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Fentanyl, Morphine, GHB: overdose, near death

subdefy said:
I think people should start mentioning that not to combine GHB with ANY depressent not just alcohol as perhaps Dexter thought since it wasn't alcohol then it should be fine.
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good point. Though that didnt cross my mind at all. I honestly didnt give a fuck. GBL/GHB is really nice if you are super fucking careful with it. There's just something not right about drinking something that smells like varnish and makes me twitch before it comes on............
 
Morphine and fethanol are dangerous drugs. My friend just died from taking 6 60mg pills. Pretty sure it was a suicide because I know him well, partied hard with him, had the same tollerance with him. He almost died once before, he ate 20 1mg xanax, would kill a normal person. Worse part about it my buddy had a beautiful 1 year old daughter. Sad.
 
Man that's a really sad story. I hope you're off that GHB crap (and sorry kids it is crap) for good. As you so wisely say, 'Eat LSD'. Cos catherters aint cool.
 
I've never heard anyone say GHB is crap except for prohibition sites and/or date rape sites.
 
MDMARI said:
Morphine and fethanol are dangerous drugs. My friend just died from taking 6 60mg pills. Pretty sure it was a suicide because I know him well, partied hard with him, had the same tollerance with him. He almost died once before, he ate 20 1mg xanax, would kill a normal person. Worse part about it my buddy had a beautiful 1 year old daughter. Sad.
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20mg of xanax, alone with no other drugs, is no where near a lethal dose for any person, tolerance or not. Sure it might knock you out for a day or so, but its not a lethal dose. 80mg of xanax isnt even a lethal dose.

TheghostofBillHicks: GHB is not a crap drug. First of all, you must know the difference in quality and side effects/lack there of between the different forms of GHB/GBL. Secondly, eat acid ;)

I still use morphine a couple times a week at most. This overdose experience has really hit some reality checks into me the last few weeks. The other thing is, when you are using a certain drug all the time, with very high doses, the experience is no longer pleasurable. It loses all relevnace and purporse..and becomes insainly costly on your bank account. "Body drugs" I now realize, should be used in the same or similar context as psychedelic drugs. You must never abuse them, and have a limit as to how many uses you do a month, a week, whatever. The longer the dry time you have between uses, the more rewarding and euphoric the experience will be...not to mention how fucking great it is having a low tolerance ($$$$$)

Cheers
 
DexterMeth said:
GHB is not a crap drug. First of all, you must know the difference in quality and side effects/lack there of between the different forms of GHB/GBL. Secondly, eat acid ;)
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Yes. GHB is not a crap drug but it is an incredibly dangerous drug if you're not careful with your dosing. And unfortunately, being careful with your dosing requires the kind of clear head that goes very quickly when you pre-indulge in other drugs, or if you're already on GHB!

Take care of yourself DexterMeth. The fact that you had enough time on your hands for this to happen means you simply are not eating enough acid ;)
 
^You are correct sir. I think that this is generally one of the main reasons why people end up heavilly abusing drugs....boredom. Once you have gotten over the experimental phase, and know what everything dose, and in what amounts, etc. Boredome usage kicks in. Keeping/Maintaining a balanced reasonable, rational daily schedule is crutial to a person in early recovery. It's also a vital part of therapy for a dual diagnosed individual.

About the "eat acid" comment i made. I'd like to stress that i was largely kidding. A trip or 2 once every blue moon can really benefit a person's psyche and general well being, ESPECIALLY with the proper guidance through the trip, and to have an experienced and open minded veteran psychonaught to sit around with you after wards and really process the meaning and substance of the trip after wards, once you have calmed down.

There is so much counter productive, isolated tripping going on nowadays. All this generally creates is more schizophrenics, paranoid androids, and other far side freaks that have the hardest time functioning in society, let alone riding a bus.
Poor kids.
 
Wow I learn something new every day. I didn't know you could eat over 20mg of xanax and it not be fatal. Not like I'm going to go out and do that its just good to know. And your right about high doses of morphine, it almost feels bland. Not much euphoria at all. I've used fethanol patches and lollipops and noticed higher does are just a waste of money.
 
Dosing yourself above the recreational and sometimes accidently safe level with opiates usually isnt pleasurable at all. I find it to be completely pointless now. I'm talking where you are so high that you are seeing doubles of everything, you can only see with one eye open, you keep nodding out when you have something to be doing..nodding out like every 10 seconds, feeling overheated and nausious. Mentally very apathetic with and unmotivated..so much so, that you dont even care about the experience of being so loaded on the drug(s) you like so much. :p

I apologize for going so much off topic admins and fellow BL'ers. Just felt like some things needed to be clarified.
 
Hahhha. Glad to see youre ok:) I think you may be some sort of shaman in the offing, being given a second chance at lfe and all (or maybe third, idont know).
 
As far as i'm concerned, I'm done with GHB. Not anywhere near as pleasant as morphine if you ask me...and it's very unforgiving if you dose just a little more then you are used to. I dunno. Just my opinion. Different strokes.

People, be careful. Siezures are not uncommon with GHB/GBL overdose, and many times siezures can lead to loss of airflow, (ie. "not being able to breath") while you are unconscious at the same time. If you are going to use G, you should always have someone around that is NOT going to be using it. You should always measure out your dose with an accurate measuring device..a syringe (no needle needed) would be the best. Know your source...be sure what you have is the real thing. You should know the purity. If you can get it from a company or a smart chemist, this would be the best, as it will be 99-100% pure.

I thought I wrote about this already, but i guess not. Constant use of G, depending on the form of G, will really fuck with your potassium levels. You can die from cardiac arrest or something like that if your levels get to low. Dammit someone correct me if i am wrong on this, i'm actually not sure if it is high or low, pretty sure it is low though.

Another thing is that this drug releases way too much dopamine, and if you are using all the time, multiple times a day, you are in for one hell of a nasty crash when you stop...so bad, that i would have people around to keep you from killing yourself. This drug is way WAY to easy to abuse every day. Know this ahead of time, and treat it with a cautious respect..same as you would with a loaded gun. I personally wouldnt go more than 3 times a week on this max. As with any drugs, you ruin the experience and the pleasure of it the more often you do it anyways, and tolerance is a bitch. and and and and i use the word and a lot because and and and i and and and.
 
DexterMeth said:
Constant use of G, depending on the form of G, will really fuck with your potassium levels. You can die from cardiac arrest or something like that if your levels get to low. Dammit someone correct me if i am wrong on this, i'm actually not sure if it is high or low, pretty sure it is low though.
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Yeah, GHB depletes potassium levels (or so it is thought...not all studies have identified this effect but hey why take the risk).
 
In the name of science i'd like to add then that my potas levels were not just significantly, but dangerously low. This is based off the results from the hospital blood lab.
 
navel, did you get those nasty little leg/arm twiches about 10 minutes after consuming GBL? They really annoyed me..were very short lived..like would last maybe 3 seconds and come and go in short spurt for 5 minutes, then i would be all GHB'ed out of my skull..but shit, made me almost not want to do the shit.
 
yes very uncomfortable :( i've scored another 50ml of gbl and i'm doing it again every night. sometimes they go all through my body.
 
guess I am the last one on the grapevine.

glad to hear you are doing alright, Tim. I hoped you used those first couple of days outta rehab to your advantage.

but on a completely different note: I dunno WTF I would be thinking sitting in rehab watching some degenerate like you come wheeling in. =D
 
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