Big_Red
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tried chards this morning for the first time and I like it.Its one of those things I'm not going to do all the time.
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PhreeX
Bluelight Crew
Hey, whatever is cool... I was never addicited to heroin, only meth and ketamine - both addictions were kicked when *I* opened my eyes and realized that *I* was addicited... yeah, the drug were pleasurable, but it was *I* who made the choice to keep using...
Don't blame the drug for the users weakness..
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Don't blame the drug for the users weakness..
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"can you do anything without insulting someone? your a bastard cry baby bitch.."
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SomeoneLikeME
Bluelighter
Sorry, I haven't been on the bored lately, so I just saw your recent post! As for me, It's not too bad, I have only been doing it for about a year, and at first the comedowns were SHIT!!!!!! But now, honestly, It doesn't really bother me. Normally I get a little shakey and really irritated with everyone...but for some odd reason, if I do manage to get still and lie down, if I just lay there, I finally go to sleep. I normally have all day Sunday to sleep too. Also, some sex helps with that too!! ( When I'm not so fucking irritable!!!!) But, then again, the comedowns can't be too bad...I still do it....That could be my fault
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"...I really don't mind what happens now and then, as long as you'll be my friend in the end..." -"Kryptonite" Three Doors Down
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CrimsonQueen
Bluelighter
Sweet-E: I so, so, so agree with you. I never did all of those things too, but I think I'm addicted.
dr seuss: Why do you think if only selling all your things you are considered addicted?
Firstly, thank you so much for the contributors of information, I am greatly enlightened. Meth/speed/uppers/crank/ampethemines/whizz/whatever-you-like-to-call-it...has, and always been a topic of much discussion in the forum, in various aspects. Is it truly addictive? Is it really worth the fucking comedowns? I do not know. But I will relate my story here.
I took my first E when I was 14, and I remembered my curiousity to speed after reading it up on erowid. You see, I have always been lazy, unproductive...I'm the kind who'd rather die than get out of bed to clean up the water spilled on a carpet from my careless hands. Thus, I thought 'speed/meth/whatever-you-like-to-call-it' would solve my problems. It would give me motivation, I could solve all my problems in a day which would take a week normally. I could get up and go to school, I could fly pass exams. Until I realize something called 'comedowns'. I swear I spent morning-afters crying and screaming at my boyfriend over the phone, telling him I felt like shit, I need something now, I fucking felt like SHIT. He could do nothing but felt hurt and used.
On the surface, I wouldn't look much like a meth addict. I probably have done speed/meth overall less than ten times. But each time left me more craving physcologically than the last. I'm a very emotionally unstable person, and I had been diagonsed with clinical depression the same year I took E, which followed a mass of suicide attempts. Drugs seemed to fuck me up more.
But the important thing is, I can't stop thinking about it anymore. It seems to make everything so much better, life so much easier, for someone like me. It feels right. My head feels right, I could think clearly. I didn't like other drugs because I always lost the coherant part of myself somewhere in the back of my mind. I probably think about it more than what you defined as an addict do, because I do less of it. I could write the word 'meth' in my notebook a thousand times, but I wouldn't do anything about it.
Now, I am going to indugle in my desires. I am going to get so much that it's gonna last me a month. Hope I survive.
dr seuss: Why do you think if only selling all your things you are considered addicted?
Firstly, thank you so much for the contributors of information, I am greatly enlightened. Meth/speed/uppers/crank/ampethemines/whizz/whatever-you-like-to-call-it...has, and always been a topic of much discussion in the forum, in various aspects. Is it truly addictive? Is it really worth the fucking comedowns? I do not know. But I will relate my story here.
I took my first E when I was 14, and I remembered my curiousity to speed after reading it up on erowid. You see, I have always been lazy, unproductive...I'm the kind who'd rather die than get out of bed to clean up the water spilled on a carpet from my careless hands. Thus, I thought 'speed/meth/whatever-you-like-to-call-it' would solve my problems. It would give me motivation, I could solve all my problems in a day which would take a week normally. I could get up and go to school, I could fly pass exams. Until I realize something called 'comedowns'. I swear I spent morning-afters crying and screaming at my boyfriend over the phone, telling him I felt like shit, I need something now, I fucking felt like SHIT. He could do nothing but felt hurt and used.
On the surface, I wouldn't look much like a meth addict. I probably have done speed/meth overall less than ten times. But each time left me more craving physcologically than the last. I'm a very emotionally unstable person, and I had been diagonsed with clinical depression the same year I took E, which followed a mass of suicide attempts. Drugs seemed to fuck me up more.
But the important thing is, I can't stop thinking about it anymore. It seems to make everything so much better, life so much easier, for someone like me. It feels right. My head feels right, I could think clearly. I didn't like other drugs because I always lost the coherant part of myself somewhere in the back of my mind. I probably think about it more than what you defined as an addict do, because I do less of it. I could write the word 'meth' in my notebook a thousand times, but I wouldn't do anything about it.
Now, I am going to indugle in my desires. I am going to get so much that it's gonna last me a month. Hope I survive.
Second Round KO
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I've never done meth because one thing has held me back.. I've had some issues with anxiety in my past, but I've been fine for a couple years. I've done E, coke, and a lot of pharmaceuticals (oxy, valium, vicodin, ..) but never meth or acid because I am worried about freaking out.
If I were to take a drug like xanex with meth or acid, either at the beginning, or when if I begin to feel slight panic, would I be okay? how does a drug like xanex work with LSD or speed? when should you take it?
If I were to take a drug like xanex with meth or acid, either at the beginning, or when if I begin to feel slight panic, would I be okay? how does a drug like xanex work with LSD or speed? when should you take it?
starlightgemini
Bluelighter
Originally posted by fairnymph:
i'm lucky in that i'm not the kind of person who gets easily addicted to drugs.
yes--you are VERY lucky
<=== has been addicted for 6 months
sad thing is...i fell into the BAD side from the start. i tried meth one week--next week went out and "stocked up" b/c i was told by my tweaker friends that good shit was hard to come by...i bought 5 bags FULLY BELIEVING that would last me AT LEAST 5 wks. 7 days after opening the first bag (mind you this was like my first actual experience with meth)-- it was gone. and i found myself crying and wondering what the fuck was going on. its only gotten worse
ewww....i sound yucky. i'm ok--really. i've been clean for 9 days. longest break i've had since i snorted my first line. not that 9 days is much to brag about.
***starlight
fairnymph
Ex-Bluelighter
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Oh honey, I'm sorry. That really sucks. But I must say that I am immensely proud of you for those last nine days -- keep it up! And DON'T BE AFRAID to turn to friends or family for help. I know that when I am in trouble (in other ways, I haven't had drug trouble yet), I am my own worst enemy in that I dont' turn to help. It's like I have too much pride, and so I try and hide my faults and my problems. Don't do that -- get help if you can't make it on your own, and don't feel embarassed for one second. You will feel more embarassed when you dig your grave deeper and realized that you could have gotten help but didn't.
Go to the dark side if you need help, or hit me up on AIM or email me. I know that you are a very strong girl and you will fight this. Good luck honey.
Oh honey, I'm sorry. That really sucks. But I must say that I am immensely proud of you for those last nine days -- keep it up! And DON'T BE AFRAID to turn to friends or family for help. I know that when I am in trouble (in other ways, I haven't had drug trouble yet), I am my own worst enemy in that I dont' turn to help. It's like I have too much pride, and so I try and hide my faults and my problems. Don't do that -- get help if you can't make it on your own, and don't feel embarassed for one second. You will feel more embarassed when you dig your grave deeper and realized that you could have gotten help but didn't.
Go to the dark side if you need help, or hit me up on AIM or email me. I know that you are a very strong girl and you will fight this. Good luck honey.
Been using meth/speed for the past 3-4 years, intermittently...
I primarily use it for school and work, whenever the need arises. Which is probably one of the reasons I have had such a beautiful and productive relationship with the drug. Long term use of the drug with no signs of addiciton, because I really only use it for work, never play. (The beauty of it all is that work IS play on meth, sigh, it's like God's own candy...).
That and I must have an anti-meth gene somewhere because at the MOST, after day 3 of being awake I would rather knife myself than do more meth. I tend to build a natural aversion to it as I do it, instead of the oppostie like most people. Thus, I never get any sort of crash from meth at all, no cravings or anything like that. I have no trouble putting the shit down and going to sleep. Well I have a fuckload of touble actually falling asleep...but that's why Satan invented benzo's...
I primarily use it for school and work, whenever the need arises. Which is probably one of the reasons I have had such a beautiful and productive relationship with the drug. Long term use of the drug with no signs of addiciton, because I really only use it for work, never play. (The beauty of it all is that work IS play on meth, sigh, it's like God's own candy...).
That and I must have an anti-meth gene somewhere because at the MOST, after day 3 of being awake I would rather knife myself than do more meth. I tend to build a natural aversion to it as I do it, instead of the oppostie like most people. Thus, I never get any sort of crash from meth at all, no cravings or anything like that. I have no trouble putting the shit down and going to sleep. Well I have a fuckload of touble actually falling asleep...but that's why Satan invented benzo's...
Methanfelony
Bluelighter
Well, I was introduced to meth about a year ago, did it for one night and then during the summer on a trip for about eight straight days. For no particular reason, I didn't do it the rest of the summer (I couldn't easily get a hold of it, but I wasn't craving it or anything so it didn't really matter), but since the school year started I've done it between ten and fifteen times, maybe about once every 2 weeks. Personally, I find that I enjoy it basically more than any other drug I've ever encountered (with the possible exception of E), but that I also don't crave it at all. I know most people might think I'm lying when I say this, or at least deluding myself, but I had about 1.5 grams and 2 brand-new pipes in my room for two weeks that I never touched, or even comtemplated touching, so I think I'm being reasonably honest with myself.
Anyway, virtually every time that I have used I have followed a particular pattern: we start smoking sometime at night (perhaps 10 or 11), and then continue straight through until the morning early afternoon. I then go home or whatever and just relax for the rest of the day. A lot of people that I know have huge problems coming down off the drug, but I find that by doing it this way my body isn't tired at all (obviously) during the whole night I do it, and by smoking it the next morning I am able make it through the day feeling very content while gradually getting tired. Thus, I just go to sleep the next night normally, and my sleeping pattern is never disturbed and I feel fine. It seems to me that use for only a night at a time is quite optimal, as my body feels much worse the longer that I do it consecutively, and I also seem to get less and less high as the binge continues if I go longer than a full night and day.
However, I am quite aware of the fact that people respond VERY differently to meth. For instance, a buddy of mine stares out the window for hours, thinking the cops are always coming (it's not pretty, let me tell you). Furthermore, if he does it at all it's always for as long as he can do it regardless of how much he is spending or how it is affecting him. In my opinion, he should never touch the stuff again, as it absolutely ruins him.
So, I guess that is my experience, and there's not much more to say. Hope I've helped you. However, on a side note, I would be interested to hear if anyone else follows a similar pattern of abbreviated use or if anyone can tell me why people have such disparate reactions to it (I'm guessing it's just that we all have a unique body chemistry)? Thanks.
Anyway, virtually every time that I have used I have followed a particular pattern: we start smoking sometime at night (perhaps 10 or 11), and then continue straight through until the morning early afternoon. I then go home or whatever and just relax for the rest of the day. A lot of people that I know have huge problems coming down off the drug, but I find that by doing it this way my body isn't tired at all (obviously) during the whole night I do it, and by smoking it the next morning I am able make it through the day feeling very content while gradually getting tired. Thus, I just go to sleep the next night normally, and my sleeping pattern is never disturbed and I feel fine. It seems to me that use for only a night at a time is quite optimal, as my body feels much worse the longer that I do it consecutively, and I also seem to get less and less high as the binge continues if I go longer than a full night and day.
However, I am quite aware of the fact that people respond VERY differently to meth. For instance, a buddy of mine stares out the window for hours, thinking the cops are always coming (it's not pretty, let me tell you). Furthermore, if he does it at all it's always for as long as he can do it regardless of how much he is spending or how it is affecting him. In my opinion, he should never touch the stuff again, as it absolutely ruins him.
So, I guess that is my experience, and there's not much more to say. Hope I've helped you. However, on a side note, I would be interested to hear if anyone else follows a similar pattern of abbreviated use or if anyone can tell me why people have such disparate reactions to it (I'm guessing it's just that we all have a unique body chemistry)? Thanks.
fairnymph
Ex-Bluelighter
Brainrape--
I too do not understand how people could get addicted to meth. I have used it more for work than for play, and I never have the urge to do more after doing some. I have done it two days in a row on a couple of occasions to manage my work, but I never wanted to keep going. When I come down I want to SLEEP, not do another dose. The comedown absolutely does not make me want to do more. And I find the same thing with coke -- after how shitty you feel, why would you WANT to do more?
I too do not understand how people could get addicted to meth. I have used it more for work than for play, and I never have the urge to do more after doing some. I have done it two days in a row on a couple of occasions to manage my work, but I never wanted to keep going. When I come down I want to SLEEP, not do another dose. The comedown absolutely does not make me want to do more. And I find the same thing with coke -- after how shitty you feel, why would you WANT to do more?
jerzeezfinest
Bluelight Crew
I COMPLETELY agree w/ fairnymph's post above...as well as a plethora of other posts in this 3 pages of a thread.
I use meth about 2 times a month, if that... it isnt really that easy to get where I am from, nor do I have the money to sustain a habit. If I had the resources, I may be a little more worried about addiction. But I too, have NO urge to do more meth after finishing my bag and comming down. I can even refrain from opening another bag if I have finished one, have been up for a while, and have nothing left that I really have to do. With coke, when I'm starting to come down--if there is any possible way to do more, I will do whatever it takes...I dont feel this way about meth at all. My usage HAS been copious at times, and I've been on plenty of binges, but they never last more than 2 nights and 2 days...the one time I was up for 4 days, I thought I would die and didnt touch the shit for about 2 months. Once the 2 days have passed, I'm ready to sleep (even if I have 6 bags...I wont touch them for at least a week or so) for at least the next 15 hours. It is possible to use meth moderately, sparingly even...but it isnt easy. Most people are not able to do it, I find that my lack of resources helps my ability (as well as responsibilities)...
Meth is deffinately one of the most addictive drugs I've ever tried. I personally, have never touched heroin (because I know I'd like it too much), but think that, crack, and coke (both of which leave me feeling completely submissive) all need to be approached with much caution. They all have the ability to make you sell your soul.
I use meth about 2 times a month, if that... it isnt really that easy to get where I am from, nor do I have the money to sustain a habit. If I had the resources, I may be a little more worried about addiction. But I too, have NO urge to do more meth after finishing my bag and comming down. I can even refrain from opening another bag if I have finished one, have been up for a while, and have nothing left that I really have to do. With coke, when I'm starting to come down--if there is any possible way to do more, I will do whatever it takes...I dont feel this way about meth at all. My usage HAS been copious at times, and I've been on plenty of binges, but they never last more than 2 nights and 2 days...the one time I was up for 4 days, I thought I would die and didnt touch the shit for about 2 months. Once the 2 days have passed, I'm ready to sleep (even if I have 6 bags...I wont touch them for at least a week or so) for at least the next 15 hours. It is possible to use meth moderately, sparingly even...but it isnt easy. Most people are not able to do it, I find that my lack of resources helps my ability (as well as responsibilities)...
Meth is deffinately one of the most addictive drugs I've ever tried. I personally, have never touched heroin (because I know I'd like it too much), but think that, crack, and coke (both of which leave me feeling completely submissive) all need to be approached with much caution. They all have the ability to make you sell your soul.
BellababE
Bluelighter
mmm meth...i do love to smoke it...my friend blows our own pipes! But the main problem is that my fiance doesnt like me to. period. sad, sad.
I love the rush, and its a great feeling to get all the stuff accomplished that i do when i am on speed.
I love the rush, and its a great feeling to get all the stuff accomplished that i do when i am on speed.
When I use meth its mainly to increase my productivity. If I can pick up some glass around exam time I'll be happy. I'm a typical fiend though, I'll stay up for about 30 hours as soon as I get it. It helps me keep my bodyfat low and I usually work out harder at the gym. When I tweak though its hard for me to eat solid food, I'll usually just drink protein shakes and whatnot. As far as addiction I haven't had any problems. A gram will last me a week or so. I usually snort it for the rush, but I definitely enjoy taking it orally since the whole experience you can feel yourself slowly coming up. Thats my two cents.
BAM!
BAM!
jerzeezfinest
Bluelight Crew
a gram lasts you only a week? if its quality glass, and you are using it for "productivity reasons" then it should last you FAR more than a week. a gram will last me a month (using it to party!!).
PhreeX
Bluelight Crew
I would say that when used for work, a gram of good "glass" would last around a week, maybe a little less, maybe a little more ... but to each his own, YMMV!
jerzeezfinest
Bluelight Crew
PhreeX, in your opinion... if someone is snorting their meth and then saying that its strictly for productivity reasons (i'm not really talking about this kid, more or less in general), its more of a justification?
i think that if you are using it for productivity reasons, you'd want to take it orally so as not to be distracted by it, but enhanced. snorting good glass gives me wayy too much of a rush, and i'm unable to keep my mind on one thing--I'll start something, and then jump around and do something else. if I was to take it orally, I'd be much more productive.
Also, using it orally would really keep the dosage to a minimum (which would be beneficial to your purpose, because you're trying to MAKE money, not spend it) because you'd only need one dose to get you through the day, as with snorting it, you'd neeed several--probably doing more overall...
your thoughts?
i think that if you are using it for productivity reasons, you'd want to take it orally so as not to be distracted by it, but enhanced. snorting good glass gives me wayy too much of a rush, and i'm unable to keep my mind on one thing--I'll start something, and then jump around and do something else. if I was to take it orally, I'd be much more productive.
Also, using it orally would really keep the dosage to a minimum (which would be beneficial to your purpose, because you're trying to MAKE money, not spend it) because you'd only need one dose to get you through the day, as with snorting it, you'd neeed several--probably doing more overall...
your thoughts?
PhreeX
Bluelight Crew
I personally find that for work, orally is the way to go - start your day with a good sized bump in your morning coffee, and you should have that nice wave of energy for the day - if you snort you will get more of a "spike" in the energy level, where you do the line/bump/whatever, peak, tweak, then crash (all over the period of a few hours) .. you will come up, being as productive as a Mexican on a grape farm, then you might find yourself with a little too much energy, you taper off, in turn returning to being that productive worker again, but you will then crash and either want to do more meth or go home .. the oral route will have you comming up gradually, high with an equyal amount of speed and be good for the day - remember, when you use a drug as a tool you are NOT trying to "ger high", you are trying to take advantage of the drugs effects - much like medicine .. but is it just a false justification to say you're railing gaggers every hour for "work purposes only" - probably, then again, some people work better when "high on tweak" versus being "on a clean wave of energy and chemical motivation" ..
If you ask my opinion - I think less is more in terms of work - I go the oral route and only do enough to get me to the point I am flying high, but YMMV!
If you ask my opinion - I think less is more in terms of work - I go the oral route and only do enough to get me to the point I am flying high, but YMMV!