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Heroin first time

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yeah best of luck. Its not a fun life.

You can quickly become a whole different person.

Take Care.
 
verso said:
Heroin killed my father, and raped my mother!

No, but seriously, heroin is no joke. (Excuse that first joke.)
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Hahahahahaha, so fucked up but that's hilarious. For your sake, I hope you can control yourself. It WILL spiral out of control and before you know it you're dependent.. I NEVER thought I'd be an addict but here I am, tried and true.
 
i understand

So I'm wondering how the first time went? I know the post was months ago. Damn I need an update! I was on it a while..would prolli go back if it was right here in front of me..dosage..shit I just figure take half a balloon. Half a 20..I dont know what she had in front of her. I mean thats how I started off. With my bf too go figure. Does anyone buy less than a 20?
 
I would recommend you snowball it. At least that way the speed, or crack or cocaine will help to keep you alive if the heroin is too strong and puts you 'over'.
Interestingly I've seen people 'brought back' from a OD by their friend injecting them with coke or blowing crack smoke up their nose. It 'kick starts' the heart. I wouldnt want to rely on it as an absolute thing though, but it can be useful to know.

Also, I didnt find heroin that addictive. I was more addicted to crack and to IV use of that and heroin. I was addicted from my first crack pipe but it took me 3 years to get addicted to heroin. I think I got more addicted to the intense and instant rush of injecting drugs than to the actual heroin itself.

Goodluck. And also, believe it yourself, I know a few people who just use once in a while, it is possible to do. Addiction to opiates takes along time to kick in the first time round, but once you've been addicted it kicks back in within a day or two. So please be careful and dont use more than once or twice a week and you should be ok. Or if you do go on a binge then dont assume that you have given yourself a physical habit. chances are that you will 'get away with it' for the first couple of binges. Just try to stop as soon as you can and give yourself a break for at least a few days before you use again (prefereably a week or 5 days).
I hope that helps you in terms of pratical advice.

All this mg's and ml's stuff that everyone is coming out with is totally dependant on the quality of the gear your using. I would trust your boyfriend. And I would also have an upper on stand by to either bang up if you think your going over or to snowball with.

GOODLUCK
 
Ok I read back and realized that you did do it. You know what's funny..is that I see that a lot of ppl on here are dogging on you for going straight from weed to Heroin. I went from weed to Coke. There is no route to go to prepare you for heroin. It makes sense if it's something that you've watched someone your close to do for a while that it would be the next thing you did. I mean..weed couldnt prepare me for anything other than maybe shrooms...and coke cant prepare you for anything other than maybe meth. I used to take a lot of vicodin..that would be the only thing comparable to dope to be honest. But um I didnt take it so that it could prepare me for dope! People on here are just dumb. Yes they are looking out for your safety..im sure most havent done it though. And yeah..they tellin u to do it other ways..sure maybe..if thats what you want.

My bestie actually introduced me to it first. She slammed it and I snorted it..only because I was too scared at that point for iv and she wouldnt help me do it! So yeah naturally when I found the opportunity to do it..and it was iv..i was nervous and let my bf do it for me. Mind you he was a paramedic..but alas.

Oh and u said it wasnt great. Maybe it was bunk stuff? I dont know..it's hard to sit here and tell you that it's not going to be something that u will truely get addicted to.

Also ppl probably look at us who have done it condoning it..as crazy. I have lived the nightmare. One night I did some shit..and felt diff than normal. I did my normal dose too..guess it was better shit this time around..well I got this diff feeling that is hard to explain..shit got loud..like if u are shootin white (dont do that please). well next thing u know i was soaking wet..my bf performed cpr..and threw me in the shower..I survived my only O.D.

Crazy thing is..I was doing it a day later. So yeah shits crazy...but I know that your gonna do it again..cant tell u not to..wish i was there with ya chick. One thing u should never do is shoot white. That's so much worse. Anyways just be careful. Be clean. U know what to do. And to all ya haters..just thank em..one day we'll be one of em.
 
Richy-Revolt said:
I would recommend you snowball it. At least that way the speed, or crack or cocaine will help to keep you alive if the heroin is too strong and puts you 'over'.
Interestingly I've seen people 'brought back' from a OD by their friend injecting them with coke or blowing crack smoke up their nose. It 'kick starts' the heart. I wouldnt want to rely on it as an absolute thing though, but it can be useful to know.

Also, I didnt find heroin that addictive. I was more addicted to crack and to IV use of that and heroin. I was addicted from my first crack pipe but it took me 3 years to get addicted to heroin. I think I got more addicted to the intense and instant rush of injecting drugs than to the actual heroin itself.

Goodluck. And also, believe it yourself, I know a few people who just use once in a while, it is possible to do. Addiction to opiates takes along time to kick in the first time round, but once you've been addicted it kicks back in within a day or two. So please be careful and dont use more than once or twice a week and you should be ok. Or if you do go on a binge then dont assume that you have given yourself a physical habit. chances are that you will 'get away with it' for the first couple of binges. Just try to stop as soon as you can and give yourself a break for at least a few days before you use again (prefereably a week or 5 days).
I hope that helps you in terms of pratical advice.

All this mg's and ml's stuff that everyone is coming out with is totally dependant on the quality of the gear your using. I would trust your boyfriend. And I would also have an upper on stand by to either bang up if you think your going over or to snowball with.

GOODLUCK
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Absolutely terrible advice. Please do not listen to a word of this.
 
verso said:
Heroin killed my father, and raped my mother!

No, but seriously, heroin is no joke. (Excuse that first joke.)

I think that we're all kind of missing the point here. No one here should be an advocate for any drug, really. The bottom line is that making the decision to try any substance is a very personal one and not something that you should encourage or discourage a person from making one way or the other. I've thought long and hard about this, and honestly, all that you can really do is give an individual all the information at your disposal or at least point him or her in the right direction; and please, try to give that individual solid information, not your thoughts, maybes, and well-I-knew-about-this-one-guy-one-time-who...

It's unbelievable to me just how many people here believe that heroin's addictive potential is astronomically higher than alcohol's. It's not, and in fact it's very much comparable to alcohol's, so I'm not exactly sure why we're arguing to aggressively against heroin when many of us here would just as quickly hand a friend a beer without thinking much of it. It's just as likely that your friend will become an alcoholic, and alcoholism isn't none prettier, folks.
Now, I know what you're thinking, and here's where you have to stop yourself... "but I knew this one guy who died from an overd-" UH-UH-UH! NO! Don't you say it! Because if you can't think of a friend or relative who has drank himself or herself to death, then you're not thinking hard enough.

Look, heroin is not the devil. Like most substances, it's dangerous. And like making the decision to try any substance really, all of the different outcomes, both good and bad, are infinitely possible. You'll never be guaranteed one or the other, and so it's a real gamble. I've known people to have tried heroin once, thrown up, and never touched the shit again. (It should be noted that I've also known people to have the same experience with alcohol -- got drunk, threw up, never touched it again.) I've also known people to have become chippers, junkies, and whatever else...

I'm not sure where this idea came from that "you try it once and that's it; kiss your wife and kids goodbye, because your beautiful, bright and shiny life before is over and your new, sleeping-on-park-benches, addict life has just begun!" 8)
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In some ways ur right about that, but the fact is no one intrveinously injects alcohol the first time they use it. If they did, they would likely end up dead. And actually, saying alcohol is no more addictive, is that true? I doubt it. How many people do we all know who drink responsibly, or even irresponsibly, all of their lives without becoming addicted? Or if they are 'addicted' its not a physical thing but they may feel the need to get smashed every friday and saturday. Relative to the number of users, there are very few full blown alcoholics. The same is most definitely not true of H. How many gear heads do u knopw who have used for years who arent physically addicted. I dont know a single one. Ive been an H addict for 7 years, and wish I'd had someone strong enough who cared about me to stop me getting into it, cos Im not sure Ill ever get out of it. I dont use as much nowadays, being on 80ml daily meth, but thats not a good lifestyle choice either. I've pretty much lost most interest in life now, dont like going out like I used to or socialising, dont wanna buy anything, all I wanna do is watch tv. Music doesnt even sound the same any more, I've just lost the ability to find pleasure in anything. Oh I do like sleeping though! And my saviour, I still go to work, but lifes worth so much more, I think, so everyone says!
 
verso said:
Heroin killed my father, and raped my mother!

No, but seriously, heroin is no joke. (Excuse that first joke.)

I think that we're all kind of missing the point here. No one here should be an advocate for any drug, really. The bottom line is that making the decision to try any substance is a very personal one and not something that you should encourage or discourage a person from making one way or the other. I've thought long and hard about this, and honestly, all that you can really do is give an individual all the information at your disposal or at least point him or her in the right direction; and please, try to give that individual solid information, not your thoughts, maybes, and well-I-knew-about-this-one-guy-one-time-who...

It's unbelievable to me just how many people here believe that heroin's addictive potential is astronomically higher than alcohol's. It's not, and in fact it's very much comparable to alcohol's, so I'm not exactly sure why we're arguing to aggressively against heroin when many of us here would just as quickly hand a friend a beer without thinking much of it. It's just as likely that your friend will become an alcoholic, and alcoholism isn't none prettier, folks.

Now, I know what you're thinking, and here's where you have to stop yourself... "but I knew this one guy who died from an overd-" UH-UH-UH! NO! Don't you say it! Because if you can't think of a friend or relative who has drank himself or herself to death, then you're not thinking hard enough.

Look, heroin is not the devil. Like most substances, it's dangerous. And like making the decision to try any substance really, all of the different outcomes, both good and bad, are infinitely possible. You'll never be guaranteed one or the other, and so it's a real gamble. I've known people to have tried heroin once, thrown up, and never touched the shit again. (It should be noted that I've also known people to have the same experience with alcohol -- got drunk, threw up, never touched it again.) I've also known people to have become chippers, junkies, and whatever else...

I'm not sure where this idea came from that "you try it once and that's it; kiss your wife and kids goodbye, because your beautiful, bright and shiny life before is over and your new, sleeping-on-park-benches, addict life has just begun!" 8)
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i definately think your wrong here mate.

Firstly alchohol is the most commonly used drug, its socially acceptable and is readily available. What percentage of people use alchohol and it turns into the most important thing in there life? i would suggest not that many when you take into consideration the amount of people who use it regularly globally. Also with alchohol theres little little chance of contracting a disease or dying instantly with one administration of the drug!

Now look at heroin what percentage of people who use it end up having some sort of problem with it. You can use the drug once and die, you can use the drug once and contract at least two lifelong, terminal and possibly fatal diseases. with one use. You cannot do this with alchohol. At least with alchohol it takes some time to kill you, just to cover myself obvioulsy if you sit and drink 5 bottles of absynthe you would die, but at least your body warns you all through the administration that your getting yourself into serious problems!

they both have thre own problems but to compare the two and say there the same doesnt seem right. Alchohol is used so much more than heroin and i bet there are probably still mor deaths and serious addictions cause by heroin.

i would be interested to actually see the numbers

S
 
brooklynn85 said:
So I'm wondering how the first time went? I know the post was months ago. Damn I need an update! I was on it a while..would prolli go back if it was right here in front of me..dosage..shit I just figure take half a balloon. Half a 20..I dont know what she had in front of her. I mean thats how I started off. With my bf too go figure. Does anyone buy less than a 20?
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hey hey. sorry i haven't updated in quite some time.. i did do it, like i said before.. tonight is my third time.. still doing a small amount. the second time was kinda ehh.. i threw up a lot. however, this time i feel better. I still have yet to have a rush... and it's kind of annoying, but i'm not addicted. It's been kind of like a weekend here or there.. and it's only been three times total.. any suggestions to how i can actually get a rush? thank you all. <3
 
If you are not getting a rush you are not iving enough. And no I dont buy less than a 20. I dont risk a felony for fuckin 1 bag lol.

I spend a minimum of 80..thats what works for me. Plus it costs my 8.50 to cop (subways and shit).. so I try and cop all at once. Also..twhen the fires out I dont wanna get 2 bags then go back and its all gone.. I buydat shit up!!

@@Richy-Revolt you are dumb tellin her to do speed balsl and shit
 
Jackie Chan said:
You do realize if you'd just smoked some off foil you would have had a much more enjoyable experience from it?
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tuttut. not true.
when I first did heroin, I smoked it, a lot over maybe 2days? and every time I was as sick (previous to heroin I had done valliums & every other rec drug in vast quantities) but the moment I iv'd that shit, it was, incredible. No ill feeling, nothing, but I hate to say it, my bubble.
Someone earlier asked "would you ever bang H again" ...Yes. I would. In a heartbeat second. But maybe thats why I haven't, if that makes sense?
You know how good it is so you have to be stronger & say not again, other wise it'll be 'just one last time, one more time, tomorrow...'
I know I can be stronger now & say never again, than try & be strong & go through the rattles - & I've seen many try & fail :(

as for Hayley, I was were you are.
& that's all I can say, because unfortunately everyone's life & path is different.
You gotta do what you gotta do. Just be careful doing it.
 
Try a little more next time.
I dont know. I know some people who say their first rush was the first time, some say it takes a few time, and then when you finally get your (basically one time) rush, you keep going for it even though youll never catch up to it again.
I havent got to IV H sadly, stupid guy I was talking with wants me to buy out state, Im not trusting him with my money when he doesnt even know exactly the product, he hooks people up but he doesnt do H, so he doesnt know if I get my moneys worth or it ifs good, so I said screw him, lol. Anyway, snorting.....I had to do it over the weekend to get the little bit of rush/chill from it. it wasnt a one time thing.

P.S. IM GLAD YOUR STILL ALIVE! Are you learning more of what to do and correctly? :)
 
First time i snorted and smoked it i felt minimal effects (black tar). When i was injected for the first time, it was the second biggest rush i have EVER felt in my life my knees went weak and felt like i was cumming!!!
 
Soccertrendy said:
i would be interested to actually see the numbers
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For those of you asking for numbers, percentages of those who become addicted/physicaly dependent...

It's ~ 15% alcohol and ~ 23% heroin, so it's enough to say that heroin is, in fact, more addictive... but not nearly as much as some of you are thinking. It's entirey comparable, in my opinion.

EDIT: And I'll dig up the actual research article when I get a moment. I'm at work right now...

ANOTHER EDIT: http://reason.com/archives/2003/06/01/h/singlepage
 
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I have to say I'm a little effing freaked out that in five whole pages of posts of advice and opinions, there have only been two mentions of having naloxone (narcan) with you!

hayleyescape- do you have narcan, which as mentioned briefly before, is the overdose antidote? No need to live in fear, but not having a tolerance makes you more vulnerable to purity fluctuations. Drug OD is the #1 cause of accidental death in the country- mistakes happen. If you are in the US, there's a OD prevention program locator at this website that will let you know the closest program where you can get free narcan and shown how/when to use it. If there's no place close to you or you're not in the US, let me know and we'll figure it out.

More important than doing heroin or not or what ROA you choose is that you stay alive! :D
 
mareseatoats said:
I honestly don't think you know what you are getting yourself into. Or perhaps you are INTO it already...
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There was absolutely no reason to raise this post from the dead.. If you read it, you would have seen that she did infact IV dope three times, maybe even more since the lsat time she posted..

It seems unlikely she is going to come back on here to post, but OP if you want to post an update please private message me and I will re-open the thread.

/inb4close..

..closed.
 
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