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[Feedback Thread] How can WE improve on the PD forum? Suggestions welcome!

PinkPanther2 said:
yah.. in the user agreement it says that bluelight will cooperate with law enforcement.
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It doesn't matter, because bluelight has no information about anyone. IP addresses only stay logged in the system for a couple days, by the time a subpoena is issued and carried out there's nothing there anymore to link your account to an actual person (unless you post that information willingly yourself).
 
Roger&Me said:
It doesn't matter, because bluelight has no information about anyone. IP addresses only stay logged in the system for a couple days, by the time a subpoena is issued and carried out there's nothing there anymore to link your account to an actual person (unless you post that information willingly yourself).
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well, that's refreshing.. but still.
 
swilow said:
^Well, ideally, there is nothing illegal taking place on the website; ie. dealing. If the police decided to seize Bluelight servers, they can.

The BLUA does stipulate that no illegal sourcing or dealing should be happening; the people who own them shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of the forum users. Its not that Admin will helpfully give the coppers a gander at everything, but if served with a warrant, they will.

Its the users' responsibilty to keep it legal.

There are police on the board, but they have rarely bothered people here. Harm reduction is for everyone, and I'd welcome LE here, if they were open-minded.

There have been raids earlier in BL history in australia, but afaik, not since...
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yeah, i wouldn't want people dealing here either.. that would seem sleazy, or at least not what the site was about. im more concerned with the level of personal information and ideas that people are sharing here becoming the property of not so nice people. i've decided that its worth the risk to speak openly and share knowledge.. but you asked for suggestions, and that's my suggestion.. as long as the law says drug users are criminals and should be jailed, i do not welcome LE.. because they are people that have chosen to live by a code that i find disgraceful, at least in the context of drugs, which is what this site is mostly about.

swilow said:
Its the users' responsibilty to keep it legal.
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right. its a big fat cya.. and ide rather it didn't exist.
 
^What personal information, though?

Bluelight only has the information you choose to post.

And the IP address you posted it from, which is automatically deleted shortly thereafter.

E-mail addresses are encrypted in the system. But you can use an e-mail that doesn't trace back to you anyways, if you're paranoid.
 
Roger&Me said:
^What personal information, though?

Bluelight only has the information you choose to post.

And the IP address you posted it from, which is automatically deleted shortly thereafter.

E-mail addresses are encrypted in the system. But you can use an e-mail that doesn't trace back to you anyways, if you're paranoid.
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drugs done.. email.. drugs currently being possessed.. maybe it doesn't really matter at all..

let me ask, do you think there's a circumstance under which LE could get a warrant and then start fucking with people here? not dealers, but just people speaking openly?
 
^I don't think so. I mean, at least in the US the government is crazy but its still not illegal to talk about stuff. And what LE agency would do that? Unless you're doing overtly illegal stuff far beyond simple possession of small quantities of drugs, no federal agency cares what you do. Do you think your city cops are watching your online activities? Highly doubtful.
 
Roger&Me said:
^I don't think so. I mean, at least in the US the government is crazy but its still not illegal to talk about stuff. And what LE agency would do that? Unless you're doing overtly illegal stuff far beyond simple possession of small quantities of drugs, no federal agency cares what you do. Do you think your city cops are watching your online activities? Highly doubtful.
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no, i dont think the city cops are watching.. and i don't think anybody would really give a shit about what i do in this context.. but it bothers me. sure, im being paranoid in one sense, but they DO put people in jail for stuff that's not even wrong, and that upsets me. i can accept im being paranoid, or overly cautious depending on how you look at it. either way, thank you for a genuine, rational response. i do feel more relaxed. <3
 
I've acknowledged extracting a schedule 1 substance with out any problem. I doubt any other member of this forum has had any issues with discussing such things in the current times, but if you are turely worried then look out for yourself. It isn't bluelight responsibility to keep you safe, but we'll, or at least I will help people out when involved in the drug culture. We all are apart of it some how, lets come together. If we can't come together as a culture how can we expect the nation (assuming most of you are in america) to come together.

<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

I just spent a few hours with a friend who is refining his spiritual uprising, and I felt a great openness to express myself, which has been ignored sadly by those who I wish would give me the chance.

Night all!
 
PinkPanther2 said:
i think that because this is a harm reduction site, you should refuse to cooperate with law enforcement if they ask for information regarding drug charges. you could maybe plead the fifth? -> you know people are using information on this site to commit crimes, safely.. don't sell out the good citizens just to save your own asses..
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Pleading the Fifth wouldn't come into it as BL isn't an American site - servers are in Holland, registered in Russia and owned by an Australian, I think. The only real risky stuff to be posting about that comes to mind is maybe discussing bulk quantities of drugs currently in your possession, responding to sourcing PMs perhaps (you really don't know who you're talking too) or mentioning specific places/events that you are attending and a list of what you'll be taking - that kinda thing has caused one or two problems in the past. Most (all?) BL fora don't allow self-incrimination and will edit it out anyway but common sense should be enough for most folks really. As far as I know there's never been a situation where servers were likely to be seized and I can't really think of one where they would be, to be honest.

I just had this brilliant idea to protect ourselves even more though - maybe we could all pretend we were not ourselves. Perhaps tie it in with some form of aquatic activity too - the healthy angle would totally throw them off the track. It would be utterly unobtrusive and also completely foolproof, I suspect. And so does my llama's aunt's cousin's gopher. Who is also not me.
 
^ I wouldn't be surprised if that natant activity promotes schizophrenia...

Messes up a lot of correlation if you think about it. :D
 
I think holding a raffle would be a good idea - but I think I suggested it before & wasn't taken seriously.


You know get people to make donations of unusual things & then raffle them - give some money to bluelight & PD mods pocket the rest - win win win.


For those who profess difficulty in deciphering my posts - this one is 63% facetiousness
 
You posted over an hour after I did so obviously the parameters have shifted significantly ( in a statistical sense you understand) howe could they not ? By tomorrow it'll either be the best ever most genuinely heartfelt post I've ever made or will be flung thoughtlessly into the dustbin of bullshit.


Imagine raffling say ALD52 - I'd buy a ticket anything to support a racket is my philosophy
 
B9, I greatly enjoy reading your post's, even if I sometimes can't tell when you are serious...

You guys rule, we should find an island somewhere and all move there ! =D
 
tBirdee said:
B9, I greatly enjoy reading your post's, even if I sometimes can't tell when you are serious...
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^ Yeah I often hold a position which is in opposition to itself - there's generally more than one " truth" or perspective to many things & unfortunately I find I seem to see more than one point in most points :)
I also enjoy reading my own posts as well ( occassionally I cringe when reading them) especially the ones where I denounce egotistical behaviours ;)

Anyway it's kind of you to say so I appreciate it - thanks :) <3


I think he sometimes isn't not.
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Yeah not infrequently - I don't generally set out to baffle people on purpose - my bafflement at the cosmos & all that it contains shines through like an eccentric lighthouse.
 
Well I don't mind contributing to ethnobotanical discussions, but I am a druggy and I like my recreational drugs. Also a lack of jobs in the field in my area and family commitments meaning we can't move away means I don't work in ethnobotanical research any more at the moment, but I still like to keep up with the subject in my "spare" time. I do hope some ethnobotanical discussion broadens our horizons a bit on bluelight but I also hope that it won't swamp out the more general drugs information which is a very useful resource and we don't need to make it harder to use.
 
psood0nym said:
But merging too soon does tend to stifle discussion and, in effect, cuts off any other information that discussion might have otherwise wrought.

For example, recently the thread "CandyFlipping at Six Flags (+Salvia Maybe)" received 17 replies in about 24 hours, then was merged into the 'Tripping in a theme park' thread on 2-2-2010. As of 2-5-2010, no new posts have been made. I've no doubt that if someone actually did an analysis of average posts per hour during each day pre and post merger for a number of other merged threads this example would show itself to be part of a larger trend. Maybe for merger candidate threads some post rate criteria could be adopted whereby a thread doesn't get merged until it falls below something like 2 posts in a 24 hour period?
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^ This

Peace, Ethnobot
 
do you really still see this as a problem?

its definatley not been happening as much since the suggestion has been made.

unless its a topic thats been done to death, we let the individual thread stay its own entity till it drops out of site for a week or more, only then does it either gets merged or just drop out of site.
 
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