucking annoys me about the whole premise of this kinda thing is this: I don't give a flying fuck whether our Prime Minister (or First Minister) likes football, or supports this team or that, or whether they keep up to date with Game of Thrones, or like Blur or Oasis, or know the price of a pint of milk. This kind of shit is blown up by the media into something important, as a measure of whether politicians are "down with the people" or not. I wouldn't expect the CEO of my employer (or even my grandad, if I had one) to know or give a shit about any of those things, so how come we're supposed to expect the person that's RUNNING THE COUNTRY to do so? It's just facile mainstream media froth, designed to stop us thinking about the things that really matter.

itsonlyme123 said:
Draw a picture of a cock/tits/person smoking a spliff on your ballot paper.
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Fuck right off. Spoiling a ballot paper is as useful as lying in your wanking chariot and complaining that nothing ever changes.
 
felix said:
That he's a fucking tool goes without saying.

What fucking annoys me about the whole premise of this kinda thing is this: I don't give a flying fuck whether our Prime Minister (or First Minister) likes football, or supports this team or that, or whether they keep up to date with Game of Thrones, or like Blur or Oasis, or know the price of a pint of milk. This kind of shit is blown up by the media into something important, as a measure of whether politicians are "down with the people" or not. I wouldn't expect the CEO of my employer (or even my grandad, if I had one) to know or give a shit about any of those things, so how come we're supposed to expect the person that's RUNNING THE COUNTRY to do so? It's just facile mainstream media froth, designed to stop us thinking about the things that really matter.



Fuck right off. Spoiling a ballot paper is as useful as lying in your wanking chariot and complaining that nothing ever changes.
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I agree there, those things are insignificant.

Evey
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
And just to lower the tone a little....anyone see/hear Cameron's football gaff yesterday? 'Man of the people' Dave reckons he supports Aston Villa. Except yesterday he gave a whole excerpt in a speech in which he forgot this and put West Ham forward as his team.

Fucking tool.
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In fairness to Cameron he probably does have a genuine soft spot for the Villa...

...Unfortunately for his attempt to appear more likeable to your everyday working class football enjoying chap, that soft spot comes from the fact his uncle used to own the club. That's something every football fan can relate to - childhood memories of watching the team that your uncle owns play.
 
felix said:
That he's a fucking tool goes without saying.

What fucking annoys me about the whole premise of this kinda thing is this: I don't give a flying fuck whether our Prime Minister (or First Minister) likes football, or supports this team or that, or whether they keep up to date with Game of Thrones, or like Blur or Oasis, or know the price of a pint of milk. This kind of shit is blown up by the media into something important, as a measure of whether politicians are "down with the people" or not. I wouldn't expect the CEO of my employer (or even my grandad, if I had one) to know or give a shit about any of those things, so how come we're supposed to expect the person that's RUNNING THE COUNTRY to do so? It's just facile mainstream media froth, designed to stop us thinking about the things that really matter.
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Er, steady on old chap. I did start the post with "and to lower the tone a little".

I think Mosh's answer is a bit more relevant.

moshforjesus said:
In fairness to Cameron he probably does have a genuine soft spot for the Villa...

...Unfortunately for his attempt to appear more likeable to your everyday working class football enjoying chap, that soft spot comes from the fact his uncle used to own the club. That's something every football fan can relate to - childhood memories of watching the team that your uncle owns play.
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As for spoiling your ballot paper not changing anything....yes it would if enough people did it. Spoilt ballot papers have to be recorded. Their number is always read out at the count. There is a reason for this. Governments need political legitimacy. This is why the media rant on about turnout all the time. With a low turn out, the poll lacks legitimacy. If the head of the count had to read out

"Spoilt papers, 44,567" at each count, the legitimacy and the system would crumble. It's why I wanted, and got thanks Shambles, an option for NOTA on this BL poll.

You could say its a form of extra-parliamentary activity. And extra-parliamentary activity, such as demonstrations, action by unions etc, is the ONLY thing that changes things.
 
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