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GBL Megathread - 2nd dose

Ah right, that's allright then I guess. And nah I haven't, this the first time i've properly used it daily, so shouldn't be too bad then.
 
I think I may have finally regained the Guicey magic :)

Has taken weeks of strictly limiting use to a couple of doses at night max, but it seems to be working. I actually felt euphoric from GBL tonight instead of just achy and vaguely horny. Tis good :)

Don't abuse GBL, kiddies. It stops being fun :|

Well, until you have a lil break anyway :)
 
Hi, pontifex. Welcome to BL and EADD - make yourself at home and have fun :)

As far as losing the magic goes, I know the feeling (see post above yours) and it is easy to do. GBL seems to be a very odd substance. When I first started using it I used 24/7 for weeks and months on end with no problems with withdrawal or "losing the magic"... but that changed. Other folks have used just a handful of times and go straight to the magicless withdrawal stage. Tis odd.

From all I have seen, it appears to depend completely on the individual. If you are noticing reduced effects after such a relatively brief time and light use then I suspect you may be in the more sensitive category. I think the only answer is to use less often and take bigger breaks.

I lost the magic in a big way after dosing 24/7 for months on end and it took weeks of reduced use to get any of that magic back. If your'e only using lightly at weekends then I guess you can only cut back on that use or take a longish break. Not a "good" answer but it does seem to work out that way :\.
 
I would suspect something to do with the GABA oojamaflips in the brain. I believe they get downgraded (?) by certain substances. I suppose a bit like a booze, benzos, peevee or some other GABA-basher habit - you have to use more to get the effect but if you use more geebee you just pass out so there's a ceiling on it. Just my imaginings though. I really wouldn't know. Just flapping my typing fingers.
 
GABA-B is only one of the receptors that it works on, and probably doesn't account for a lot of the euphoric effects - just the sedative ones. Phenibut is a GABA-B agonist and causes me no euphoria, which kind of proves that point. GBL/GHB also work on serotonin and dopamine, which I predict are the main cause of the euphoria, and the reason that it mixes so well with other drugs. It has been shown to increase serotonin turnover, and release dopamine at low doses, and possibly inhibit its release at high doses (one of the theories for the 'rebound' effect is dopamine, although I am quite sure it's mainly down to GABA-B downregulation). A break of a few days, for me, seems to bring the magic back for another day of 24/7 use. Even after a prologued break, I still only get the magic back for a day, and it quickly turns sour, which is either because I very quickly develop withdrawal symptoms, or because my brain has adapted to the effects, very much like it does with ecstasy. There is no straight answer, but there are many factors to consider. You seem to be quite unlucky, as Shambles has said. Try and limit yourself to one single dose per time, for a few weeks, and see if you get on any better. You'd be surprised. You'd also reduce the chances of become psychically dependant, which you really don't want, because once you've been there a few times, it becomes a bastard to use recreationally, and the side effects are much more pronounced. Good luck!
 
From all the information I have read on GBL/GHB, there is none to suggest that there is any damage to the brain, or organs, from even heavy, long-term (ab)use. The Wikipedia article is quite good, and will probably contain links to medical studies. I think the only changes that would occur are loss of magic, and that these changes wouldn't affect the way your brain works when sober.
 
D's. Reading your post about losing weight I find mysef asking why or how? When I use the G I find myself hungry as fuck afterm so dont understand the weight loss.

I just had a heavy weekend of coke / MDMA / GBL abuse and have only just started feeling 'human' again. What a great weekend and what a fucking fantastic combination G and MDMA is! :D
 
Treacle said:
From all the information I have read on GBL/GHB, there is none to suggest that there is any damage to the brain, or organs, from even heavy, long-term (ab)use. The Wikipedia article is quite good, and will probably contain links to medical studies. I think the only changes that would occur are loss of magic, and that these changes wouldn't affect the way your brain works when sober.
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although if you suffer anxiety, repeated addictions can increase anxiety by a lot during the periods when you are not on the drug i have found.
 
Carsick said:
I'm pretty much drawing to a close my usual cyclces, so will have to buy a small ottle, and have the key holder somebody who can say no to me and proably phscically stop if needs be) that not that lsat bit will happen.
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Carsick - check your facebook!
 
From the sound of it it's similar to MDMA as far as therapeutic potential goes; helps you out a little bit, and if you try taking more than it's going to give you'll get slapped in the face, hard.....
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I think you've got it in one there, pontifex. I would suspect that it's the same for any chemical "cure" for anxiety - it will work wonders in the short term but will only make things worse long term. Best used sparingly and not as a crutch, I would say.

Maybe look into alternative ways of dealing with anxiety - CBT seems to come highly recommended by many BLers. There's a thread on anxiety here that may or may not be of use to you :)

PS: I've just bought another 500ml :|

:D:D:D
 
Don't know, but I would imagine it's alright. May take the edge of the coke but may add to it as well. I'd maybe try a small dose and find out - you could be our EADD guinea pig :D

It would most likely be great for the comedown at least, I would think :)

As to bottle size - I'm tight and skint so resent paying more for less. If I had the cash I'd be buying litres to save money. Also, I oink a lot.
 
one line, around 2.5 inches long just went up the right nostril. Going downstairs now to get a glass to make me a Guice drink! Then I will report back!

I have lined up another one too because I know the fiending will get to me. I'm almost setting myself up to see how the G helps that....In the name of science of course!

Do guinea pigs oink? If not naturally, this EADD guinea pig surly will in a few mins!
 
See I'm the opposite. I don't like doing it in public.

It used to make me chatty and center of the party but now (after some serious abuse over the years and a small addiction problem) it makes me go into myself and not want to talk or party or anything.

Its strange, I go into a kind of little anti-social bubble where I like to text and e-mail to people but not speak direct. If you want to start a coke discussion about it I would be happy to discuss it further but will probably get told off for talking about it in the GBL threat! :P

About to drink G now by the way....got distracted!
 
^ Talking about combos of G and other substances is okay in the GBL thread as far as I'm concerned. Tis all good and useful info :)

I've not had the oppurtunity to try coke and G together but it sounds like it would work and Evad approves so I suspect you're in for a good afternoon. Enjoy and report back :)
 
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