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First Time Opiate Use

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phantim said:
I thank you all for your advice and your warnings of addiction and I'm not planning to go more than once after I get that first real opiate high, but if i do I'll make sure to take at least a week if not 2 or more between trips.

the problem I'm having is that everyone keeps saying like 15-20 or 20-25 mgs of hydro and stuff. I started on 45 and didn't really feel anything other than like a light warm buzz on that.

Is there some reason for that. I can't have a tolerance on my first time. O r could i just be naturally tolerant for opiates.

Also what's the difference in hydro and Oxy is Oxy way stronger or something .

Please advise on dosages regarding what I have just told you.

And please list your experiences with different opiates and ROA's. I am interested in what the different drugs and ROA's feel like to you and your personal favorites.

Thank you
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Did you take 45mg's of hydro in a single dose?

Im not too sure what dose of hydro is good for a beginner, I would think it would be close to the same amount of oxy, but dont know for sure. Oxy is more potent, but Im not sure how much more potent. I still think 15-20mg's of oxy is good for someone with no tolerance.

I would take a few days off if I were you before trying again. If you keep using daily trying to get that first great high you could be on the road to addiction.

Someone else may be able to help you on a single hydro dose for you to try, but take a couple days off. You probably need to be more clear on what you have tried or what your tolerance may be.

When you say "then earlier today i tried 48.25 and got a little buzz," Im not sure what you mean. 48.25mg's of something? I dont know what could equal out to that amount. And did you take that dose in a single use? That will help people trying to give you advice.
 
my bad i added an extra 7. it was 41.25 of hydrocodone at one time now that i do it with a calculator. (5.5 pills). and I'll definitely wait awhile and think about this before i try it again. thanks
 
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Nikolai said:
Did you take 45mg's of hydro in a single dose?

Im not too sure what dose of hydro is good for a beginner, I would think it would be close to the same amount of oxy, but dont know for sure. Oxy is more potent, but Im not sure how much more potent. I still think 15-20mg's of oxy is good for someone with no tolerance.

I would take a few days off if I were you before trying again. If you keep using daily trying to get that first great high you could be on the road to addiction.

Someone else may be able to help you on a single hydro dose for you to try, but take a couple days off. You probably need to be more clear on what you have tried or what your tolerance may be.

When you say "then earlier today i tried 48.25 and got a little buzz," Im not sure what you mean. 48.25mg's of something? I dont know what could equal out to that amount. And did you take that dose in a single use? That will help people trying to give you advice.
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A good starting hydro dose, is around 20mg with no tolerance. For oxy, it's more like 10mg, I was able to get faded as hell off of 1 perc 10 back in the day; now it won't old me for shit. :( Oh those days....

48mg should have gotten you toasty. You may have indeed been high, but it might not have been what you were expecting, therefore you think it didnt work. Opiates are a wonderful high when achieved. I know you weight 200+ pounds, but still with no tolerance what so ever, you should have had a good buzz.

Did you dose that all at once, or was it over the course of X hours? We need more info on how you dosed and over what time frame it was done. With that info, we'll be able to help you much more.

I suggest waiting a few days before you try again. It's very easy to get caught up in them and go down a very very dark road. Stay safe!
 
I got a background buzz off them this last time. like it was there and i was sorta warm and tingly but i remember thinking "this is what all the hype is about?", just cause it didn't feel like i thought it would.I could still walk around and drive and stuff.

But you may be right from all the talk I've heard it was supposed to be this all encompassing nirvana-like blissful high, but everyone i knew was doing H and like Oxy 80's so that's probably why.
 
maybe you just aren't that receptive to hydrocodone. i've never really subjectively felt much of anything from hydro. even before i had any tolerance at all, i could take like 7 or 8 of the 10/325 norcos and never even really catch a buzz. after i started doing oxy every day, i would sometimes take hydro if i couldn't find anything else, but then it was more out of fear of not being on opiates or whatever, and i still don't think i ever really felt much besides mild relief.

EDIT:: that's not to say you should go pound a handful of these things. i'm just saying maybe your body doesn't receive them the same way as other people or something.
 
25 to 30 mgs of oxy plus a joint.

make your stay with opes short and quick or you'll be shooting in 7 years.
 
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But you may be right from all the talk I've heard it was supposed to be this all encompassing nirvana-like blissful high, but everyone i knew was doing H and like Oxy 80's so that's probably why.
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i have snorted morphine and oxy a lot, lots of time in between doses, and let me tell you i still fiend for the high i used to get off of 10mg vicodin 3 yrs ago. really that shit got me god-like euphoria. and poppin a roll with some oxy still doesnt quite feel as good. love your low tolerance

take 30mg hydro and snort 10 mg in an hour. that should hit the dome proper
 
^ AGREED. Snorting anything without the pure opiate is just bullshit. I fucked around the other day and snorted a Percocet 10/625 and after I broke it down I just kinda cried a little inside. 30 minutes later after I got through snorting all 10 tons of power I just decided to swallow the other one :)

Binders, fillers, and shit like that suck when it comes to trying to snort opiates. Just stay away from that route!
 
Being used to things like the Meth & xanax ... I can't say that I'd be surprised that you didn't feel anything real great from just hydrocodone.

Maybe that's it ... you were expecting something more than what you got?
 
it took me a couple times of using opiates (oxy to be specific) to really start "feeling it". Now im addicted and can't get my mind off of them. I'm not gonna tell you to not try them, but be careful.
 
Try to not do opiates in general. They fuck your life up I have had the shittiest past two weeks of my life and I'm off the fucking things, most of the time, if you want a good first time dose......

I am 6'3 170 fair skin ... anyways... look for some Norcos or Endocets these both of H-codone and O-codone.. with very little apap. Try the Endos if you can get them, my first opiate dose was 45 mg of endos and I never stoppped ever. But if you have the self control keep on ridin' that train brother. Try around 15-30mg to get used to it then just don't use all the time.

I think they make a Roxy (O-codone) 10mg and 5mg dont they? It's been a while since I've wanted anything that little but if they do try and grab those or a 30 roxy or 40 oc and break it into pieces and snort those if you are looking for the most intense and best high.

PACE YOURSELF.
 
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idk i'm gonna wait awhile cause i had to cancel my appt. Might try them again might not. i liked the warmth and the tingly fuzzy feeling, but it seems like too expensive of a deal for such a small high. I think I'll try Oxy's but this just doesn't seem like my deal.

Nothing really compares to crystal once you've had it, it's like the best damn feeling in the world. but to quote someone else on these forums who i unfortunately can't remember. "Crystal will love you with open arms and give you everything in the world, until she sends Shadow People to rip your throat out"

It's so good I can't even describe it. I mean I've had some of the best times in my life hanging with her, but also some of the worst.
 
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taking like 50mg of hydrocodone in my opinion feels just like taking 50mg of oxy, only thing is the oxycontin lasts longer
 
phantim said:
idk i'm gonna wait awhile cause i had to cancel my appt. Might try them again might not. i liked the warmth and the tingly fuzzy feeling, but it seems like too expensive of a deal for such a small high. I think I'll try Oxy's but this just doesn't seem like my deal.

Nothing really compares to crystal once you've had it, it's like the best damn feeling in the world. but to quote someone else on these forums who i unfortunately can't remember. "Crystal will love you with open arms and give you everything in the world, until she sends Shadow People to rip your throat out"

It's so good I can't even describe it. I mean I've had some of the best times in my life hanging with her, but also some of the worst.

This is a warning to everyone out there. You'll love it, no doubts I Fucking Guarantee it. But you have got to handle your shit don't lose yourself in it, you can run yourself to death and not even realize it till you drop. One night will turn into two, then three, then a week, two weeks a month, and You will never realize you haven't slept or ate.

I've done three days at a pop multiple times and never realized till I see a commercial on TV for food and I think to myself "When was the last time I ate..." Holy Shit! A week has gone by since I ate or slept and then you realize you don't care. It will absorb you if you don't handle your shit.

Trust me. Hallucinations are fun for the first day or two, and in the daylight you're usually okay. But come night every shadow is turning into something, and everyone is out to get you. You grab you're last Ball and run out into the woods til you're sure no one's following you, but wait... That tree is actually DEA in Camo so is that rock oh shit, then you finally pass out in your car or house cause it's like" If they're gonna get me I'm just gonna wait at the house for them Fuck This! and you lay down or sit down and you're out before you realize, just to wake up the next day and realize, they were just rocks and trees.

I don't know why I went off like that cause I'm actually Sober. But that shit is serious ask any tweaker and they will all have stories like that.
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I've done real high quality crystal both snorting and IV and I can tell you that nothing really compares to IV heroin as far as well known recreational drugs go. Best feeling in the world without a doubt in my mind which is why there are so many damn opiate addicts nowadays and why prescription drugs like vicodin have become the new easy and preferable high for teenagers these days (besides good ole mary jane of course which will always be the most commonly used). However, it really comes down to personal preference, but I say don't count out opiates until you've had a proper dose to feel their complete effects man. Pure heavenly bliss...without the paranoia. And the comedown isn't half as bad as meth until you start having withdrawal symptoms. So stick to recreational use or I suggest don't touch them at all because it's extremely hard not to like them and become addicted if you have that kind of personality. I haven't really heard of anyone that doesn't like the opiate feeling, while on the other hand I know a bunch of people that don't like the meth high for certain reasons, most of which you described above.

Remember, its all personal preference in the end.
My 2 cent =D
 
phantim said:
Nothing really compares to crystal once you've had it, it's like the best damn feeling in the world. but to quote someone else on these forums who i unfortunately can't remember. "Crystal will love you with open arms and give you everything in the world, until she sends Shadow People to rip your throat out"
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You know, you could say that about heroin as well (or any other opioid for that matter).
 
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