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Opioids fetty where r u

I was referring primarily to fentanyl patches. Apparently, many people do get pain relief using those. I wouldn't know; I've never used them.
Really I was offered them 8 years ago and said no. I heard that only certain ones work well for pain. And I got awful insurance. So I would be stuck with the worst of the generic ones.
 
Really I was offered them 8 years ago and said no. I heard that only certain ones work well for pain.
I don't know. Just going on what I've heard.

For instance:
Probably at the top as far as opioids used medically for pain management via the transdermal patches. I’ve never seen a better system for chronic a pain management than the fentanyl patch.
 
Another example of YMMV.
For me, methadone is second only to oxycodone for euphoria. Hydrocodone comes in third. I don't find Dilaudid particularly euphoric, though I know that many people do. I prefer Demerol. Fentanyl would be my last choice for euphoria, although it's excellent for relief of physical pain.

(edit) Oh, and buprenorphine? I don't like it. It does provide some euphoric effects, but it feels "dirty" to me. Also, it's the only opioid that gives me anxiety. Weird, I know.
I till this day actually get some euphoria from a low dose of Oxycodone.
 
It’s really isn’t if it’s straight fent. Probably at the top as far as opioids used medically for pain management via the transdermal patches. I’ve never seen a better system for chronic a pain management than the fentanyl patch.

As a recreational opioid I give it a A- or a B.

Maybe all the fent on the street sucks but pure or pharma grade fent is great
Well to be fair, there aren’t any opiate based patches - I have no doubt they’d be even better, except with regards to potency of course. And patches can have their disadvantages. I’ve tried a few that contained non-narcotics drugs (hormonal contraception and lidocaine) and I find they irritate my skin and I just don’t like having something like that on me continuously. So I don’t see that they’re necessarily all that superior to depot injections or extended release in most cases.
 
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Well to be fair, there aren’t any opiate based patches
Sure there are. Fentanyl and buprenorphine are both available in transdermal patches.

My pain management doctor that used them in his practice said they were superior to oral dosing because the serum level is more steady vs the up and down seen in the PK profiles of oral dosing vs transdermal dosing.
 
Sure there are. Fentanyl and buprenorphine are both available in transdermal patches.

My pain management doctor that used them in his practice said they were superior to oral dosing because the serum level is more steady vs the up and down seen in the PK profiles of oral dosing vs transdermal dosing.
Those are opioids. I was referring to morphine based opiates.
 
Those are opioids. I was referring to morphine based opiates.
nobody said that natural products were available transdermally so I’m not sure why you even are bringing it up.

I said fentanyl transdermal patches are great. I referred to fentanyl as an opioid in my original statement. You said opiates that are natural products aren’t in patches - cool story, you are very smart but I don’t see what it has to do with me mentioning that fentanyl patches are great
 
And what’s the significance of it being a poppy natural product vs a semisynthetic or totally synthetic?

I don’t see why it matters where it comes from; also nobody said that natural products were available transdermally so I’m not sure why you even are bringing it up.

I said fentanyl transdermal patches are great. I referred to fentanyl as an opioid in my original statement. You said opiates that are natural products aren’t in patches - cool story, you are very smort but I don’t see what it has to do with me mentioning that fentanyl patches are great
Many people prefer opiates, and personally I find them much more effective for pain, with only the exception of methadone (although I have not tried meperidine, which seems promising). So basically, I’m just pointing out that there’s not very many opiate/opioid painkillers in patch format, and I suspect hydromorphone, oxymorphone, & heroin patches would be preferred by most people for both pain and recreation.
 
Many people prefer opiates, and personally I find them much more effective for pain, with only the exception of methadone (although I have not tried meperidine, which seems promising). So basically, I’m just pointing out that there’s not very many opiate/opioid painkillers in patch format, and I suspect hydromorphone, oxymorphone, & heroin patches would be preferred by most people for both pain and recreation.

Here you Transdermal morphine patches used on humans. I don’t think it’s commercially available but fentanyl must fill the medical need sufficiently for transdermal pain management for their not to be a need to produce them commercially.

I’ve never heard someone in severe pain turn down a fentanyl patch but begggars can’t be choosers these days

 
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When my mother was dying of cancer, first form of pain relief they gave her, of course, was tramadol. Then they went to a fentanyl patch after I got the doctor and nurses on my side. Once she went on the fentanyl patch, she would fall asleep, mid sentence, every sentence. Then they gave her the morphine anytime she wanted as well as extra patches. Not that my mother is a good gauge on how well that fentanyl patches work, but yeah, she would definitely drift off to sleep just sitting there talking to you even before the morphine. So whether that was a brand-name or a generic fentanyl patches I could see it definitely worked. You could see her eyes were pinned.
 
Pure garbage. I wouldn't even take it if it was free. Just seeing the people walking bent over looking half dead is a turn off.

What's in it that makes people slouch like that? I've also seen people like it on Kensington and skid row YouTube videos
 
Pure garbage. I wouldn't even take it if it was free. Just seeing the people walking bent over looking half dead is a turn off.

What's in it that makes people slouch like that? I've also seen people like it on Kensington and skid row YouTube videos
We call that Baltimore Yoga in Maryland
 
What's in it that makes people slouch like that? I've also seen people like it on Kensington and skid row YouTube videos
xylazine seems to make people extra opioid slouchy like that, the zombie statue look-- not a normal looking nod

t hat was being added to a lot of the fetty/dope going around not too long ago... maybe still is

it's an animal tranquilizer
 
It has to be doing permanent damage. If we're going to do safe supply why not give them fentanyl patches and they have to return them to get new ones.

They don't want the hydromorph and it's getting traded for fentanyl so might as well give them what they want and less will get diverted to the general public .

I ran into a couple i used to see at my old clinic and in less than a year they have aged 10. Sad to see, they're 24.
 
Fent patches for me were very euphoric. Most pharmaceuticals for me at least, but then again I was not using it as a transdermal the only patches I used directed was bupe patches when trying to get clean. I would suck on the mylan patches and I would smoke the gel contained inside the jelly filled patches (which I don't think you can get anymore). I could smoke a 100 micrograms in a 3-5 hour period, which was very addicting. I still find Norco 10/5s euphoric even with my high ass tolerance. I wish they still made the yellow Norcos. It took me over a year to adjust to street fent or whatever thr fuck their whipping up. It would normally just put me to sleep and not enjoyable. I just didn't want to deal with my trauma and PTSD related to some events st the time id rather not talk about, bur since ive resolved. And after a few years of fighting just not to be sick I'm at the crossroads I'm at. My point was that for me at least pharmaceuticals were way more euphoric regardless of what opiate they were minus methadone. Before my tolerance got to where it was I would have gladly taken hydromorphone or oxymorphone( which I doubt they prescribe anymore).
 
Fent patches for me were very euphoric. Most pharmaceuticals for me at least, but then again I was not using it as a transdermal the only patches I used directed was bupe patches when trying to get clean. I would suck on the mylan patches and I would smoke the gel contained inside the jelly filled patches (which I don't think you can get anymore). I could smoke a 100 micrograms in a 3-5 hour period, which was very addicting. I still find Norco 10/5s euphoric even with my high ass tolerance. I wish they still made the yellow Norcos. It took me over a year to adjust to street fent or whatever thr fuck their whipping up. It would normally just put me to sleep and not enjoyable. I just didn't want to deal with my trauma and PTSD related to some events st the time id rather not talk about, bur since ive resolved. And after a few years of fighting just not to be sick I'm at the crossroads I'm at. My point was that for me at least pharmaceuticals were way more euphoric regardless of what opiate they were minus methadone. Before my tolerance got to where it was I would have gladly taken hydromorphone or oxymorphone( which I doubt they prescribe anymore).
I've never had a large amount that I could mess with to find the right dose of pharmaceutical fentanyl, but anytime I've taken it at the hospital, it didn't really do much for me. Barely alleviated pain, granted, all of those instances I was in a pretty severe situation.

I feel like street fentanyl, well, I mean mathematically, it's primarily just bullshit adulterants right? Like whatever they bulk it out with, crushed tylenols or caffeine + xylazine or whatever tf they do these days ... If it was too much fentanyl, people would die even more. So I'd imagine that ingesting all that extra bullshit may have some kind of effects on the experience when taking it, making street fent a bit different subjectively. That's unscientific conjecture on my part, but it makes sense to me lol

Pretty sure there's RC benzos in there too... When I quit doing dope it was starting to heavily become all fent in bmore, yeah that shit just knocks you out, I had like an almost out of body experience with it... That was basically the last major bag I got before quitting. My ex and I were going through like a g or 2 every day or two of some pretty strong ass dope. But when I realized it had become utter garbage, it just wasn't even worth doing or fun anymore. I feel bad for the addicts that have only known this tranq dope... Tbh I get a more desirable and useful buzz from strong kratom extracts.
 
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