GBL Megathread: 3ml and Wobbling

[Wahslab]

GBL hits harder and faster than GHB i would disagree that GHB is more euphoric at all just sounds like people were dosing irresponsibly.

I find it more euphoric to be honest. Perhaps that is just because it doesn't hit me in the face and try to knock me out. I can stay awake easier on slightly higher doses and enjoy the high.

 

[brokenbrain]

I don't understand how people can come to a harm reduction forum where drug nerds frequent and decide to offer some ill-informed harm reduction advice. Strange people indeed.

Thats what democracy is all about.
Soon we'll have Adolf Griffin on demanding we all be hanged, but it will still be allowed.

PS I have been taking guice for 3 days straight now. Last night in Tesco about 5pm my knee and elbow joints started seriously creaking and popping...which is still happening next day at 1pm. I wonder if this is to do with increased acidity in the blood? And don't say it doesn't cause increased acidity because in some people eg me it definetly does. I was next to the ready meals and couldn't work out what to buy as I became paranoid that my joints were being eroded away by acid corrosion
My current plan is to stop on Monday as I have 48 hours without appointments and medication available. I will however have access to 890ml guice and 150ml+ of BD....which is supposed to be for stocks and NOT 2 months straight taking

 

[FlippingTop]

I will however have access to 890ml guice and 150ml+ of BD....which is supposed to be for stocks and NOT 2 months straight taking

I bet loads of people will have been stocking up on GBL before the ban and then finding that they are flying through there stuff Luckily any G I have is out of reach...

 

[brokenbrain]

Well I have proved that I can come off it before with a load about. Its just that in order to fill my quota of useage then 250ml = 10 days on. So I have worked out that 1l = 40 days and I was going to get in 2l or more before christmas...and hope to fuck the cops don't raid me after....
Actually I have been saving my previous bottles and I came up with the idea to fill them up and go out in the woods and bury them. But I thought that was going to go wrong as a fox might dig them up and then I'd lose them to some wandering junkie....or start Fantastic Mr Fox off on the road to a serious addiction

So who out there has ever been raided for anything and can give me an idea of what to do with the extra quota I may have to do something about? And don't say to not buy it. I would like to have something like enough for 1 week on and 3 weeks off for all of next year and then hope that GHV or GVL start appearing online.
I mean if I put 1l into a vodka bottle what is the likelyhood of Mr Pig checking it out for non-ethanol action? Or will I really have to find some places in the woods to stash it?

 

[chrissie]

Think about things that could smell like that (nail polish remover, auto or stain cleaners)....

 

[brokenbrain]

Think about things that could smell like that (nail polish remover, auto or stain cleaners)....

I thought Nail Polish was acetone?
Now my thinking is that the pigs will get hold of all the records for the previous year from cetain websites...I know that one doesn't destroy recent records...so they will probably not give a fuck about someone ordering 125ml in August, but someone...known as SWIM...may perchance have plans to suddenly order WAY more than he ever has before to stock up for next years "drought".
So the pork based people will know that I bought X amount and will suspect that either I sold it or have stocked up and will burst around and search the place from top to bottom and take any suspect liquids away just in case they are GBL.

I also wonder how I am going to find the buried stuff in the woods....perhaps a certain mark on the nearest tree understandable only to me and put it into a fox proof bag...whatever that may be?

 

[chrisdahl]

Well I have proved that I can come off it before with a load about. Its just that in order to fill my quota of useage then 250ml = 10 days on. So I have worked out that 1l = 40 days and I was going to get in 2l or more before christmas...and hope to fuck the cops don't raid me after....
Actually I have been saving my previous bottles and I came up with the idea to fill them up and go out in the woods and bury them. But I thought that was going to go wrong as a fox might dig them up and then I'd lose them to some wandering junkie....or start Fantastic Mr Fox off on the road to a serious addiction

So who out there has ever been raided for anything and can give me an idea of what to do with the extra quota I may have to do something about? And don't say to not buy it. I would like to have something like enough for 1 week on and 3 weeks off for all of next year and then hope that GHV or GVL start appearing online.
I mean if I put 1l into a vodka bottle what is the likelyhood of Mr Pig checking it out for non-ethanol action? Or will I really have to find some places in the woods to stash it?

plug the 2 litres

 

[chrissie]

I guess I was thinking more in relation to the legality in the states and not having a huge quantity. I'm not sure what advice to offer or if it's against the forum guidelines.

 

[Carsick]

If you have your own garage, store it in there with other fluids so it doesn't look out of place. Otherwise keep it with your cleaning fluids under your sink or something.
If you don't have your own place then transferring it into a vodka bottle will work too but make sure it's stashed properly, you don't want somebody dying when they drink it by mistake.

 

[brokenbrain]

No place else to store it, my parents loft would be ideal, I could store a 365 day supply up there but getting it in there would be a problem and then of course if my dad found 20l things would NOT go well although he has no idea what it is.
No trust worthy people to stash it with.
I suppose under the sink would be ok...but I don't know what to buy that is cheap enough to chuck out and replace. Also if my suspicion is correct and the cops ram the door in in January then no doubt they will check all containers with liquid in them...perhaps I should buy some meths, pour it out, rinse it thoroughly and pour in purple dyed guice?
I think any help would be classed as harm reduction as it would help me to not get fucked by the cops
Otherwise that tree 300 paces from the NE side and 40 paces down the hill with the red ribbon round it will have a bit stashed under

 

[Carsick]

I don't know what the situation is like in Sheffield, but here in Bristol, the police just wouldn't bother. They have far more interesting things to be getting on with. I've gotten away with more than a few things I could potentially have got time for.

 

[chrisdahl]

If you have your own garage, store it in there with other fluids so it doesn't look out of place. Otherwise keep it with your cleaning fluids under your sink or something.
If you don't have your own place then transferring it into a vodka bottle will work too but make sure it's stashed properly, you don't want somebody dying when they drink it by mistake.

Come on, if the polis raided with the intention of busting some cunt for GBL they'd probably take every unsealed bottle of liquid they could find.

 

[Carsick]

I didn't say they wouldn't, I just don't think they'll raid on that basis.

 

[FlippingTop]

Would the police actually be able to raid a house where GBL has been delivered to? I know that people who bought meph online did get some visits, but I thought they were just 'friendly' chats?

 

[pfeife]

Hello there!

Have taken GBL at a few days in the past month. Twice when I took 1,5ml for sleeping aid (what didn't work at all because of the duration) and when I was dozing off I had a strange sensation - a strong vibration (not like spasms or tremors) on the whole body which was very comfortable. I had this once before and it was clearly hypnagogic and resulted in a lucid dream after strong relaxation.
I had no other hypnagogic perceptions like sounds, pseudo-hallucinations or CEVs.
Google says that it is some kind of hypnagogia but I want to know if anyone here was also experiencing this.

PS: Is it true that GBL of Chinese origin has a worse quality/purity?

Regards

 

[Shambles]

Hello there yourself, Pfeife

The sensations you describe sound like the effects of a borderline KO dose of GBL to me - you may find using 0.1-0.2ml less will be more comfortable for recreactional purposes or the same amount higher for KO doses. I would advise against using GBL to sleep though as the dopamine rebound makes it kinda counterproductive.

There's no evidence or reason to believe Chinese GBL is of better or worse purity than any other.

 

[pfeife]

Hi Shambles

1,5 ml is quite low for me, I usually take 1,7-1,8 ml and that's still stimulating. 2,2 ml is already quite sedating. However, like you said, GBL effects are somehow ambivalent (GHB receptor - excitatory, GABA - inhibitory).
I had a bad experience with 3,5 ml - strong nausea, sedation, anxiety and weird distortions of my perception. Is this nausea at high doses common or related to the irritation of the GI tract? Is it recommended to take it at empty stomach?

What is your most enjoyable dosage? When do you feel the max. stimulation (all asked)
My weight is 84 kg at 1,84 m

Regards,

 

[Shambles]

3.5ml would be a monster dose resulting in unconsciousness for virtually anyone. If you're still awake after taking that much I would imagine nausea, confusion and general weirdness would be quite likely. I don't get nausea from any dose but don't get nausea from much anyway - individual thing.

Speaking of individual things, dosage varies so much between people that it's not much use comparing doses. 1ml is enough to KO some folks and others can take 5ml+ and remain standing. My standard dose is 2ml.

The empty stomach thing seems to be debatable. On the one hand taking on a full stomach can reduce the effects greatly which means people redose too much too soon and pass out. On the other hand, dosing a strong irritant on an empty stomach is likely to cause nausea for many. I'd suggest maybe dosing an hour or so after a light meal would probably be best but it depends on the person.

 

[FlippingTop]

Has anyone else found that after dosing on an empty stomach, then eating say 1.5 hours later leaves you a lot messier than the initial high?

 

[Wahslab]

Has anyone else found that after dosing on an empty stomach, then eating say 1.5 hours later leaves you a lot messier than the initial high?

How do mean messier? Like needing to poo soon after or do you just mean does it hit you harder?

If it's the latter i.e. hitting harder then yes it will and faster on an empty stomach.