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tryptakid said:
Speak for yourself - i"m 42 and my life gets better and better each year.
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If it’s so great why do you need to put chemicals into your body to change the way you feel? Life as it is, raw, obviously isn’t good enough for you if you are taking the risk of putting illegal drugs with toxic clandestine byproducts in them that could land you in jail.

Sure call it life enhancement, spiritual exploration blah blah blah. Bottom line is that regular life is missing something and you’re seeking it out on drugs. Even if it does improve your quality of life, that’s not the point, the point is that life isn’t enough for you as it is.



Get back to me when you’re dying of ass cancer one day. Get back to me when your spinal discs have degenerated and are digging into your spinal cord. Get back to me when you’re slowly dying of internal bleeding on the side of the road after a car accident.

Life has its peak and the peak isn’t at the end.

We’re all human and we all pay the piper in the end.
 
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jasperkent said:
I'm about to turn 66 and I've never been happier in my life.

FWIW, I started weaning myself off street drugs a few years ago. I grow my own weed and the only illegal drug I've purchased in the last year is blotter acid. It's excellent, BTW.
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If it’s so great why are you putting scheduled 1 chemicals into your body taking that risk of jail? Why are you destroying your lungs by smoking weed and increasing your chance of ischemic attacks by 8X by using cannabis?

See what I mean? You’re all proving my point. You’re all taking drugs because life as it is isn’t enough or is boring or whatever
 
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I understand you’re cool with death and you’re quite angry - you have every right to feel both those things. I’ve read many of your posts… I know you live with excruciating pain and I empathize with you.

Some drugs are perfect for enhancing experiences. Drugs can be used for fun times. It’s not always an escape.
Not everyone that uses drugs is miserable.
That’s cool too.
 
pixies+ said:
I understand you’re cool with death and you’re quite angry - you have every right to feel both those things. I’ve read many of your posts… I know you live with excruciating pain and I empathize with you.

Some drugs are perfect for enhancing experiences. Drugs can be used for fun times. It’s not always an escape.
Not everyone that uses drugs is miserable.
That’s cool too.
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Keep telling yourself whatever you want to justify your drug use.

If the experience needs to be enhanced it’s obviously not 100% fufilling enough on its own. It wouldn’t be worth risking legal problems and poisoning yourself.

If life was enough fun or spiritually rich enough to to 100% satisfy you there would be no reason to take drugs.

I don’t know why it’s so hard to get you guys to admit that life doesn’t leave everybody longing for more. Everyone has a void or yearning to some extent. Almost all non drug using ppl will readily admit this to you. they seek religions, they have kids, they seek art, they seek love. Ppl have an emptiness the fill with shit.

Don’t know what’s so hard to admit about doing that with drugs.

Someone can have a good life single and then get married because they were missing something more.

Humans always want more . You’re arguing against fundamental human nature etched into our evolutionary story
 
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cool. and I’m disagreeing with you

lsd could be taken a couple times a year or less. or mushrooms.
i wouldn’t consider that poisoning yourself or risking your freedom in the slightest.
 
pixies+ said:
cool. and I’m disagreeing with you

lsd could be taken a couple times a year or less. or mushrooms.
i wouldn’t consider that poisoning yourself or risking your freedom in the slightest.
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Disagree but don’t rebut the main point that people are taking drugs to make their life better. According to you they are taking them “just because” I guess? I still havnt heard and answer besides something to the extent of “it makes my life better” or adds something to my life.

There are tons of people that actually don’t take any drugs or have and don’t now. I’d argue they are the ones that aren’t “missing something” in drugs they need to seek through them.

Probably not poisoning yourself with that; but still risking your freedom and criminal record. If not call the cops and let them know your have it.

If you use weed with any regularity I would say you are indeed poisoning yourself and the scientific research agrees.
 
of course people take drugs in an attempt to make their lives better. more often than not it has the opposite effect.
that doesn’t mean everyone does

i didn’t say anything about myself. it was an example.

anyways, i disagree. it’s just an opinion… no more, no less.

enjoy your argument :)
 
LucidSDreamr said:
If it’s so great why are you putting scheduled 1 chemicals into your body taking that risk of jail? Why are you destroying your lungs by smoking weed and increasing your chance of ischemic attacks by 8X by using cannabis?

See what I mean? You’re all proving my point. You’re all taking drugs because life as it is isn’t enough or is boring or whatever
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All respect but I don't really think they're nessicarrily the fact that they're older means they're using drugs to deal with the pain of being alive due to old age.

It's a drug forum so I would think anybody coming here is on something, and bringing up the statistics of health impacts of weed comes off preachy. Like I could sit here and tell you why I don't eat red meat because you're x amount more likely to get liver cancer or whatever, but it's neither here nor there.

What it sounds like to me is these older folks used to use more drugs than currently and they're still happier now. I say all power to em, I understand the increasing population is a huge issue, but these people didn't ask to be here, just like any of us, also, really what can be done about it? I think time would be better spent protesting reproduction in the first place or selling contraceptives.
 
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JackARoe said:
I totally get it. You can't look at the world and not be depressed.
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Not true --- You just can't be smart or look hard. Look at that stupid political party in the US ( you choose which one) those ppl still happy as flies in shit.

LSD -
If it’s so great why do you need to put chemicals into your body to change the way you feel? Life as it is, raw, obviously isn’t good enough for you if you are taking the risk of putting illegal drugs with toxic clandestine byproducts in them that could land you in jail.
Sure call it life enhancement, spiritual exploration blah blah blah. Bottom line is that regular life is missing something and you’re seeking it out on drugs.

I believe you are failing to acknowledge a very real chunk of humanity -- The constant pursuit of making life nicer "It's never enough" "Everybody is looking for something" etc.! It is why we have billionaires, noone needs a billion dollars and one could make the same argument for money. "If you are happy with your life why are you still buying material goods of any kind?" Can say its just to enhance your life or make things easier/life nicer but CLEARLY you are not satisfied? ---- I DISAGREE WITH THE PREMISE. Ij am a happy ma'fucker -- there is always room for more happiness! We usually can't stop pursuing 'just a bit better' --- COULD BE HUMANITIES FATAL FLAW - Inability to be satisfied and go "Good enough, Ill hold my cards".

Destroying my lungs by smoking weed (oh cmon now) risking jail by using sched 1 substances -- we still considering psychedelics sched 1 I suppose? Making the most out of life is patently not the same as not enjoying it.

You really think they guy that has never tripped once in his life "Isn't missing anything?" that these people would not be a bit happier if they smoked one now and than?

You show me a happy sober I will show you a liar or a complete sociopath
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
You show me a happy sober I will show you a liar or a complete sociopath
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I may use that as a signature. You gave a handful notsmokey. Now you are making me think even only on my first cup of coffee. ;) And I had something to say to Lucid yesterday but forgot. Maybe I will remember when I have a smoke later.

Life is like a buffett, Happy mother fuckers pick the food they like and enjoy. Miserable mother fuckers pick what they don't like and complain.

Who really is 100% sober? They guy that takes meds meant for diabetes but helps lose weight? And he points his finger at me for weed? This society is unbelievable.

I agree a happy sober.........pfffffft.
 
Tbf, even when it's just been weed for extended periods, I don't think I've been sober sober for an extended period for over 20 years. Life probably is on balance "better" with some degree of substance use. Even "my body is a temple" fitness freaks are high on endorphins most of the time.

People or just mammals in general have always been fond of getting fucked up.
 
JackARoe said:
I may use that as a signature. You gave a handful notsmokey. Now you are making me think even only on my first cup of coffee. ;) And I had something to say to Lucid yesterday but forgot. Maybe I will remember when I have a smoke later.

Life is like a buffett, Happy mother fuckers pick the food they like and enjoy. Miserable mother fuckers pick what they don't like and complain.

Who really is 100% sober? They guy that takes meds meant for diabetes but helps lose weight? And he points his finger at me for weed? This society is unbelievable.

I agree a happy sober.........pfffffft.
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Perfect time to plug my "Everyone is on drugs" -- I think you have heard it by off chance so I will spare everyone. But the point is everyone is on drugs. caffeine, chocolate, nasal spray -- hypocrites all of them.

"Stoned Ape Theory" is worth a mention here as well as the fact animals also enjoy psychoactive substances and as far as I know it is not out of unhappiness they imbibe
 
Woah hey now LSD suffers from a pain condition -- we don't call people pathetic and full of self hatred and depression. Everybody has a different perspective and that should be respected.

I did question that # myself -- I thought it was more like 45-50 worst but I think now it is time to ask for a source and see who is correct.
 
nah you can be opiophobic if you want but we highly discourage going ad hom on people. Especially in ways that appear to be cruel. (I am out of this one though LSD can take care of himself). I have said my piece.
 
aceblue543 said:
, there are an endless number of innocent Mexican people being executed/murdered/subjugated by the cartels and others.
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Yeah we all know Mexican dealers are solely to blame.

It’s not like Colombians or the separatist rebels in Myanmar don’t do the exact same thing in the drug trade, y’know, terrorizing their home communities with corruption and violence


Oh wait yeah they do



Lmfao. Take a Soma and sleep it off bud. This post of reeks of coke bender that went too far and you thought it was some profound soliloquy that everyone would pat you on the back on 😂

I’m sure some street junkie with his limbs rotting off is gonna be oh so concerned with his ethically sourced narcotics

Unless you get your stuff from a pharmacy or literally grow it yourself; you’ve got absolutely zero leg to stand on with this…”argument”

The politics sub loves this kinda stuff you should mosey your talents on over there
cycloprop said:
They did usually live past 30 though? I don't know where you got this retarded notion from but I suspect that you're only saying this to justify your own pathetic self-hatred and depression.
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“Society fucking sucks omg I hope you all die everybody is just an npc mouth breather”

“Guys I’m gonna kill myself life has no meaning”


Lucid’s two primary calling cards. Get used to it
 
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notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
Woah hey now LSD suffers from a pain condition -- we don't call people pathetic and full of self hatred and depression. Everybody has a different perspective and that should be respected.

I did question that # myself -- I thought it was more like 45-50 worst but I think now it is time to ask for a source and see who is correct.
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I mostly agree with you. I have no issues with the guy personally. I generally have chosen not to engage. Or if I do, I see when it’s time to disengage. I don’t enjoy arguing over things that really don’t matter.. more so the last couple months than I ever did.

LSD had some pretty unkind things to say to a greenlighter. I may not think much of that particular opinion, but the person didn’t attack anyone.
LSD on the other hand… well.. you can read. I’ve seen him call just about everyone who interacts with him or disagrees with him, some kind of name. Usually in attack form. Usually more than once in one go.
If you’re gonna give it out, you’re gonna have to learn how to take it.

There’s always the other option… just be a little kinder. It’s very easy to snap at people. Takes a little more self control to either be kind or walk away. These day, tap a button. Then you don’t see the thing that’s pissing you off. Simple? If only.

There’s an awful lot of people on this forum, and in this world, in debilitating states caused by pain and lack of pain management. If everyone on here acted like this because they were in pain it would be impossible to have a conversation at all.

I like drugs for lots of reasons. I don’t do certain drugs for lots of reasons. I don’t care who does what drugs and why. It’s not my business and I certainly won’t scold anyone for it. Just be safe.
 
Ah I actually have not seen LSD fall too far out of pocket with personal attacks --- I do not always agree with his opinion but I respect it.

If he is dishing it out than Yea he can take it --- I don't see why anyone on here is throwing ad homs at each other. (In the politics shit I get a little heated I don't mean to be a hypocrite) but we should all avoid that as it just is not productive. However I am not a mod and have no reason to care other than general distractions I'd rather not read.

Both of you's be nice to each other! Take voxide for example don't agree with anything he says but it is so much more satisfying to chase someone out with reality than ad homs hehe
 
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