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Even if so why does that make you "Unhappy" by definiton? Can happiness be defined -- is anyone happy.

My counterargument is that it is human nature to continually pursue a higher degree of contentment no matter how content you may be. The exception being idk monks people that have really fought this instinct/urge. Drugs are no exception. Does a celabratory drink really show that whatever you are celebrating did not make you happy?

I still disagree with the premise
 
I only remember you based on your factually incorrect and slightly bigoted statements. Not too many people on this forum will push something false than flat back away completely - made a bit of an impression. The banned under your name was noted as well. Glad to have you back.

I'll just edit this in here -- I am logged in here all day because the main computer in the studio never gets turned off. I do enjoy this community more than any other forum though.
 
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notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
I only remember you based on your factually incorrect and slightly bigoted statements. Not too many people on this forum will push something false than flat back away completely - made a bit of an impression. The banned under your name was noted as well. Glad to have you back.
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My point is that it’s hilarious how you’re perpetually logged on here all day taking everything serious while I literally just pop in, laugh at my phone for a couple minutes, and then go back to my six figure programming job

But yeah enjoy winning your e-arguments man. You’re crushing it 👍🏻
 
LucidSDreamr said:
If it’s so great why do you need to put chemicals into your body to change the way you feel? Life as it is, raw, obviously isn’t good enough for you if you are taking the risk of putting illegal drugs with toxic clandestine byproducts in them that could land you in jail.
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Not everyone uses out of despair. Sometimes we use substances in order to connect with ourselves in ways that may not be possible without them - sometimes we use substances to explore consciousness, sometimes we use substances to connect with others in unique ways. Sometimes we use to self-medicate, for sure, and you are limiting the spectrum of reasons why people use substances if you only view it through that one lens.
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Sure call it life enhancement, spiritual exploration blah blah blah. Bottom line is that regular life is missing something and you’re seeking it out on drugs. Even if it does improve your quality of life, that’s not the point, the point is that life isn’t enough for you as it is.
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It isn't fair to invalidate my reasons and then use that as an excuse to further your own points. You don't know me and you don't have the right to assume you know how I or anyone else feels. You can ask, and you can observe, but just as I don't tell you how you feel, you aren't allowed to tell me how or why I feel what I do.
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Get back to me when you’re dying of ass cancer one day. Get back to me when your spinal discs have degenerated and are digging into your spinal cord. Get back to me when you’re slowly dying of internal bleeding on the side of the road after a car accident.

Life has its peak and the peak isn’t at the end.
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Sounds like the talk of someone who has given up on themself and can't understand why others haven't done the same.
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We’re all human and we all pay the piper in the end.
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I believe we are always paying the piper along the way - no need to wait until the end. I believe that hell is the experience that we make for ourselves along the way rather than a destination that we will end up in at some future point.
 
Voxide said:
Yeah we all know Mexican dealers are solely to blame.

It’s not like Colombians or the separatist rebels in Myanmar don’t do the exact same thing in the drug trade, y’know, terrorizing their home communities with corruption and violence
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Or executives in big pharma pumping oxy and fent into the drug supply; toeing the line between legal and unethical a hair away from the cartel bosses who do the same. Lawful evil and Chaotic evil are still evil.
 
tryptakid said:
Or executives in big pharma pumping oxy and fent into the drug supply; toeing the line between legal and unethical a hair away from the cartel bosses who do the same. Lawful evil and Chaotic evil are still evil.
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You are so fucking out of touch dude. Nobody is prescribing oxy to anyone.

there is a huge epidemic of under medicated catastrophic injury and chronic disease right now. Mass suicides of patients that have been pulled off Medicines they were on for decades.

Ever since the CDC and DEA cracked down on 2016 nobody prescribes opioids anymore.

Stanford universities chronic pain clinic does not prescribe any C2 opioids.

There are 5 pain clinics in the SF bay area of 3.5 million ppl that still have a license to script C2 narcotics. None take new patients.

Nobody prescribes opioids beyond just a week or two supply for a surgery anymore.

No pharma company is pumping the US full of opioids
 
tryptakid said:
It isn't fair to invalidate my reasons and then use that as an excuse to further your own points. You don't know me and you don't have the right to assume you know how I or anyone else feels. You can ask, and you can observe, but just as I don't tell you how you feel, you aren't allowed to tell me how or why I feel what I do.

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I don’t get what we are debating. We both seem to agree that we take a drug to improve our state of mind/feeling from the existing state of mind we are in sober.

The only other two choices would be;

2. Take a drug that does nothing and you stay the same state of mind : or m

3. Take a drug that is dysohiric and make you feel bad .




If you could make your brain on command have the effect of LSD or whatever X drug without taking an external chemical, would you still take the external chemical anyways? Or would you just command your brain to do the effect?

Of it’s the latter, sounds like something is missing from your brain/humanity that you wish you could feel on your own… but you can’t, so you need a drug to.
 
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LucidSDreamr said:
If it’s so great why are you putting scheduled 1 chemicals into your body taking that risk of jail? Why are you destroying your lungs by smoking weed and increasing your chance of ischemic attacks by 8X by using cannabis?

See what I mean? You’re all proving my point. You’re all taking drugs because life as it is isn’t enough or is boring or whatever
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I don't smoke weed. I make cookies. I do enjoy a mild buzz most evenings and it helps with chronic pain.

The acid? For me, tripping has never been recreational or escapist. It's a spiritual thing that helps me get more in touch with the Universe, not less. Definitely not an everyday thing, either. And the fact that it's illegal is irrelevant. I've never felt I was risking arrest by tripping in the privacy of my home or out in the woods.

I never said life was perfect. I said I'm happier than I've ever been. There are a lot of things that piss me off-- living in Trumpistan tops the list. And I hate that we are destroying our ecosystem in dozens of ways at an ever-increasing rate. Humans regularly annoy the hell out of me. So what?

Despite its flaws, there is beauty in the world and I see it wherever I can. Also, I enjoy learning and I'll never run out of new things to discover. I've reached a point where I find life not only tolerable but quite interesting and often enjoyable. If that drastically changes, I have no qualms about simply checking out-- it's the primary reason I own a .38 Special.
 
jasperkent said:
I don't smoke weed. I make cookies. I
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the risk for stroke and heart attacks and high BP is still increased significantly with edibles only. This is published science.
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the primary reason I own a .38 Special.
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The main reason I don’t own one is because I know I would’ve done it if it was that easy as using a firearm makes it without having to think much.


jasperkent said:
The acid? For me, tripping has never been recreational or escapist. It's a spiritual thing that helps me get more in touch with the Universe, not less.
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So you’re taking acid because sober mind state doesn’t provide the level of universal connection that satisfies you.

I keep making this point nobody wants to listen to: we are taking drugs because our current state is not good enough, satisfying enough, or comfortable enough. Which ever one it is for you- something is not there in sobriety that we find in drugs.

I don’t get why this is so controversial
 
jasperkent said:
I don't smoke weed. I make cookies. I do enjoy a mild buzz most evenings and it helps with chronic pain.

The acid? For me, tripping has never been recreational or escapist. It's a spiritual thing that helps me get more in touch with the Universe, not less. Definitely not an everyday thing, either. And the fact that it's illegal is irrelevant. I've never felt I was risking arrest by tripping in the privacy of my home or out in the woods.

I never said life was perfect. I said I'm happier than I've ever been. There are a lot of things that piss me off-- living in Trumpistan tops the list. And I hate that we are destroying our ecosystem in dozens of ways at an ever-increasing rate. Humans regularly annoy the hell out of me. So what?

Despite its flaws, there is beauty in the world and I see it wherever I can. Also, I enjoy learning and I'll never run out of new things to discover. I've reached a point where I find life not only tolerable but quite interesting and often enjoyable. If that drastically changes, I have no qualms about simply checking out-- it's the primary reason I own a .38 Special.
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I don't know why I love this old .38....think why you do
 
LucidSDreamr said:
I don’t get why this is so controversial
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Enhancing one's experience with drugs (or music or love or sex or art or literature or dancing or swimming or stargazing....) doesn't necessarily mean that life was miserable without.

Drugs, like any other gift, can be ignored or used or misused or abused.

I don't get why this is so confusing.
 
jasperkent said:
Enhancing one's experience with drugs (or music or love or sex or art or literature or dancing or swimming or stargazing....) doesn't necessarily mean that life was miserable without.

Drugs, like any other gift, can be ignored or used or misused or abused.

I don't get why this is so confusing.
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It’s not really about characterizing the gradient of satisfaction with words like “miserable” “so-so” “good” or “amazing” and justifying or vilifying use based on which label you’re starting from

the fact of the matter is you are using a drug to climb the ladder to a better place. It doesn’t matter if you are going from a 1 to a 4 or a 9 to 10 on the well being scale”

You’re doing the same thing every time when you take drugs. Climbing that 1-10 ladder from wherever you are to a more higher rating level.
 
jasperkent said:
Enhancing one's experience with drugs (or music or love or sex or art or literature or dancing or swimming or stargazing....) doesn't necessarily mean that life was miserable without.

Drugs, like any other gift, can be ignored or used or misused or abused.

I don't get why this is so confusing.
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aye --

we only disagree politically. What got me was someone implied you reported someone to ice or something -- which you said is not true and I take you at your word!----- and assume you would not be welcomed back if you had done such a thing.

So allow me to apologize for throwing a curve at you here
 
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