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GBL MEGATHREAD 6: The Germans didn't make Dan's

Ahhh fucking hell I miss the old G days. When absolutely munted of a pill of MDMA then taking g after....wow next thing you know you're crawling rounf the floor in animal howling states asking people why they're are so many fucking people around in my flat. Yeah, nobody there of course :D

Tell you what though, it would always go down rather nicely with acid. Big time!

back in the day i never needed anything besides ghb..it did fine on its own, it worked magic back then...

Coltdan-oh yeah that will kill the magic really fast..i noticed on days where i would use it 3 times, it was to the point where there wasnt even a high anymore, just a light energetic numbness...i didnt like that..

so wtf are you guys doing about the sleep issues at night??do you just tough it out and not sleep or take benzos or ambien or what?i need an effective method on how to minimize this problem..it really sucks knowing that if you are going out at night planning multiple doses that u know your sleep will be fucked..
 
Usually a benzo, i only seem to have sleep problems with it if ive overdone it though, if i end up wrecked with some sicky feeling i usually struggle to sleep after, and if i accidently knock myself out on it which ive done once then its very reboundy. kept around 1.2 every 2 hours and im usually fine. altho i do mix it with booze quite often which will help the sleep

Bit annoyed at myself for killing the magic, fuck sake
 
For me the worst thing about benzo is how I started to behave without them.
Somehow I little panic, insecurity and I felt shorter on my social skills.
I reached the point where I believed that without benzo, and even after withdraws and all, I would never again become like myself again.
I fight with that everyday..
 
For me the worst thing about benzo is how I started to behave without them.
Somehow I little panic, insecurity and I felt shorter on my social skills.
I reached the point where I believed that without benzo, and even after withdraws and all, I would never again become like myself again.
I fight with that everyday..

how long has it been since you quit benzos?

On the several times that i have quit opis or kratom for various lengths of time before relapsing it felt like having to learn how to live and enjoy anything without those substances and rebuild a life all over again. And man did time go so slowly or what. I guess it'll help having a job this time round, maybe the days wont feel quite so long and endless. I'll also have to stick to a getting up early in the mornings routine which should help with being able to get to sleep at a reasonable hour at night too. Confidence and mood felt low, which i guess is going to be an inevitable rebound effect until your brain starts upregulating its' endorphin production.

Although I've heard some people say that they've come through Bupe WDs and quitting feeling great afterwards, presumably because their brain is rewarding them for their achievement, as it really is a great achievement imo, and they went about the whole thing with a very positive mindset from the outset. My brain doesn't seem to do that, except for the first occasion. All the other quit (attempts) have felt like 'so what, i should gave done this months/years ago/and i shouldnt have allowed myself to get back into such habits again anyway'. So mentally i end up beating myself up rather than rewarding myself:\

Sorry this has FA to do with GBL, but this wouldnt be the first time a thread went a bit offtopic, and i sent it even more offtopic by responding to the slightly offtopic post.

To get back on-topic tonight I'll probably be mostly consuming GBL, trying to avoid porn and sticking to music instead. My newer PC has decided that it's gonna work again this last week, (i ran a load of repair tools and disk checks immediately that it loaded up so hopefully it will behave itself for a while now) and i believe it has a better sound card than the old one, so i'm looking forward to trying that out.
 
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Usually a benzo, i only seem to have sleep problems with it if ive overdone it though, if i end up wrecked with some sicky feeling i usually struggle to sleep after, and if i accidently knock myself out on it which ive done once then its very reboundy. kept around 1.2 every 2 hours and im usually fine. altho i do mix it with booze quite often which will help the sleep

Bit annoyed at myself for killing the magic, fuck sake

i dont think ill ever get to the point where Ghb works like it used to but oh well...i just wish i could keep it to using only 2-3 ties a week but fuck thats hard to do..either the stuff is that delicious or i need to find more things to do in my life..i think its a bit of both..

oh and btw, the anhedonia and boredom that comes from quitting drugs is the reason i keep going back to them..the boredom is killer when you are sober..
 
another thing that keeps me going back to Gbl is the social effects of it..it allows me to open up and feel loose without sloppy effects or the slowdown effects of benzos/alcohol..there is nothing else i have taken that has the anti anxiety AND energy boost that G gives you..
 
Bit annoyed at myself for killing the magic, fuck sake

I've hammered the living shit out of GBL for almost half your lifetime and never "lost the magic". Same applies to MDMA. Which begs the question... how the fuck do you manage to kill so much magic so quickly?!? 8o

Alternatively, you have simply become used to the effects due to taking regularly over a short period and "the magic" is always easy to rediscover under the right circumstances.

You decide!!!

<3
 
I've hammered the living shit out of GBL for almost half your lifetime and never "lost the magic". Same applies to MDMA. Which begs the question... how the fuck do you manage to kill so much magic so quickly?!? 8o

Alternatively, you have simply become used to the effects due to taking regularly over a short period and "the magic" is always easy to rediscover under the right circumstances.

You decide!!!

<3

u mean to tell me u get the same magical effects that you used to get when u first started taking Ghb?that same powerful euphoria, heightened sex drive etc etc?granted, these things are there for me but they have been majorly toned down...
 
i also definitely notice the 'pleasure teeter tauter' that was mentioned on the last mega thread that gbl brings..on the stuff everything is enjoyable and very pleasurable, i mean everything but off of it, not so much..lol...
 
I've hammered the living shit out of GBL for almost half your lifetime and never "lost the magic". Same applies to MDMA. Which begs the question... how the fuck do you manage to kill so much magic so quickly?!? 8o

Alternatively, you have simply become used to the effects due to taking regularly over a short period and "the magic" is always easy to rediscover under the right circumstances.

Shambles. We've read years' worth of your posts telling everyone how you don't suffer from G withdrawals, and how it magically doesn't affect you the same as others.

What you always fail to mention is that you are (or have been) pretty much always scripted a wide and wonderful array of benzos and other stuff from your doctor, not to mention all the other stuff you regularly do. It's no wonder your extensive use (and the cessation) of G affects you differently.

I'm beginning to be open about my use and abuse of G on here in order to help others. It's time you did too, instead of denying it and confusing others.

Lots of love. x
 
Shambles. We've read years' worth of your posts telling everyone how you don't suffer from G withdrawals, and how it magically doesn't affect you the same as others.

What you always fail to mention is that you are (or have been) pretty much always scripted a wide and wonderful array of benzos and other stuff from your doctor, not to mention all the other stuff you regularly do. It's no wonder your extensive use (and the cessation) of G affects you differently.

I'm beginning to be open about my use and abuse of G on here in order to help others. It's time you did too, instead of denying it and confusing others.

Lots of love. x

Quite, if I had benzos for every time I ended a g binge I'm sure my experiences would be different. What's that saying about the first sign of addiction? you have hairs on the palms of your hands or something like that?
 
Quite indeed, and the same here.

I've benefited massively from Shambles' and others' advice & help on the subject, so it's time to stop kidding ourselves that G withdrawals are something to just brush off as unusual.

Shammo: my post above was meant with the utmost respect. I hope you realise that. <3
 
I ended up with a xanax addiction getting over a G one. Neither one much fun and fucked me up for about a year.
 
How often is too often with this stuff? is every other day enough gap? every 3 days?
 
How long is a piece of G-addicted string?

It depends on your type of usage, your dosage, the frequency of those dosages, your tolerance, what you're mixing it with, whether you have benzos to smooth out the WDs and/or get to sleep, etc. etc. etc.

That fact you're asking (not for the first time) shows that you're concerned about your use. Give it a break for a week. Try only using it at weekends. Pour it out. I dunno. But I think it would be daft for anyone to just bluntly state that "every 3 days is OK" (for example, that's not my answer), because there are so many variables.
 
How often is too often with this stuff? is every other day enough gap? every 3 days?

if you're 'loosing the magic' it might be worth taking a more extended break of a couple of weeks, up to a month or longer. I'm amazed how long your supply is lasting considering how often you seem to be using it. Although i spose it is true that a little of this stuff goes a very long way. 5ml (not all at once) could be a good dose for a very enjoyable evening but obviously a 1000ml bottle woulnt even seem to register that reduction. I've really surprised myself with this stuff especially the way it has turned out that i can leave the stuff alone for ages. I only touch the stuff at weekends and this weekend cos im trying to do a kratom tolerance reset thing i possibly wont have any atall. (Well perhaps i will have a little bit later on today:)) Perhaps its because i currently only enjoy using the stuff for 2 things; enhancing listening to music, and for getting 'down and dirty'. :o:sus:

If im not in the mood for a 5 hour tunes or horn session it doesnt really tempt me and i dont even think about it, let alone crave it. I dont really enjoy it for genral activities like watching TV etc as i just fall alseep and wake up with a very strange feeling of Deja-vu about everything.:? Ive not risked going out on the stuff yet, although i think i would probably have a very good time on it, especially at a gig or a club that played good tunes, i just dont like the idea of potentially falling flat out asleep at a random location in busy a city centre. Its ages since i ordered a whole litre of the stuff, and ended up pouring most of that down the drain, as i was new to it at that time, and had used it 5 nights on the trot, by the 5th evening i felt cravings for it as it had been a stressfull day, and i took that as a warning signal to get rid.

A friendly supplier has sorted me out with a few 50ml vials which have been very useful in establishing my usage patterns and not being enough to get into any addictive usage patterns. Not sure if that option is still available or viable so the time might soon come again for ordering another litre bottle. I feel confident that this is one substance that isnt going to get the better of me. I dunno why it's worked out this way with GBL, maybe its just the way im wired, maybe its because ive listened to the advice of people who've ended up getting addicted, which sounds horrific, and the last thing i need is another addiction. Addiction is so last year, ha ha. But im thankful that it has worked this way, and that ive found one decent and enjoyable substance that im able to enjoy recreationally. Im getting very fed up of finding substance after substance only to discover that i have great difficulty controlling my usage of it, and ending up out of control and addicted. Well, strictly speaking that only aplies to benzo and opis, and opi type substances, as i can also use stims recreationally as they arent physically addictive, even for those with 'addicive personalities'.
 
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Cheers for the info, and yeah MDB still got around half the amount left i started off with. 10ml a day is my limit with it, on average probs 6/7ml a day two or 3 times a week. Only conked myself a couple times by accident with it so guess am being sensible-ish haha

Speaking of going out on the stuff, i was thinking about it, would be wicked. 1.2ml every 2 hours, could be a decent booze replacement, or mix nicely with booze. ontop of stims
 
I feel confident that this is one substance that isnt going to get the better of me. I dunno why it's worked out this way with GBL, maybe its just the way im wired, maybe its because ive listened to the advice of people who've ended up getting addicted, which sounds horrific, and the last thing i need is another addiction. Addiction is so last year, ha ha. But im thankful that it has worked this way, and that ive found one decent and enjoyable substance that im able to enjoy recreationally. Im getting very fed up of finding substance after substance only to discover that i have great difficulty controlling my usage of it, and ending up out of control and addicted. Well, strictly speaking that only aplies to benzo and opis, and opi type substances, as i can also use stims recreationally as they arent physically addictive, even for those with 'addicive personalities'.

Never let yourself become complacent. I used to feel that way but after 6 years G got the better of me.
 
Never let yourself become complacent. I used to feel that way but after 6 years G got the better of me.

just kaboom out of nowhere. I didnt manage 6 years but I mansged a year of binging with no sides at all and the dts just hit me out of nowhere on my way to work one morning. Id never experienced any kind of roughness from g prior to it. I cant even have a dose now without feelibg ropey now. The longer I binge the longer it lasts and get very nasty
 
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