Film: Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith

[Web]

The droid general was a bad-ass, his lightsaber battle with Kenobi was really nice.

The Emperor's melted look coming from his battle with Mace Windu... lame. Mace HAD his ass though!

 

[Finder]

Originally posted by Web
Mace HAD his ass though!

You sure? Or was Palpatine just trying to look weak to sway Anakin?

 

[Ester~of~WoodRosin]

Web,

I don't think Mace had his ass. Palaptine made him self to look weak so that he could not only get sympathy from Anakin, but according to the novelzation, get sympathy from the Sentate that the Jedi have turned on them. Palaptine had the upper hand in this.

 

[Blue_Lava]

You guys been watching the little anime clips of the clone wars. Awesome! We burned the first 12, or so to DVD when they first came out. Just realized they have twice that number of episodes now! Anyway, eagerly awaiting the DVD 6 disc box set. My only merchandise purchase unless I come into cash. Then I'm all about the $500 stormtrooper blaster replica.

 

[Sideways_Falling]

Originally posted by Web
Mace HAD his ass though!

You sure? Or was Palpatine just trying to look weak to sway Anakin?

palpatine was definatly trying to sway anakin. you could see it in his eyes...

 

[Finder]

I know that.

:D

 

[ice-9]

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I burst out laughing in the theatre when Darth Vader learns about padme. When he screams nooo, it looks like he's doing the robot. Like another poster mentioned, this moment of great tragedy looked like a parody.

Other than that, I felt it was an entertaining piece of film. I don't have a TV, so i've heard pretty much none of the hype that built up for this. It's nothing super spectacular. but good.

 

[physix]

speaking of which

http://vaderkaneno.ytmnd.com/


classic!

 

[Stasis]

^
LOL

It turns out that this Parody was dead on... still cracks me up. :D

"Sphere O' Fear..."

 

[Raving Loony]

I come away from this movie feeling that at least this time around it didn't put the original three to shame. I going to put it on the same level as Return of the Jedi (which was the weakest of the trilogy). I'm going to give this film 3 stars, but it could have been so much better if Lucas had sub contracted out the script writing for the love scenes to a 10 year old. OMG, how bad were they. I never expected the film to be as impressive Empire Strikes Back, but it is frustrating in that it could have been. But mad props to Lucas for his, jab at the Bush admin at the end.

 

[physix]

^ it wasn't a jab at bush.... it was written almost 15
years ago.


it just so happens that it's relevent today....

 

[jpgrdnr]

i think the acting all around was bad
it was interesting in that it somewhat connected everything
very pop culture.

 

[physix]

the acting in all of th emovies from a NEW HOPE on
up have been bad... except a few good ones occasionally
by Ford, Guinnes, and McGregor... no one should be going
to Star Wars movies looking for good acting.

 

[Raz]

Things I liked about Star Wars:Revenge of the Sith:

• Yoda and R2D2 kicked ass in a MAJOR way, I would never have imagined R2 being as cool as he was here, and even with much forewarning about how cool Yoda is in this movie, it still took me by surpise.
• The fight scenes. The opening space battle was awesome, and made me realise how good a movie about The Authority could be (apologies for non-comic book geeks). Also, Obi-Wan's final battle with General Grievous kicked ass. As did Chancellor Palpatine throwing hover-platfoms at Yoda.
• Generally, the detail which went into it visually. No visual element was left untouched.
• THANK GOD, no Jar Jar Binks for most of the movie, and no talking part for him. I hate Jar Jar Binks like you wouldn't believe.
• The space battle that opened the film. Love it.

Things I disliked about Star Wars:Revenge of the Sith:

• I expect a bit of cheese...after all, this is Star Wars...but there were times when some of the bad guys were a bit too comical. Palpatine's begging for mercy...Darth Vader's "NOOOOOOOOOOO" when he heard about Padme...Grievous saying out loud, "Now I will make my escape" (or words to that effect) when he got away in the escape pod and there was NOBODY THERE TO HEAR HIM.
• Generally, the complete and utter uselessness of the Jedis, other than Yoda and Samuel L Jackson. The surviving kid from the Jedi Temple was cool, the rest of them were very VERY lame.
• The complete and utter lack of women in the film. To be honest, it didn't bother me so much that women weren't important in the movie. It bothered me that Padme was the only female speaking part in the movie, and she didn't get to do anything other than look concerned and pop out babies. It's probably a good thing for Natalie Portman to be involved in something this big for her future fame prospects, but it's a shitehouse showcase for her acting ability, and a really big kick in the nads for feminism in general...not that women have nads, let's just mark that down as one of those statements which might be ironic or something...

 

[wanderlust]

^ it wasn't a jab at bush.... it was written almost 15
years ago.


it just so happens that it's relevent today....

lucas has in round about way admited that this last film does have some jabs at bush or at least a republican ruler gone slightly mad and drunk with his power and (religious) belief

 

[physix]

the issue isn't really whether or not they are
there.... of course they are... we see it... the
question persists whether or not his movie is
an intentional slam on Bush... it is not... there's no
way it COULD be...


in all the interviews that i've read regarding the situation,
he's only admitted that it's a jab at any instance in human
history where a democratic culture of some sort has freely
given up power...


so yes, it's true that you can LOOK at the political structure
of Star Wars and draw parallels to what's happening in
USofA right now... you cannot -- and he even says it -- say
that such was his intention, as he wrote the story many
years ago and used Hitler and some other historic figures
in drawing up his fallen republic...

i'm not saying you cannot draw a parallel to Bush, and i
know people who loooove to say "oh! Bush you got dissed!"
but this story was written over 10-15 years ago... so unless
he has a crystal ball...

from a Cannes website

Lucas said he patterned his story after historical transformations from freedom to fascism, never figuring when he started his prequel trilogy in the late 1990s that current events might parallel his space fantasy.

“As you go through history, I didn’t think it was going to get quite this close. So it’s just one of those recurring things,” Lucas said at a Cannes news conference. “I hope this doesn’t come true in our country.

and then again

Unlike Moore, whose Cannes visit came off like an anybody-but-Bush campaign stop, Lucas never mentioned the president by name but was eager to speak his mind on U.S. policy in Iraq, careful again to note that he created the story long before the Bush-led occupation there.

“When I wrote it, Iraq didn’t exist,” Lucas said, laughing.

“We were just funding Saddam Hussein and giving him weapons of mass destruction. We didn’t think of him as an enemy at that time. We were going after Iran and using him as our surrogate, just as we were doing in Vietnam. … The parallels between what we did in Vietnam and what we’re doing in Iraq now are unbelievable.”

i draw again an important part of that statement...

careful again to note that he created the story long before the Bush-led occupation there.

“When I wrote it, Iraq didn’t exist,” Lucas said, laughing.


i'm trying to find the other article which he says this...

 

[wanderlust]

Nonsense, says Mr. Lucas. He told reporters that any analogies found in his latest effort are strictly historical. He noted he had read histories of how democracy had been subverted by the Romans under Caesar, the French under Napoleon, and the Germans under Hitler. He pointed out that the original 1977 Star Wars movie "was written during the Vietnam War and Nixon era, when the issue was how a democracy turns itself over to a dictator -- not how a dictator takes over a democracy." He said that parallels between the war depicted in the film and the Iraq conflict were also overblown: "When I wrote (the Star Wars treatment), Iraq didn't exist. We were just funding Saddam Hussein and giving him weapons of mass destruction."

Mr. Lucas' wish to distance himself from those who would exploit his latest Star Wars epic for political purposes is shared by Ian McDiarmid, the actor who plays the manipulative Supreme Chancellor Palpatine in the film. When asked if his character's preaching of peace while pursuing conflict involved any references to President Bush, he demurred. He says he modeled his character more along the lines of Serbian dictator Slobodan Milosevic, whom he described as "quite Sithian, actually" referring to the evil rivals of the virtuous Jedi Knights.

http://johnrlott.tripod.com/2005/05/star-wars-lucas-anti-war-commentary-on.html

Lucas Admits Bush-Star Wars Parallel

SAN FRANCISCO (IFOC) - Director George Lucas has retracted his denial that "Revenge Of The Sith" and the entire series of "Star Wars" movies were based on the current political climate in Washington D.C.

"Twenty-seven years ago, I knew this all would happen," said Lucas from his Skywalker Ranch. "So I wrote up the story of George W. Bush in the form of Chancellor Palpatine, tossed Dick Cheney in there as a tragic Cyborg antihero, and symbolized my fears for the Senate and America into the Galactic Senate and the Republic."


Lucas's vision wasn't absolutely perfect, however. "I made Yoda green," he said. "Over the years, Helen Thomas has shrunk and wrinkled up badly, speaking in a shrill croak and semi-coherent sentences, but she's yet to turn green.

"I'll fix that in the Special Special Edition DVD set."

http://news.isfullofcrap.com/oldcrap/2005/05/lucas_admits_bu.html

yes, yes... he can back down from it.... bust really, lines like "You are either with me - or you are my enemy." are so... right dead on... it gets hard to believe that modern times had no influence at all on his protrayal of the orginal script. he is not living in a time capsule or in a vacuum, man is effected by external winds, so who knows.

i am looking for this article i read that gave me the impression that lucas did put a bit of bush in there (not just by coincidence). it was in the magazine 'the week' about... two, three weeks ago? i think i may have thrown it out already. there was an editorial, also, with the writter saying that lucas had to back off from his first movie (ep. 1) with the largely noticed racist edges (like the accents of jar jar and others) and turn to the old hollywood favorite- the democrats and their views- in order to find grace again.

 

[Infernal]

Maddox said it best...

 

[physix]

http://johnrlott.tripod.com/2005/05/star-wars-lucas-anti-war-commentary-on.html


http://news.isfullofcrap.com/oldcrap/2005/05/lucas_admits_bu.html

yes, yes... he can back down from it.... bust really, lines like "You are either with me - or you are my enemy." are so... right dead on... it gets hard to believe that modern times had no influence at all on his protrayal of the orginal script.
.

wait... are you citing the news source from an URL
with "full of crap" in it as viable news source
defending the position that Lucas put Bush
references in there???

i'm confused...

i mean, here's their statement of purpose

IFOC News spans the globe searching for news and, failing to find any, makes it up and brings it to you, the eager consumer. We are staffed 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and 365 days a year but we spend most of that time goofing off and missing deadlines. As a trusted provider of fake news, we'd cherish our tradition of standards, ethics, and balanced coverage if we could ever find the policy manual.

which then, in the article goes on to say

"Twenty-seven years ago, I knew this all would happen,"

really?

this is real news?



now, i think the fact that a piece of work that
was actually based on Julius Caesar and Hitler's
time and can still draw parallelisms to US's
current political structure far more believable
than Lucas EVER re-writing his precious
STAR WARS backstory...

if so, he wouldn't have made the obvious blunder
of Padme dying at childbirth, and the Leah remembering
her, and then trying to excuse it by saying "oh,
well, they shared a FORCE BOND"... blech


fuck that. now THAT is a re-write of "history"
that i could have done without... lazy fat
double chinned bastard.


in this case, sorry, it's life imitating art.
not art imitating life.

but, if it makes the current anti-Bush/anti-American
(sometimes they are one in the same) happier to
BELIEVE that Lucas attacked Bush deliberately in a
25+ year old story, then, so be it.

Maddox said it best...

Maddox is old and bitter and refuses to enjoy
anythig but his own worthless prats and rants


(plus he hasn't been funny in a looooong time)

they've said it over and over and over and over
again, ever since ESB.... "the darkside clouds the force"
and the jedi counsel had always been weary of
Palpatine...

and, the Jedi's forces were growing more and more
arrogant is if there was no way someone could
get one over on them... it's a lesson in "growing
too big for your britches"... that's part and parcel
of the Fall of Jedi portion of the storyline... they
were the root of their own folly

Maddox refuses to see that b-c he can't see past
what's handed to him... plus, he simply wanted to
bash something that made alot of money

 

[wanderlust]

wait... are you citing the news source from an URL
with "full of crap" in it as viable news source
defending the position that Lucas put Bush
references in there???

not seriously.


i pretty much thought it was hilarious article.
you know, with the yoda part and all.