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Games people play

To me a game is something that is fun and exiting for everyone involved, nobody is playing to "win", and manipulation is not a game.

It's like a dance. I'd rather dance than go up to a chick and say "hey, i think you're cute." how fucking boring.
 
I suppose everyone plays games, especially in the beginning. the problem is when one person just can't stop playing games, so you never know what is real, or when the games go from being fun to just outright cruel.

So where's the line?
 
I dunno...as you get to know somebody more you just start to become more and more real with them and you see their true self.

Life is a game to me...When I...'play games' it's not like i have on this mask, it's still me, i just don't take everything so seriously. I guess as somebody grows on you and vice versa you form a deeper bond with them and you can relate in so many more ways than just 'having fun.' This is when i know i've found someone special.


The problem I have with Eric Bernes' book(tho it is awesome) is that he examines human relationships in such a linear way. I don't think things are really like that in reality...there are too many factors involved in human relationships.

My favorite part of the book is in the beginning when he analyzes a simple "hello, hows the whether" type of conversation and the subtext behind it.
 
I have to admit, I've never read the book, but after reading Kurt Vonnegut's review of it, I want to. I'm going to check it out.

An example:
The following is a brief description of the Life Game Now I've Got You, You Son of a Bitch (NIGYSOB) from Games People Play by Dr. Eric Berne.
This can be seen in classic form in poker games. White gets an unbeatable hand, such as four aces. At this point, if he is a NIGYSOB player, he is more interested in the fact that Black is completely at his mercy than he is in good poker or making money.

White needed some plumbing fixtures installed, and he reviewed the costs very carefully with the plumber before giving him a go-ahead. The price was set, and it was agreed that there would be no extras. When the plumber submitted his bill, he included a few dollars extra for an unexpected valve that had to be installed – about four dollars on a four-hundred-dollar job. White became infuriated, called the plumber on the phone and demanded an explanation. The plumber would not back down. White wrote him a long letter criticizing his integrity and ethics and refused to pay the bill until the extra charge was withdrawn. The plumber finally gave in.

It soon became obvious that both White and the plumber were playing games. In the course of their negotiations, they had recognized each other's potentials. The plumber made his provocative move when he submitted his bill. Since White had the plumber's word, the plumber was clearly in the wrong. White now felt justified in venting almost unlimited rage against him. Instead of merely negotiating in a dignified way that befitted the Adult standards he set for himself, perhaps with a little innocent annoyance, White took the opportunity to make extensive criticisms of the plumber's whole way of living... White was exploiting his trivial but socially defensible objection (position) to vent the pent-up furies of many years of his cozening opponent, just as his mother might have done in a similar situation. He quickly recognized his underlying attitude (NIGYSOB) and realized how secretly delighted he had been at the plumber's provocation. He then recalled that ever since early childhood he had looked for similar injustices, received them with delight and exploited them with the same vigor. In many of the cases he recounted, he had forgotten the actual provocation, but remembered in great detail the course of the ensuing battle. The plumber, apparently, was playing some variation of 'Why Does This Always Happen to Me?' (WAHM).
http://www.ericberne.com/games/games_people_play_NIGYSOB.htm
 
I just got totally played recently, up until now, I've heard of games and things like that but never thought I would come across a girl like that.

Basically this girl was being flirty with me at first and strung me along hardcore, when she wasn't really interested, she just wanted the attention. The good thing is I realized what was going on after only about a week, and by the next week I had ended it and cut off all contact with her.

I guess she got pissed that I actually recognized her for what she was and ended it first, I'm sure she would have liked to string me along for as long as possible, keeping me as her plaything. Naturally she started talking shit about me afterwards to some mutual friends.

Lol it definitely was a learning experience though, there are some nasty people out there. Maybe it's my fault for being too straightforward and genuine.
 
Interesting. How did you know she wasn't really interested? Don't get me wrong, I've seen girls string guys along before so I know it happens, but how did you know after only one week she wasn't really interested in you?
 
Beatlebot said:
Interesting. How did you know she wasn't really interested? Don't get me wrong, I've seen girls string guys along before so I know it happens, but how did you know after only one week she wasn't really interested in you?

It was actually agonizing lol to tell at first... like we would be cuddling hardcore but she wouldn't allow it any further, but that in itself isn't a determinant, because hey, maybe she wanted to take it slow and I'm cool with that. But then there were some major signs, like when we meet it's just like a bland hug and no smile, instead of being enthusiastic like me she would just act kinda shifty. (but always by the end of the night there would seem to be some serious interest)

But she would still talk to me all the time, we would hang out every day, and it was just like a seesaw for me. Then by the end of the first week I made a physical advance where it was definitely appropriate and it was just shrugged off coldly. But then her flirting resumed the next day like whoa; even so, I knew by then what was going on.

This was confirmed by the end of the second week, right after I ended it, when she started talking shit saying like I'm bitter just because she only liked me as a friend. But what kind of friends physically flirt so hardcore like that (sometimes it seemed like we would be fucking within the next 60 seconds, but then it dissipates)? Doesn't seem to make sense, what does make sense is that she wants me drooling over her continuously and boosting her self-esteem.

Sigh lol
 
No, not really. I just kinda ended it and stopped talking to her. (probably immature of me but then again I don't like being played)

But even though I'm really paranoid sometimes, literally all my suspicions were confirmed afterwards by mutual friends who talked to her.
 
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