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Games people play

I can't stand partners who play games. Fcuk 'em off I rekon.

Mind games make it hard to connect with someone in a genuine way.

"Oh.. look what you've done.. you've made a fool of every one.." - Jet

Top song too :)
 
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im not much of a game player, about all i ever did was pick fights with my boy just cos i knew i was always gonna win.
 
jeN2O said:
I love playin games with boys! They do NOT know what they're gettin themselves into, but they always fuck things up in the beginning and the games have started. I will own your ass, let's play those games! You will not win, that's for sure, and you will not enjoy the games so much once your ass gets owned badly! I love schoolin boys at what they think is their own game, they do not know what's up, and I will fuck things up for them for awhile. If you give me a reason to play games with you, then just watch for the shock waves in all your shit. I'll show you boys what's up! I'd school your ass all the way around the playground! Wanna play? :)
what goes around comes around, if your like this good thing is that someday someone will fuck you over so bad or you will loose the one guy that you could of loved for ever.
 
jeN2O said:
I love playin games with boys! They do NOT know what they're gettin themselves into, but they always things up in the beginning and the games have started. I will own your ass, let's play those games! You will not win, that's for sure, and you will not enjoy the games so much once your ass gets owned badly! I love schoolin boys at what they think is their own game, they do not know what's up, and I will things up for them for awhile. If you give me a reason to play games with you, then just watch for the shock waves in all . I'll show you boys what's up! I'd school your ass all the way around the playground! Wanna play? :)

I got a game we can play. It's called Who Wants to be an Adult?

Lucipher said:
share? why? so unoriginal people like you can copy my shit and then pass it off as their own, go yourself.

Lucipher, you can be the next contestant.

8)
 
I've never really been in a relationship, but I can't ever imagine doing anything mentioned in this topic to someone I loved.
 
jeN2O said:
I love playin games with boys! They do NOT know what they're gettin themselves into, but they always fuck things up in the beginning and the games have started. I will own your ass, let's play those games! You will not win, that's for sure, and you will not enjoy the games so much once your ass gets owned badly! I love schoolin boys at what they think is their own game, they do not know what's up, and I will fuck things up for them for awhile. If you give me a reason to play games with you, then just watch for the shock waves in all your shit. I'll show you boys what's up! I'd school your ass all the way around the playground! Wanna play? :)

Ladies, these few ruin it for the rest of you.

Emotional unresponsiveness and uncaring here I come....
 
I wanted to start a thread like this...I guess I can just wake this one up

I've only just started to wake up to the truth of how people play games with yourself, and your thoughts and feelings.

There's a book by that title, but I haven't read it, so anyone that has might be able to give me some good responses.

I'd like to start a thread about some of the really specific ('tactical') shit people do to play other people, that you guys have become aware of. But I did a search and found this thread, so I'll post it here.

I've just recently become very aware of the 'But you only had to apologise and I wouldn't have gotten upset' fucking game. It's what people say to you after you finally, and truthfully, decide to stand your own ground and not budge. The aggressor realises that pushing you back won't work anymore...but more than that. They realise that ARE wrong. This is important. Because they do actually have a sense of how far wrong they are. And so they just say, 'Look, all you needed to do was apologise, and I wouldn't have been cool.' And often, following that statement, they start ranting about respect and how other people are always pissing them off and not apologising. But back to that later. I made the stupid mistake first time, because I was scared and intimidated, of apologising. Don't. If you can avoid it, don't do it. They know that they've just been fucked because you took you're stand, all they're power has been based on a fucking lie up till then, and getting you to apologise is just a way of salvaging some 'position'. The fact of the matter was, I said something very inconsequential, and did not intend for it, nor knew that it would piss him off, and instead of simply saying (declaring simply), 'look mate, what you said pissed me off', he launched into a broad-stroke fucking attack on me. And then these assholes have the nerve to talk about respect. Fuck you that has to be earned.

Anyway, I hope some people here read this and feel and as pissed off as I do, and realise that no matter how much some son of a bitch passionately raves about respect and understanding, after they've just tried to scare the shit out of you, or hold something over you, it's a fucking game, it has rules, it has a pattern, it has a pathology, and it has nothing to do with understanding, respect or anything else. Keep your wits, and keep a good journal in your head of all this shit, it becomes obvious.
 
At the end of the day, the sort of game playing that you described is based on the inability to be upfront and honest. Your interaction with them, and their response speaks more about their insecurity than anything else.
 
I dont know if Ive ever played thought out "games" like some of you guys are describing. BUt I have gone through times when I was younger of kinda screwing with guys heads to see if they would end up liking me or not (like without outright flirting..just seeing if I could get them to want me by being around them). Ive never really played games on purpose that I can think of. Most of my mindgames stemmed from being a confused kid. :\
 
Most of my mindgames stemmed from being a confused kid.

Same here. But when I reflected more on my behaviour, I realised that I didn't need to be fully aware of what I, or anyone else, was doing, in order for it to be a genuine, very structured game. Often just seeing the game clearly stops people from playing it out.
 
I don't mind mild game playing, if it's all in good fun. I like when a woman plays a little hard to get at first, it keeps me interested.

On the other hand overt emotional maipulation is something I don't tolerate. I've been around long enough to recognize it when I see it. The great thing about relationships is that they take two people. You always have the choice to walk away. Instead of thiking "am I winning?" they should be thinking "how can I keep things interesting?"

I think a lot of it comes from insecurity. The manipulator feels they need to manipulate the victim to keep them around since they feel they'd lose the person otherwise.
 
wizekrak said:
On the other hand overt emotional maipulation is something I don't tolerate. I've been around long enough to recognize it when I see it. The great thing about relationships is that they take two people. You always have the choice to walk away. Instead of thiking "am I winning?" they should be thinking "how can I keep things interesting?"

I think a lot of it comes from insecurity. The manipulator feels they need to manipulate the victim to keep them around since they feel they'd lose the person otherwise.
Totally agree with you here mate.

I've been manipulated in the sense that he needed to feel power over someone and noone else would put up with his shit. I was insecure/lonely at the time so pittyed him and put up with it. He took me on an emotional rollercoaster ride.

I constantly tried to pull away but i just couldn't. He was good at picking up on my weekness, and he played on that every time i got the guts to leave. I couldn't handle guilt. And he would guilt trip me by saying things like "but without you i would be on the streets and have no money to eat" and "no-one cares about me, i give everyone everything i have and they just take it for granted". When in REALITY it was/is the complete opposite. He didn't have anyone in his life because he took them for a ride, used them and abused them.

The saddest thing was i think, that he didn't even realise he was doing it. I've been told otherwise, that he knows exactly what his doing and am also inclined to believe that but hey, the whole thing about manipulation/games is you're manipulated into thinking something they want you to.

I've played the whole "hard to get thing" when i was younger. About as far as it's gone though. I'm not interested in games.
 
pullstring said:
but in some ways I wonder if we all manipulate, be it good or bad reasons
i agree, manipulation can actually be a pretty broad term. And people surely do subconsiously do it, be it to protect themselves from something or get their own way or whatnot. It's not always used to intentionally hurt.
 
pullstring said:
but in some ways I wonder if we all manipulate, be it good or bad reasons

Oh absolutely. When I meet someone I'm interested in I become a sponge and absorb and analyze every detail about them. Then I plan my attack. I'm not malicious about it so maybe manipulation isn't the best word for it, but it's using information given to achieve an end, so I guess it's more strategizing.

Some of my close friends are huge womanizers and know exactly how to work a woman. They get laid when ever they like but they have problems hanging onto women or meeting genuine quality girls. I can see what they're doing from a mile away and I have a feeling most well grounded girls can as well, which is why they tend to end up with emotionally unstable or toxic girls. But they're out to get laid not to find a relationship.

I think by and large we all alter our behaviour to a degree to acheive what we want, it's biological.
 
but even still when you want to do something special for yourself (buy a game,drugs,movie,whatever) how many times have you ever cooked your S/Os favorite dinner, cleaned house EXTRA careful, just to help ensure no negative response?

I will admit I am bad with that for getting laid. My wife needs to feel really comfy and happy to "put out" and if I am really horny I scrub the hell out of things (i help keep house clean but go that extra mile) and cook a really tasty dinner for her to seal the deal.
 
I had one woman who I had sex with and we'd agreed that it was sex only and that we'd go our seperate ways afterwards and she wound up stalking me and saying how she was in "love" with me after we didn't even know each other for an entire day and I'd made out with her, masturbated her, used a crop on her, and I gave her agressive/dominant oral sex.

I had one guy I dated for a short period of time this past summer who got REALLY flaky and contradictory (he said how I was too aggressive when I kissed him and I was not because I didn't spank/bite him or twist his nipples when we kissed, and I like kissing men and being affectionate), he didn't seem to even really know what he wanted out of everything, we had sex pretty fast (I don't regret this and I'm just glad I didn't blow him since I only give head to men/women who are special to me) and he acted like he did want to date me or at least be friends, and then he'd get really flakey and wouldn't return phone calls or emails or even maintain a friendship.

Also he told me how I should get a job where he works and I just said how this didn't seem like a good idea at all and how I wouldn't do this with anyone who I date even if we never did sleep together.

I had another guy who I also currently date and we were studying for an exam at work (we no longer work together) and I did really want to have sex with him and he said how we wouldn't be doing this at all that night and then I was a bit let down but after we studied he seduced me and I liked this, and I thought "aw man, I really want some sex with him but it's not gonna happen tonight!" and then it did!
 
I'm way too naive and innocently honest to be able to play games. I seriously don't have the capacity to consciously manipulate someone. I can't sit down and think, "if I act this way, they will react this way and then I will get what I want"

So naturally I've been played in the past. My ex was brilliant at winding me up - just pushing and pushing on a little thing until I would snap.

I once dated a guy who called me on the phone about a week after we hooked up. The conversation turned to what appeared to be a secret he had. He didn't want to tell me. But then after a little pleading by me and his semi-reluctance he told me he had contracted crabs. Yick. I took this on board and went to school the next day (this was some years ago, I was only a teenager). That weekend I stayed at my best friends place (who also knew the guy). We got talking, as girls do and she soon knew that I knew something she didn't know. After MUCH weedling, she got it out of me. I didn't want to tell her and it took about an hour of cajoling.

Two days later the guy calls and tells me it was ALL A SET UP. He had made up the entire story and had told my best friend the plan and urged her to coax the "secret" out of me. He did it to "find out how trustworthy I was".

I mean how fucked up is that?????? That guy was a serious serious headcase, always messing with girls heads.
About a year later a girl he was dating at the time committed suicide. I know he wasn't totally at fault but I honestly think that his head games played a significant part in destroying an already fragile life. Very very fucked up.
 
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