Okay so, I've been an average opiate for about 5 years now (roxys, hydros, vics, percs etc.) I have also been snorting heroin about once every month or two for the past 6-8 months. I have IV'd it one time and had a friend do it for me. I might add that it didn't do anything because 20 minutes before hand I snorted a bump. This will be my first time IVing it by myself. I know the potency and how much I have to bump to get high. I need helpful information on how to do this correctly so I don't OD or anything like that. Any information will be greatly helpful.
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first time banging h on my own
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OxyDillyKing
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Make sure you are absolutely confident about how much your are doing. you might want to try doing it with a friend present in case of emergency, cuz it doesnt seem like your have much of an opiate tolerance. i dont think what you shoot before was very good or even dope, cuz regardless of how much youve snorted, the first time you inject, its gonna blow you away even if its mediocre dope. make sure you push the shot in very, very slowly. you should even take up to like 45 seconds pushing it in. if you start to feel that its hitting you too hard, stop feeding it into your vein and wait. if you choose to do it by yourself, have 911 dial in your phone and press send and try to say as much as you can about your location if you feel yourself falling out. use sterile water. if you cant find sterile water used distilled water, you can buy it at the store. always inject with needle pointing towards your torso, always have the needle hole facing upward to minimize vein damage. make sure you filter your dope with a cotton and not a cigarette filter, and use about 60 units of water, this will aid you in pushing the shot in slowly. sver, very slowly. if you starting to feel super light headed beyond just the high, stop IMMEDIATEly! the act of injection itself is not inherently dangerous, the danger is gauging the dose. later you can afford to be a little more confident, but even though you know how snorting a certain dose affects you, yo u have no idea how an IV dose will. be careful. there are lots of safe injection guides on internet read one of them too
thank you
I know there are no safe guidelines and my friend who shot me up was pretty experienced. But yeah, the dope we had that nighthad a lot of cut in it. My opiate tolerance as far as with roxys and oc's is pretty high but not my tolerance for dope. The dope I have now is of a lot better quality. I know to use cotton and not cigarette filters. I'm just wondering how many cc's I should try for this. I shot up a roxy one time and fell the fuck out but I think that was just anxiety from never have IVing before. But ill start slot. The time I shot the weak dope I did get pale and extremely clammy but once again I wasn't comfortable and I was anxious. Maybe I should stick to bumping it but I would really like to feel the experience of banging it. But I just don't want OD ya know?
I know there are no safe guidelines and my friend who shot me up was pretty experienced. But yeah, the dope we had that nighthad a lot of cut in it. My opiate tolerance as far as with roxys and oc's is pretty high but not my tolerance for dope. The dope I have now is of a lot better quality. I know to use cotton and not cigarette filters. I'm just wondering how many cc's I should try for this. I shot up a roxy one time and fell the fuck out but I think that was just anxiety from never have IVing before. But ill start slot. The time I shot the weak dope I did get pale and extremely clammy but once again I wasn't comfortable and I was anxious. Maybe I should stick to bumping it but I would really like to feel the experience of banging it. But I just don't want OD ya know?
OxyDillyKing
Bluelighter
yea it would be better just to keep snorting. if you feel like you really need to get off just snort maybe 20% more than you usually do to get a nice high, if it satisfies you, itll be worth not getting into shooting. id go with 60 cc of water, and push it in over the course of abot 40 seconds cuz its your first time. whatever you thought you were gonna do the first time, only use 70% as much.
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I would try smoking it but I've heard that it is horrible for your lungs. Plus I thought you could only smoke black tar? I have one more question for oxy? If I usually snort a good sized bump, like somewhat bigger than a match head, maybe two match heads. How much should I put in the 60 cc's of water to shoot. Does it take less or more when shooting it?
I would try smoking it but I've heard that it is horrible for your lungs. Plus I thought you could only smoke black tar? I have one more question for oxy? If I usually snort a good sized bump, like somewhat bigger than a match head, maybe two match heads. How much should I put in the 60 cc's of water to shoot. Does it take less or more when shooting it?
OxyDillyKing
Bluelighter
i takes much less. i would only shoot half of what you usually snort. if your snort a match head, shoot half a match head. when you IV something, you are getting 100% of the drug into your system, and its hitting instantly. put it to you this way, if a newb to opiates took 20mg of oxy, they would get a nice little buz from it. if they injected it, they would get a super crazy high. so if you are set on IVing, i would shoot about 40% of the amount you usually sniff. it might not seem like much, but that much smaller amount taken IV will get you higher than what you normally snort.
leigh12
Bluelighter
lol first time i done it alone it took me ages to man up n just jab it in (hate needles), iv just had other ppl do it for me in the passed
Yeah, I've been working up to it. I've never minded shots, even as a kid I enjoyed having my blood taken. Ill be sure to do a little less than half though. I'm sure ill be fine. And my friend will be with me. He only bumps it but I'm going to give banging a try. People have told me that the high is amazing. @oxyking: should I mixx the 60 cc of water and the dope in a spoon and heat it up some. Or should I use the top syringe cap (the bigger white one) to mix it in. The expert that shot me up usually uses the cap but I wanted to get your opinion on it. I'm just trying to make sure I do everything correctly this first time. Don't mean to bother you with all these questions haha. And ill post how it goes on the thread tomorrow night, that's when I'm doing it so I won't be alone.
OxyDillyKing
Bluelighter
Your tolerance will not go up from shooting one time, but your expectations will. you will always remember the feeling of the rush and snorting will not seem as great to you anymore, i mean youll still get ripped, but youll have that rush feeling in the back of your head.
Im not sure what kind of dope you have, and im not familiar with how to prepare tar.
Im familiar with how to prepare scramble dope that comes in gel caps from baltimore, and how to prepare the powdery raw dope that comes in bags thats all over the east coast.
if its the raw dope you dont need to cook it. just dissolve in 60cc of water and filter with a cotton.
on the off chance you have scrambled gel caps of dope from baltimore, dissolve in water, heat slightly til it just starts the flicker up from from boiling, then draw up thru a cotton. use a qtip or cotton ball for your cotton. roll it fairly tight, about half the size of a pea.
Im not sure what kind of dope you have, and im not familiar with how to prepare tar.
Im familiar with how to prepare scramble dope that comes in gel caps from baltimore, and how to prepare the powdery raw dope that comes in bags thats all over the east coast.
if its the raw dope you dont need to cook it. just dissolve in 60cc of water and filter with a cotton.
on the off chance you have scrambled gel caps of dope from baltimore, dissolve in water, heat slightly til it just starts the flicker up from from boiling, then draw up thru a cotton. use a qtip or cotton ball for your cotton. roll it fairly tight, about half the size of a pea.
DON'T DO IT ALONE. SIMPLE HARM REDUCTION. ALWAYS DO DOPE WITH A PARTNER. ON OVERDOSE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE LETHAL! IF YOU PASS OUT THEY CAN HELP YOU!
That's about all I have to offer as far as advice goes. Needles will be a gift and a curse my friend.
You need to bang less dope to get off, but tolerance builds a HELL of a lot faster.
I can't imagine how much dope I would have had to snort when I was doing 20+ bags a day!
That's about all I have to offer as far as advice goes. Needles will be a gift and a curse my friend.
You need to bang less dope to get off, but tolerance builds a HELL of a lot faster.
I can't imagine how much dope I would have had to snort when I was doing 20+ bags a day!
truedirtyjerzguy
Bluelighter
I would say if u compared the two I normal bag of powdered dope is at least 120 mg of oxys, unless its cut with fentanyl, then id say more like 180 mgs this is just my guess though
Yeah, we've got raw on the east coast. I stay in atlanta and my shit is either powdered or rocked up. My friend from maryland however brought a couple black tops down a few months back (viles the dope comes in) and I must say the quality was not as good. At least what I tried. But yeah, I will just dissolve it, and no worries, I will not be alone when I do this and I'm starting with a avery small amount. My roomate had an un-used rig I can use but I'm still cautious about that. Even though I know her very well (she's a very clean person and not one to share needles) however if I wanted to be on the safe side should I go to cvs and try and get them some how? If so what excuse should I use? And the thing is, my mom actually is a diabetic (she uses an insulin pump now however instead of shots)
OxyDillyKing
Bluelighter
im not sure about your state but in mine you can buy needles over the counter. they dont even ask questions here.
one time a nosy pharmacist asked me what i need them for ( even if i told her to fuck off, she still wouldve had to sell to me under my states laws, but its best to be diplomatic ). i had my answer ready. i told her i use Humalog insulin. thats the only time ive ever even been question. where i live its like 2 bucks for 10 fresh syringes, and maybe 10-12 dollars for 100. this is definitely something you want to invest in.
one time a nosy pharmacist asked me what i need them for ( even if i told her to fuck off, she still wouldve had to sell to me under my states laws, but its best to be diplomatic ). i had my answer ready. i told her i use Humalog insulin. thats the only time ive ever even been question. where i live its like 2 bucks for 10 fresh syringes, and maybe 10-12 dollars for 100. this is definitely something you want to invest in.
Jerzguy - please don't post inaccurate information on here. A lot of people use the web to search for this information and wrong information in regards to safe opiate dosing can be fatal if the person is BANGING H ON THEIR OWN.
The truth is you never know how much is in a bag of H. I have been clean before for 7 months straight and did not use a single drug in that time period. Before my sobriety I was shooting 2-3 bundles a day. When I relapsed I bought two bags. One night I did 1.5 bags shooting half a bag at a time. The next morning I shot the last half[well, a little more than half] of the last bag and ODed and died. I was by myself. Hospitalization due to OD can be serious, I am lucky to be alive. The truth is a bag of heroin is not 100% pure pharma grade. You can't compare it. It could be like snorting 20mg of oxycodone or it could be like shooting 52mg of dilaudid - you NEVER know. Sometimes you can think a dealer has a regular quality but it can easily go up and down.
And FYI if there is fent in it it will NOT be "like 180mg". A bag of powder heroin can contain between 75mg and 300mg of powder in it. Depending on how cut it is that could be 200mg of drug in a GOOD bag. A bad bag could have 50mg of heroin. FENT and Fent synthesis' can be 10,000 times stronger than morphine while heroin is only 1.5 or 2 (i forget and dont wanna fact check) times stronger than morphine. That would make it like 5000mg
ACCORDING TO http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi
50mg IV Fent = 10,000mg ORAL OXYCODONE
That is pretty much instant lights out. Thankfully there is not a huge fent problem like there was in 2006 when thousands of Americans died by overdosing on synthetic fent produced in Mexico. IMO anybody who shoots fent exclusively has a death wish
The truth is you never know how much is in a bag of H. I have been clean before for 7 months straight and did not use a single drug in that time period. Before my sobriety I was shooting 2-3 bundles a day. When I relapsed I bought two bags. One night I did 1.5 bags shooting half a bag at a time. The next morning I shot the last half[well, a little more than half] of the last bag and ODed and died. I was by myself. Hospitalization due to OD can be serious, I am lucky to be alive. The truth is a bag of heroin is not 100% pure pharma grade. You can't compare it. It could be like snorting 20mg of oxycodone or it could be like shooting 52mg of dilaudid - you NEVER know. Sometimes you can think a dealer has a regular quality but it can easily go up and down.
And FYI if there is fent in it it will NOT be "like 180mg". A bag of powder heroin can contain between 75mg and 300mg of powder in it. Depending on how cut it is that could be 200mg of drug in a GOOD bag. A bad bag could have 50mg of heroin. FENT and Fent synthesis' can be 10,000 times stronger than morphine while heroin is only 1.5 or 2 (i forget and dont wanna fact check) times stronger than morphine. That would make it like 5000mg
ACCORDING TO http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi
50mg IV Fent = 10,000mg ORAL OXYCODONE
That is pretty much instant lights out. Thankfully there is not a huge fent problem like there was in 2006 when thousands of Americans died by overdosing on synthetic fent produced in Mexico. IMO anybody who shoots fent exclusively has a death wish
OxyDillyKing
Bluelighter
Yes its ridiculous to think you can predict how much drug is in even the most consistent of H supplies. The truly safe thing to do, which i doubt many people will when they are sick and want to get off, is shoot like 15% of one of the bags in your bundle, just to make sure its not some crazy potent shit. itll be well worth it if they 15% of the bag hits you way harder than it should, and you find out the bags you have are 3 times as potent as normal, and that if you would shot your normal 3-4 bags you'd probably be dead. find this out is definitely worth an extra minute or two and use a little bit from one bag just to test out. if the shit does have fent in it, you stand a much better chance of living if you do this tester shot first. then youll know instead of doing your usual 3-4 bags for a good high, that the ones you have only take one bag to get you blasted. it could save your life. quality changes all time, and your dealer is almost always gonna tell you its " fire " so he/she is not reliable gauge on quality
Well I snorted a total of 3 good sized bumps yesterday. It was of decent quality. So tonight I am going to take a little less than half of what I usually snort and bang it. Wish me luck. I'll be sure to shoot it slow and use 50-60 cc's of water in the shot. I'm hoping all goes well. I want to feel nothing for a good of couple hours.
OxyDillyKing
Bluelighter
Ok just be CAREFUL. let us know how it goes, and that you made it without any problems. Hope everything works out
Okay so I know I keep asking questions and delaying this cause to be honest, I'm still a little nervous. I just hit a good bump, gonna wait till this fades to bang. Do you think my anxiety that randomly pops up from time to time will be a problem? When I banged a Roxy for the first time I passed out (not from OD, but from anxiety, I felt calm...guess I wasn't) The first time someone else shot me up with a small dose of H i almost felt nothing, it was terrible dope and I snorted some right before that (don't know if that had anything to do with it) I still got really, really hot, and sweaty for a couple of minutes and got pale. I just don't want to pass out again, I think it was a sub-conscious type thing, as most anxiety attacks are. So I'm going to try and stay calm since I'm somewhat used to the idea now.