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Film: X-Men 3: The Last Stand

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LiquidMethod said:
All 3 of the movies needed Gambit. Not sure why he wasn't included, but yea, that's wack.

they couldn't afford someone pimp enough to play him
 
L2R said:
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This was not a good scene. It completely compromised Xavier's leadership, wisdom and patience. Saying something arrogant like "i don't need to explain myself to you." is a total cop out, and cannot be uttered by anyone but really flawed characters.

Patrick Stewart has played an equally strong character in a similar situation where he was forced to break down in another movie fanchise, but that was done without comprimising the character's strength. See Star Trek: First Contact, for the scene where his command decision is challenged by the "girl from the past".
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lol funnily enough... i drew that exact same conclusion...the girl from the past was named Lily by the way. ;)
 
i would take your critique on board, but am highly untrustworthy of someone who spells "two" as "too"
if you're going to criticize someone's syntax/spelling use propper grammer. "trustworthy"? you meant to say "trusting"
 
^this thread is quite the comedy

DigitalDuality said:
lol funnily enough... i drew that exact same conclusion...the girl from the past was named Lily by the way. ;)

yeah dat bitch
 
Just wanted to echo the sentiments raised by other posters. For the sake of spoilers, I'll white it out:

Yes, Xavier's outburst toward Logan did seem a little out of place, and it cast a cloud over his death and the way in which Logan wept and mourned his loss. Film is like poetry - it has to convey huge concepts with relatively little time and material... and I just felt that that particular scene made things unhelpfully awkward. I'd also second what Axl said about the director's apparent willingness to kill off or otherwise neuter main characters. I was spectacularly unimpressed with Cyclops' death (all through the film I was expecting him to come back) and I felt that his inclusion was a little tokenistic.

With regards to these two points, I can't help but feel that the new director was attempting to put his own mark on the film... to differentiate it from the others in the franchise, when, in fact, it would have been better to maintain continuity. Unadventurous perhaps, but probably more satisfying.

Also, there were a couple of plot holes that left me a little underwhelmed. Rogue 'curing' herself took the wind out of my sails, purely because with the rescue of the bald-headed boy who's aura temporarily removed mutant abilities, it ultimately seemed like a futile act (in my own warped little mind, I imagined that the bald kid could sit in his bedroom reading comic books and listening to music really loud, so that Rogue and her boyfriend could have really freaky monkey sex in the next bedroom... uh, maybe that's just me)... but the point was that something could have been worked out.

Similarly, I was really perplexed why Logan had to kill the Phoenix. If he'd used one of the cure needles, Jean would have been saved??? In the end, I was looking for a happy ending... and having three of themain characters bumped off and another two removed of their powers didn't really give me the satisfying conclusion that I wanted.


Never mind... it kept me entertained for a few hours. And yes, Alpha, he really did look like Prince... that's exactly what I thought as well.
 
Psychedelic Gleam said:
horrid horrid movie when compared to the first too...

Brett Radner took an interesting and exciting comic book series (and first too movies) and turned it into trite drama, boring and melodramatic with typical hollywood big explositions and such...

Hugely disappointed.

Agree completly, in the beginning I almost wanted to stand up in the sold out theater and yell that if we the consumers stopped paying to see these big budget crap fest then Hollywood would have no choice but to stop making this shit.
 
People? Stop giving movies 1s. VERY FEW FILMS are actually a 1. This movie was NOT a 1. So stop being spiteful and whiney.

I think X2 was better, but I still enjoyed this film quite a lot. It was solid, and had some beautiful themes (female/male energy there at the end). I would have liked to see more shirtless Wolverine, though. :D

I really liked the score in this film, loved the Phoenix when she was actually doing stuff, and liked the general storyline/concept, even if it felt a bit rushed. I'm glad a friend told me to stay till the end of the credits.

I don't think they'll do another one -- I think the last bit was simply for some closure.
 
^ your point of the film being a little rushed is all too true. despite the fact that this was an overall short film they had to introduce so many new characters I'm surprised to say that the film did a decent job with the time that they had.

L2R - I completely agree with you on how that one infirmary scene kinda contradicted Xavier's character as a whole. that was just something he would not say - even if it was known that he had to mess with Jean's psyche a little bit for her own good. it seemed to put Xavier into a more "I'm better than you, specially you Wolverine cuz you're a barbaric loon" scope, which is NOT who he is.

I still loved this movie, it could have been better but realistically it could have been much, much worse.
 
This was not a good scene. It completely compromised Xavier's leadership, wisdom and patience. Saying something arrogant like "i don't need to explain myself to you." is a total cop out, and cannot be uttered by anyone but really flawed characters.
Agreed. I was really annoyed at this also.

Film is like poetry - it has to convey huge concepts with relatively little time and material...
What an elegant metaphor! Absolutely fitting too. I love it.

Shockwave must be a female. But I don't know his/her actual name so I have no idea what to look for on imdb...
 
"shockwave's" real name was Archlight. which doesn't make sense according to the comics because it was in fact a man and his mutant power had more to do with fire (in fact in the funny books he evolved to a skeleton looking thing covered in flames). in the movie she was addressed as a female, if you can remember when the porcupine guy said something like "I will let my ladies take care of you" when they were going after the Doctor Lady and Worthington Sr.
 
i was wrong: chick
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albeit a very manly faced chick.
 
Another note.
I wasn't very pleased with the introduction of catagorised mutants. Having them ambiguously classed is a very cheap writing tool IMO.
 
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